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[amethyst_rose2009]

- Songlian - wrote...

amethyst_rose2009 wrote...
  After reading the books, I absolutely fell in love with Maric.

Same here.  He is a delightfully refreshing character. 

As for his return... I wouldn't bet on it, but it would certainly make my day. I wonder what he'd have to say about the current situation in Ferelden and the way things have evolved, including the battle at Ostagar. 

Just think if Maric could come back before the whole landsmeet thing in a later dlc, what do you think he would do to his best friend when he found out Loghain was responsible for Cailan's death?  Do you think he would be able to forgive him?

[tallon1982]

I'm sure he'll be uber cute/hot. I mean if they can make Teagan a hottie why not Maric? lol



I thought at one point that maybe Loghain did Maric in and just said he went on a very long fishing trip lol but I don't think that happened. I just was hoping for a better ending for Maric if he is infact dead. Maybe a way to see him in the Fade talking to you or Alistair.



That's one thing I wished in gameplay...That you could play one of the others to see a different fade dream for yourself. I mean the warden's home? Really? I was thinking mom and dad being alive. Oren stick fighting with Fergus while Oriana shakes her head. If anything Alistair should have been slapped with Duncan being alive.

[SarEnyaDor]

There is no way he would forgive Loghain for letting Cailan die. None at all.

[amethyst_rose2009]

tallon1982 wrote...

I'm sure he'll be uber cute/hot. I mean if they can make Teagan a hottie why not Maric? lol

I thought at one point that maybe Loghain did Maric in and just said he went on a very long fishing trip lol but I don't think that happened. I just was hoping for a better ending for Maric if he is infact dead. Maybe a way to see him in the Fade talking to you or Alistair.

That's one thing I wished in gameplay...That you could play one of the others to see a different fade dream for yourself. I mean the warden's home? Really? I was thinking mom and dad being alive. Oren stick fighting with Fergus while Oriana shakes her head. If anything Alistair should have been slapped with Duncan being alive.

I agree. Alistair should have had the Duncan dream not the pc.  We had not had the time to get to know Duncan that well before he died.  And Duncan would have been sooooooo much better than 'plain Jane' Goldanna.

[tallon1982]

Goldanna...I wanted to smack her and I'm a female. Smack her like the Count on Sesame Street. One...two smacks...Now gimme my money...

[amethyst_rose2009]

tallon1982 wrote...

Goldanna...I wanted to smack her and I'm a female. Smack her like the Count on Sesame Street. One...two smacks...Now gimme my money...

I know, on my first playthrough (before learning that you get a better ending with a hardened Alistair) I tried being nice to that bi*ch and even gave her money and she was still a bi*ch.  I wanted to be compassionate because she had all those dang kids running around, but geez.

[_- Songlian -]

amethyst_rose2009 wrote...

- Songlian - wrote...

amethyst_rose2009 wrote...
  After reading the books, I absolutely fell in love with Maric.

Same here.  He is a delightfully refreshing character. 

As for his return... I wouldn't bet on it, but it would certainly make my day. I wonder what he'd have to say about the current situation in Ferelden and the way things have evolved, including the battle at Ostagar. 

Just think if Maric could come back before the whole landsmeet thing in a later dlc, what do you think he would do to his best friend when he found out Loghain was responsible for Cailan's death?  Do you think he would be able to forgive him?

I'd certainly hope he would severe Loghain's head in 100 different ways, than glue it back together and start all over again. Or call him back from the dead, if that's the case, and do the above mentioned ritual. But that doesn't mean he'd actually act like that. Forgiving Loghain for leaving Cailan to die, that's pretty much out of the question. More than that, I'm not sure. I think only Mr. Gaider can have a valid opinion on that.  

[amethyst_rose2009]

- Songlian - wrote...



I'd certainly hope he would severe Loghain's head in 100 different ways, than glue it back together and start all over again. Or call him back from the dead, if that's the case, and do the above mentioned ritual.   

I would buy the dlc just to see that scene.

[tallon1982]

amethyst_rose2009 wrote...

tallon1982 wrote...

Goldanna...I wanted to smack her and I'm a female. Smack her like the Count on Sesame Street. One...two smacks...Now gimme my money...

I know, on my first playthrough (before learning that you get a better ending with a hardened Alistair) I tried being nice to that bi*ch and even gave her money and she was still a bi*ch.  I wanted to be compassionate because she had all those dang kids running around, but geez.

That's why I went back into her house later with Alistair in the party and picked her pocket

[bobsmyuncle]

I kinda hope he doesn't, though I'm convinced he's still alive. No body = doesn't count.

[pudi0072000]

I thought Flemeth told Maric he wouldn't be alive to see the blight? Has she been wrong before? 

[tallon1982]

I think she does say that. I wish I could have see a Fade nightmare with him in it. Could you imagine Alistair and him talking?

[_Dejanus]

On a related note,anyone wish to comment on Fiona returning for Awakening? Shes still alive, free of the taint, and is in charge of Architect-related Grey Wardening last I checked.



Also, if she really is Alistair's true mother awkward hilarity will ensue.

[tallon1982]

I would love to see Fiona if that's possible.

[Ulicus]

Fiona cropping up would be sweet.

Fade-Spirit Maric... Obviously not the looker he used to be, then?

Colenda wrote...

Ah, I wish that plan for the game had been continued. Though I wonder how on earth they'd have worked the plot to introduce Loghain early to the party. Were they simply going to make him the alternative to Arl Eamon and Alistair? Go to Denerim, recruit and be recruited by him? But in that case, he'd be pretty unbearable to travel with. No one wants to go adventuring with their boss.

...

I suppose the devs might have thought of making the timing of the
Landsmeet more flexible - you wouldn't have had to get all the treaties
before going to Denerim with Eamon.

I think you've hit it on the head with the last bit, there. I've heard that Denerim was originally supposed to be locked until you healed Arl Eamon (presumably Genitivi was in another location), which is why you can stumble across references to the landsmeet before it has even been called.

So, yeah, I imagine you could originally do the entire Landsmeet plot - complete with Loghain recruitment - before you finished the other treaty quests. Of course, without Loghain's, uh, "foreign policy" being in place to keep Orlais and the other Grey Wardens out, the story wouldn't work quite so well. Which is maybe why it was dropped.

Modifié par Ulicus, 12 janvier 2010 - 12:41 .

[Kohaku]

What's best about them keeping those assets in means the Community can expand upon them.

[steelfire_dragon]

SarEnyaDor wrote...

There is no way he would forgive Loghain for letting Cailan die. None at all.

whether or not you can forgive him or not......
understanding what he did, and why he did it can go along way...
cailan was unfit to rule.
Loghain  knew what he was doing, Cailan did not.
Ostagar was a death thrap.....
failing to listen to his general strategist doomed him to his death, and the death of those who stayed behind....


as far as Marik is concerned, There can be only one.....

[ashez2ashes]

I wouldn't be surprised if Maric was out there somewhere on an island or something with amnesia.

[SarEnyaDor]

steelfire_dragon wrote...

SarEnyaDor wrote...

There is no way he would forgive Loghain for letting Cailan die. None at all.

whether or not you can forgive him or not......
understanding what he did, and why he did it can go along way...
cailan was unfit to rule.
Loghain  knew what he was doing, Cailan did not.
Ostagar was a death thrap.....
failing to listen to his general strategist doomed him to his death, and the death of those who stayed behind....


as far as Marik is concerned, There can be only one.....

LOL this isn't the defense of Loghain thread. I seriously doubt Maric would have seen anything Loghain did as necessary at all - Maric wasn't paranoid and obsessed with Orlais and he didn't think the Grey Wardens were tools of Orlais and he did believe in the threat the darkspawn posed and he KNEW a Blight was coming.

If nothing else he wouldn't forgive Loghain because that was Rowan's son, and she loved being a mother more than anything else and Loghain, who suppossed "really" loved Rowan let her son die despite having rescued Maric from worse situations, and having had Rowan rescue Loghain from worse ones.

Loghain would not be forgiven by Maric who cut off the heads of the nobles who betrayed his mother Moira even though he needed their troops, Maric who killed Katriel for her betrayal of the men of West Hill....

And all of that is forgetting that Maric was Cailan's father to boot. Sheesh.

Modifié par SarEnyaDor, 12 janvier 2010 - 01:23 .

[steelfire_dragon]

nor is it the defense of Cailan thread either.....

cailan = massive epic fail

[SarEnyaDor]

I'm not defending Cailan at all, I'm saying Maric, father of Cailan would not forgive Loghain for allowing his son to die.



No parent would forgive that. If your best friend's child was drowning because he went swimming after eating and got a cramp even though you told him it was really unwise, and you didn't dive and at least attempt to help him you think your friend will see you anything less than the murderer of their child?



Seriously, it is laughable.

[packardbell]

SarEnyaDor wrote...

I'm not defending Cailan at all, I'm saying Maric, father of Cailan would not forgive Loghain for allowing his son to die.

No parent would forgive that. If your best friend's child was drowning because he went swimming after eating and got a cramp even though you told him it was really unwise, and you didn't dive and at least attempt to help him you think your friend will see you anything less than the murderer of their child?

Seriously, it is laughable.

He'll be very torn, his best friend and top advisor leaves his son to die out of tactical necessity whom Maric probably loved more than in the world.

[SarEnyaDor]

Did you read the books? I wouldn't exactly say that Loghain and Maric were close or seeing eye to eye anymore.....