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[bjdbwea]

That's a bit harsh. I'm not British, but your nation has brought much good to the world too. Even the so-called Imperialism wasn't just all bad. You shouldn't believe everything the schools teach today.

[Darth Obvious]

Jonny_Evil wrote...

I'm not offended, I just pointed out that I find that particular terminology irritating and asked you not to use it here. As I'm an English person, referring to what my own country's accent is called, it would only have been polite to acquiesce. 

I'll pass that on to my 300 million fellow Americans, when I have the time. Re-writing over 200 years of our history might be tougher, though, especially with Mass Effect 2 coming out, as I'm going to be very busy. 

Seriously though, I'm not going to pretend that I could ever think of it as an "English" accent. You speak English, and I speak English, so for you to insist that your accent is English while mine is not... well, it sounds crazy. In other words, in the context of our language and culture, it is never going to happen.

I would suggest you just learn to deal with it. The world thinks of your accent as a "British" accent, and considering your country's history, I'm not sure you get to choose how the rest of the world refers to you.

Sorry, pal.

[Jonny_Evil]

Darth Obvious wrote...

I would suggest you just learn to deal with it. The world thinks of your accent as a "British" accent, and considering your country's history, I'm not sure you get to choose how the rest of the world refers to you.

Sorry, pal.

Not a problem, my Yankee friend. I'll see you at the revolution.

[Jonny_Evil]

bjdbwea wrote...

That's a bit harsh. I'm not British, but your nation has brought much good to the world too. Even the so-called Imperialism wasn't just all bad. You shouldn't believe everything the schools teach today.

Eh, I'm just blowing off some steam. Over the years I've heard us be blamed for slavery, genocide, ethnic cleansing and just about anything you can think of, all perpetrated by the upper classes who engineered the act of union and created Britain and all with no benefit to the ordinary englishman.  Instead you get the sense that we're expected to be ashamed of who we are, to lose ourselves in being British and pretend we're not English while the other British countries celebrate their own culture. The "British accent" thing just pricked me at the wrong time is all, with the weather I've been stuck in the house for over a week and it's making me stircrazy, living in the hills sucks sometimes.

[Firerax]

Interesting point. Haven't noticed that yet. I think Humans should sound British or American though, Dwarves should sound Scottish, and Elves should sound Spanish. Not perfectly ofcourse. Just my opinion.

[Bann Duncan]

Darth Obvious wrote...

Bann Duncan wrote...

Stop getting so offended over a perfectly reasonable criticism of your strange terminology.

Uh, you need to re-read the thread, I think, because it was actually some other guy getting offended by the widespread usage of a particular terminology.

But we all appreciate your faux concern. I've been enjoying this thread thoroughly, thanks.

Additionally, you do know that Paul Revere never actually said that, right?

...and Washington never chopped down the cherry tree, etc...

The saying "The British are coming!" is legendary, meaning that it will last forever in the form of a legend, accurate or not.

Did Caesar really say "Et tu Brute?" ("Even you, Brutus?") while he was getting gutted?

Does it matter?

Nope.

elys wrote...

From a french point of view, I also call British Accent what I associate to England.

Indeed.

Darth Obvious, my problem with the usage is not that you're using the word British to refer to something English (given that Britain was formed of the Union between the Kingdoms of Scotland and England) but to what it often leads to with some people. I remember in school (I grew up in the US, though now reside in the UK) that people would use 'the British' as a term even when it did not reply (like while studying early colonialism in the Americas, which happened seperately by England and Scotland - not as one unit as they were seperate political entities. For example, Maryland was founded by the Scots and Virginia by the English.)

Additionally, I do not have a problem with the Union as the other UK poster in the thread does as it is becoming increasingly apparent that the only alternative to assertation of British identity is the frightening trend of Europeanisation.

[Cavegeta]

This is still going on? As I said earlier, the term Britain has confused me and probably a lot of my fellow Americans for years. I always kinda thought that it was a general term referring to a Wales, England, Scotland, Ireland, and Northern Ireland. But as far as accents went "British" was something that we probably saw on Monty Python.



I do have a question for anyone living in the British Isles, though. What specific accent does Loghain (Simon Templeman) have? I think his is the only one I've heard like it. Oh and also...why do you refer to us as yanks?

[thegreateski]

I want to know what an American accent sounds like (American). Of course that's impossible isn't it?

As for why people refer to us as "Yanks" . . .
To foreigners, a Yankee is an American.
To Americans, a Yankee is a Northerner.
To Northerners, a Yankee is an Easterner.
To Easterners, a Yankee is a New Englander.
To New Englanders, a Yankee is a Vermonter.
And in Vermont, a Yankee is somebody who eats pie for breakfast.

Modifié par thegreateski, 14 janvier 2010 - 06:38 .

[Kiwiya]

Well, this thread has gotten a little off topic, hasn't it?



Personally, I just thought the the elves and dwarves had *really* refreshing accents. I'm a little sick and tired of all elves being elegant and tall and English, and all dwarves being little Scottish bundles of comedy releif. Comparing Bioware's dwarves to, say, Blizzard's... yeesh, Blizzard's. Not giving the races their stereotypical accents in DA:O let me take them more as characters with depth, rather "oh, an elf and a dwarf."

[elys]

Leliana has the best frenglish accent. More orlaisian characters are needed !

[twintalons]

I thought it was a little weird that elves and dwarves both had obvious American accents, but I suppose if i WAS American they would sound more 'neutral' to me.

I assumed Antivans would have Spanish accents, going by Zevran, but the guy from Antiva in Denerim who gives you the Crows quest (geeee I have forgotten his name) seems to have an Italian accent and his friend Caesar starts off speaking with a kind of Spanish accent, passes through Italian, then ends up sort of Eastern European!

Also weird is that Duncan, who grew up in Orlais (?) seems to have a 'Ferelden' accent, and Riordon who grew up in Ferelden (?) has a sort of 'Orlesian' accent, although I do hear that it is a hybrid type of accent as if he's been in different places in his youth.

[Valmy]

elys wrote...

Leliana has the best frenglish accent. More orlaisian characters are needed !

I look forward to being one in the expansion.  Vive les Grey Wardens.

[elys]

Obtusifolius wrote...

You may say that, but everyone else from Orlais (Marjolaine, that woman selling crap in Denerim, Arlessa Isolde, etc.) has a ****ing dreadful accent. So no more Orlesians for me, thanks, unless they are voiced by Lel-woman

Everyone knows that all the exquisite women of Orlais speaks with a charmful frenglish accent

[Valmy]

Obtusifolius wrote...

elys wrote...

Leliana has the best frenglish accent. More orlaisian characters are needed !

You may say that, but everyone else from Orlais (Marjolaine, that woman selling crap in Denerim, Arlessa Isolde, etc.) has a ****ing dreadful accent. So no more Orlesians for me, thanks, unless they are voiced by Lel-woman

Some of them are better than others.  The Elf servant of Anora definitely won the prize for most over the top French accent.

[kentlilliputian]

I noticed this too. Its a common formula in fantasy games/ films... British accents denote (With a few rare exeptions): Evil, arrogant imperialists (Because, aparrently, thats what we still are), and North American accents denote: The fiesty, rugged, good hearted rebels. Just watch Empire Strikes Back, or play Final Fantasy 12, and you'll see what I mean.

A little irritating to always see that portrayal in popular culture but as a Brit, I'm used to it by now

And its shaping up to be a great game (I just got it today and am still brushing up on the battle system).

Modifié par kentlilliputian, 07 mars 2010 - 01:06 .