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[GRscorpion]

i think that irish or scotish accent is more close to elven language cause elves by "nature" are more melodic . . . for humans we have to destinquish them at nobles and commoners giving a british accent to noble ones . . for the formality... and something like american to the general human population and especially some "texan" to some cases...For Dwarves i imagine them to sound like something from central european countrys' like germany and the like's for that more "hard" accent...



PS. those are strictly personal opinions and i dont in any way try to offend any1.

[FlintlockJazz]

I take a few minutes off to do some 'work' and I come back to find some big debate going on? I make that, tea o'clock! *cracks out the teabags*

[Darth Obvious]

Jonny_Evil wrote...

Just look at the thread:

"I think dwarves should have scottish accents"

"The humans have british accents"

It's not just a word, you're ignoring the existence of my nationality as much as if I called all Americans Canadian, and you are utterly missing every point I've made. "The British are coming" is fair enough, as there would have been Welsh, Irish and Scottish troops alongside the English ones. A "British" accent is bloody annoying because Welsh, Scottish and Irish accents are recognised but an English accent is "British". Then you tell me that it's called a British accent instead of an English accent because Americans speak english and therefore somehow can't cope with an accent going by the same name even though everyone else in the english speaking world manages okay?

You keep missing the entire point.

It is simply a descriptive term within our culture to describe the Queen's English accent, since we would never say "English" accent.

You would never say 'elevator'. You'd say 'lift'. It's the same damn thing. Just a word to describe something, and in different places people use different words. Not that big of a deal....

And it has nothing to do with nationality. If I say "British accent" to anyone I know in America, they would know exactly what I was talking about. Sure, the term is not as precise as it could be, but sometimes that's just how language is.

Likewise, if I asked every friend I have about Bastila Shan's accent from KoTOR, every single one of them (including my Italian and Spanish friends) would say she has a British accent. What kind of British accent? Well, we don't live there so we don't know, nor do we really care. It's just a descriptive term that we all understand, that's all.

Get. Over. It.

[Jonny_Evil]

Obtusifolius wrote...

However, it would be silly to be offended at someone's description of any British accent as 'British'.

I don't mind that in the slightest, it is *a* British accent as much as it is *a* European accent. It being the only accent described as British when all the others are dignified with their own names is what gets me, from a slightly larger viewpoint that would probably be easier to understand it would look like this:

Fereldan has an English accent.
Antiva has a Spanish(ish) accent.
Elves have an American accent.
Orlais has a European accent.

[FlintlockJazz]

Obtusifolius wrote...

FlintlockJazz wrote...

I take a few minutes off to do some 'work' and I come back to find some big debate going on? I make that, tea o'clock! *cracks out the teabags*

Balls, I just finished mine <_<

Well I have to head off now so have one for me!

[Vizkos]

The way I see it, the empire reference in Star Wars, and the people of Ferelden speaking with a british like accent can easily be explained. I can see the nobility of Ferelden, and members of the empire (armed forces and what not) speak what I kind of classify as real english. That means they want to speak to be clearly understood, no slurring or merging of words, unlike what is often the case in the US, where words are merged and slurred to speak quickly, etc etc.

[bjdbwea]

English, Scottish, Irish... isn't supposed to matter anymore, didn't you know? You're all citizens of the EU now. <_<

Modifié par bjdbwea, 12 janvier 2010 - 05:10 .

[Jonny_Evil]

Darth Obvious wrote...

Likewise, if I asked every friend I have about Bastila Shan's accent from KoTOR, every single one of them (including my Italian and Spanish friends) would say she has a British accent. What kind of British accent? Well, we don't live there so we don't know, nor do we really care. It's just a descriptive term that we all understand, that's all.

Get. Over. It.

But you know that dwarves stereotypically have a Scottish accent and the Lucky Charm's leprechaun has a stereotypical Irish accent, so you do know what they bloody well are. When the hell was the last time you watched Braveheart and thought "Ah, what a wonderful British accent Mel Gibson is displaying."?

Ah screw it. Saying that it's right because most of your country doesn't know any better is a ridiculous position, but it's one you're obviously not going to budge from.

[Chaos-fusion]

They should have made all the elves scouse.

[spark420]

I think it is pretty jakked up everyone wants to put a race to the characters people need to get over trying to always seperate people. the elves were clearly meant to be like native americans their homelands being took away and living close to the earth and the bows and the respect for animals. but  I digress this is bull to even try to do I think this thread should be shut down it seemed like It was an excuse for racism ir not then Ignorance.

please mod close this disscussion since racism shouldn't be allowed to ruin dragon age.

[Eleinehmm]

bjdbwea wrote...

English, Scottish, Irish... isn't supposed to matter anymore, didn't you know? You're all citizens of the EU now. <_<

And EU miraculously makes people lose their accents? What a wonderful discovery you have made here! I should probably join (I hope they accept people-states) and get a brand new RP English. :innocent:

Modifié par Eleinehmm, 12 janvier 2010 - 05:27 .

[Jonny_Evil]

spark420 wrote...

I think it is pretty jakked up everyone wants to put a race to the characters people need to get over trying to always seperate people. the elves were clearly meant to be like native americans their homelands being took away and living close to the earth and the bows and the respect for animals. but  I digress this is bull to even try to do I think this thread should be shut down it seemed like It was an excuse for racism ir not then Ignorance.

please mod close this disscussion since racism shouldn't be allowed to ruin dragon age.

Yeah, there's pretty much no racism going on. Me and Darth Obvious are rowing a bit over semantics, but neither of us is insulting each other's country.

Finally addressing the original point of the thread though, I think it's pretty obvious why Fereldans have English accents. Fereldan is very similar to Saxon era England, particularly if we'd managed to throw out the Normans like the Fereldans did the Orlesians, so the English accent fits the setting better than most others would.

Although to make it properly authenticy they should have had one of the scandinavian accents, as saxon-era English was far closer to them than to modern English.

[spark420]

you don't see a thread about naming what fantasy races are like real life races as racist? it is seperating people and will only bring ignorant comments and from the looks of it people are and have been offended and I am one of them. I play games to escape from the real world and I don't want to see my fav game tarnished by comments about real life race debates.

Modifié par spark420, 12 janvier 2010 - 05:28 .

[Cross1280]

Zev's accent reminds me of the accent Antonio bandaris used in the movie 13th Warrior. the first time i heard Zev speak I had to cheak the credits because i thought it was him.

[Eleinehmm]

Obtusifolius wrote...

Eleinehmm wrote...


And EU miraculously makes people lose their accents? What a wonderful discovery you have made here! I should probably join (I hope they accept people-states) and get a brand new RP English.

I think that was meant as sarcasm there

I certainly hope so –  This is  TEH  Internets,  after all 

[darkshadow136]

Well I know this thread was just to get a rise out of people. In dragon age the elves lost their war to the humans. In the revolutionary war the Americans drove out the English. Draw you own conclusions on that note.



Other than that the parallel you drew here is so wrong. If anything the war with the elves for represents the knights templer crusades in the holy land under the leadership of the Pope or revered mother so to speak. Since the elves would not worship and bow to the chantry and the maker and stop worshiping their own gods. The humans took their land and raped and killed many of them. That would have been a much better comparison.



English and Americans from the beginning were the same people not a different race. One just wanted their Independence from the crown and one was loyal to the crown. So know you history a bit before drawing comparisons like that. Anyway England and America are friends now as far as I know.

[soteria]

Don't forget, there's like 4 or 5 different Irish accents as well. I know a few Dubliners who can't even understand someone from Cork. Munster is distinct as well.



On a side note, I think Americans more than Brits tend to lump accents together because we don't get exposed to so many different ones. You can drive all day in the US and still hear everyone speaking with essentially the same generic US accent. In the UK and Ireland the accents are much more diverse in a smaller area.



Darth Obvious, please don't speak for all of us. I call it an English accent.

[mousestalker]

I think its great that the best characters in the game all speak with the same wonderful accent! The other characters have to content themselves with less appealing accents.