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Hackett: Worst admiral ever.


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Let's take a look at his tactics, shall we?

- Tries to attack an obviously surperior opponent head on with no strategy whatsoever.

- Instead of trying to find a way to defeat the Reapers, he chooses to throw his soldiers at the Reapers, a near certain death, to stall for a machine that no one knows how to operate.

- His grand plan in the end: Send ground forces running straight toward a Reaper and then retreat.

- Couldn't figure out a way to defeat the Luna V.I himself.

- Couldn't figure out a way to defeat simple terrorists himself.

- Sometimes he couldn't even figure out the existence of these terrorists. One of his soldiers had to hack into computers or accept information from criminals to figure it out.


...Somebody bribed his way into a job.

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For the longest time I had to assume Hackett was indoctrinated to explain his ludicrous behavior...

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- When does it ever say he attacks the Reapers without a stratagy?

- What do you think the Crucible is? And the Reapers are on the offensive, not the defensive. He has no choice. What exactly do you suggest he do?

- That wasn't his plan. There's nothing suggesting he had anything to do with that.

- He sent Shepard, and it worked. Did you expect an admiral to personally do the fighting?

- He sent Shepard, and it worked. Did you expect an admiral to personally do the fighting?

Modifié par David7204, 28 février 2013 - 05:23 .


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I think the rushing to the beam was actually Anderson's call. Not 100% sure of this though.

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You forgot his part in Arrival. He says it's incredibly important that Shepard saves Kenson alone rather than bring his team. If Shepard doesn't do it, however, he sends a platoon.

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Indy_S wrote...

You forgot his part in Arrival. He says it's incredibly important that Shepard saves Kenson alone rather than bring his team. If Shepard doesn't do it, however, he sends a platoon.


and they die

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We honestly do not see any tactical info in Mass Effect to make any assertions like that. We have to give him a crap ton of credit for somehow getting the Crucible built without one single indoctrinated agent sending the location back to the Reapers and dooming us all.....which should have happened if you choose to save the Cloned Rachni Queen.....

Shep takes care of crap like the Luna VI because he is Spec Ops for the Alliance. What's Hackett gonna do, raze the Moon with this Dreadnought or, I don't know, send in his best Spec Ops agent???

Modifié par TheCrazyHobo, 28 février 2013 - 05:29 .


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And Kenson dies either way. So either way, it doesn't go to plan. So his concern is pretty justified.

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David7204 wrote...

- When does it ever say he attacks the Reapers without a stratagy?

- What do you think the Crucible is? And the Reapers are on the offensive, not the defensive. He has no choice. What exactly do you suggest he do?

- That wasn't his plan. There's nothing suggesting he had anything to do with that.

- He sent Shepard, and it worked. Did you expect an admiral to personally do the fighting?

- He sent Shepard, and it worked. Did you expect an admiral to personally do the fighting?


The cutscene of Sword's battle against the Reapers pretty much shows his strategy. Don't try to surprise them, don't try to outwit them, just fly straight towards them and hope that their weapons suddenly become effective.

They had no idea that the Crucible would work. Hackett's plan if it didn't work? Give up, I guess.

I was mistaken. It was Anderson.

He knew the situations perfectly well and couldn't give his initial squads a sufficent amount of information to stop them from getting killed. Then again the Alliance soldiers probably aren't trained too well, considering how easy those missions were for a 3 man group.

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It's not Hackett's fault... You've heard of cutscene incompetence, right? Shepard, as controlled by you, guns down a hundred cerberus soldiers. Shepard, as seen in a cutscene, is forced to retreat from three of them.

Well, Hackett's ALL cutscenes. We're lucky he's managed to get his pants on right.

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David7204 wrote...

And Kenson dies either way. So either way, it doesn't go to plan. So his concern is pretty justified.


But his emphasis on stealth was unwarranted. He goes against his own plan without any knowledge of a change in circumstance.

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Brhino wrote...
It's not Hackett's fault... You've heard of cutscene incompetence, right? Shepard, as controlled by you, guns down a hundred cerberus soldiers. Shepard, as seen in a cutscene, is forced to retreat from three of them.

Well, Hackett's ALL cutscenes. We're lucky he's managed to get his pants on right.


The writers could make Garry Kasparov look like a ****ing moron, all for the sake of drama and cinematics.

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Indy_S wrote...

You forgot his part in Arrival. He says it's incredibly important that Shepard saves Kenson alone rather than bring his team. If Shepard doesn't do it, however, he sends a platoon.

I lol'd.

To be fair, he was hoping that super Shep could handle it alone and if possible, discretly. Shep also wasn't in the Alliance anymore, in case where things turn bad. And he didn't count with blowing the Alpha Relay up, since he didn't have a clue (that's a habit)) about what Kenson actually found there or its implications. It was at first a risky rescue mission, then things simply went out of proportions.

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 28 février 2013 - 05:35 .


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The Mad Hanar wrote...

David7204 wrote...

- When does it ever say he attacks the Reapers without a stratagy?

- What do you think the Crucible is? And the Reapers are on the offensive, not the defensive. He has no choice. What exactly do you suggest he do?

- That wasn't his plan. There's nothing suggesting he had anything to do with that.

- He sent Shepard, and it worked. Did you expect an admiral to personally do the fighting?

- He sent Shepard, and it worked. Did you expect an admiral to personally do the fighting?


The cutscene of Sword's battle against the Reapers pretty much shows his strategy. Don't try to surprise them, don't try to outwit them, just fly straight towards them and hope that their weapons suddenly become effective.

They had no idea that the Crucible would work. Hackett's plan if it didn't work? Give up, I guess.

I was mistaken. It was Anderson.

He knew the situations perfectly well and couldn't give his initial squads a sufficent amount of information to stop them from getting killed. Then again the Alliance soldiers probably aren't trained too well, considering how easy those missions were for a 3 man group.


- The Reapers have more powerful weapons, longer range, better sensors. They're faster and and more durable. You're not going to think any large-scale tactic that the Reapers couldn't simply copy, if not counter with something better.

- If you have any genius plans of how to defeat the Reapers, I'm all ears.

Modifié par David7204, 28 février 2013 - 05:36 .


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How would you have approached the Reaper fleet?

a). They outrange you.
B). They're faster than you.
c). They outgun you.

So, how do you deal with an enemy which has three major advantages over you?
You zerg rush them with superior numbers and hope your sheer numbers will overwhelm them or at least give you enough time for your plan to work.
Remember how the Turian admiral at Palaven bloodied the Reapers noses? He FTL'd right into the middle of their fleet and managed to take down a few capital ships before retreating. You don't get into a gunfight with the Reapers, you run up and punch them in the face.

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David7204 wrote...

- If you have any genius plans of how to defeat the Reapers, I'm all ears.


Well, I suppose that's why I'm not an admiral, eh?

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Indy_S wrote...

You forgot his part in Arrival. He says it's incredibly important that Shepard saves Kenson alone rather than bring his team. If Shepard doesn't do it, however, he sends a platoon.


This is why I think he may be a Reaper plant...why did Shepard have to go alone? Object Rho would have been beatable had my squadmates been there. Although see, they never would have been able to capture Shepard and do whatever they did to him for those two days had your squad been with you.So again, why did Hackett order Shepard to go alone instead of with his team, hmmmm?

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He intended to feed his fish without an automatic fish feeding VI.

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i like Hackett. he seems legit to me.

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It doesn't help that making 'realistic' (for lack of a better word) ship-to-ship combat scenes is incredibly difficult for several reasons that are independent of the writers and artists' skill.

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ahnariprellik wrote...

Indy_S wrote...

You forgot his part in Arrival. He says it's incredibly important that Shepard saves Kenson alone rather than bring his team. If Shepard doesn't do it, however, he sends a platoon.


This is why I think he may be a Reaper plant...why did Shepard have to go alone? Object Rho would have been beatable had my squadmates been there. Although see, they never would have been able to capture Shepard and do whatever they did to him for those two days had your squad been with you.So again, why did Hackett order Shepard to go alone instead of with his team, hmmmm?


This is why you think he may HAVE been a Reaper plant?
This was before ME3 right? I highly doubt an indoctrinated agent would become de facto head of the Alliance and the Crucible.

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He took Shepard's words to heart. "This isn't about strategy or tactics."

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LordRaptor wrote...

For the longest time I had to assume Hackett was indoctrinated to explain his ludicrous behavior...


During the intro to ME3, when Luna goes silent and Anderson comments, "Why haven't we heard from Admiral Hackett?", I actually thought maybe Hackett was indoctrinated as well. Would've made an interesting plot twist. Alas, it was not so.

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Hackett is the man. Sorry but he's Awesome.

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Modifié par Seifer006, 28 février 2013 - 05:53 .