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[Slappy Ya Face]

Assuming you've got the EC installed, if you choose destroy and had a high enough EMS score, your LI won't stick that plaque with "Commander Shepard" written on it up on the memorial wall in the normandy. Then they smile and seem happy or something and the normandy flies away like usual. 

I really don't get this scene. Obviously the point they're trying to get across is that shaprd didn't die, but how does my crew know? My first answer to that question was "They have coms, so somebody told them" but if that's the case, then why even get that plaque out in the first place? Somebody tell me they've figured out this scene, please. 

Edit:
I'd like to put this up top, since it was the best guess I've seen here. It comes courtesey of nrobbiec.

It seems likely that they recieve word of shepard's survival, possibly from shepard her/himself just as they're about to put the plaque up. This accounts for the other endings, considering that they may have assumed the omni-present explosion killed him/her. Keep in mind that there is no audio in this scene besides the music, and the camera doesn't cut back to the rest of your crew after your LI looks suddenly hopeful. 

There's a good bit of evidence for it, and nothing that contradicts it, but take it with a grain of salt. Either way, I've yet to hear a better explanation. 

Modifié par Slappy Ya Face, 28 février 2013 - 09:03 .

[ibench1000lbs]

I'd like to hear others responses to this as well. You and I seem to feel the same about this scene.

[Drewton]

The whole scene doesn't make sense. How do they know that Anderson and Shepard are dead at all?

[Indy_S]

It means they have the resources and time required to manufacture the plaque but haven't received word that Shepard is alive. The LI has doubts that he is dead. Anything more is reading too much into it.

[2leggywillow]

 I interpreted it to mean that they didn't know for certain but they just had a ~*feeling*~ that Shepard wasn't dead.  They weren't ready to give up on hope on her, anyway, so they weren't going to put up that memorial plaque just yet.

[kalasaurus]

I guess Shepard's LI is in denial, but later decides to hold onto that hope for high EMS destroy because Shep has a higher chance of survival in what they've heard over the radio. Either that or they have some kind of spiritual connection and can "sense" that Shep's alive. I'm guessing in both cases Shepard's assumed dead and not discovered yet.

[Slappy Ya Face]

So... Obviously they've spoken with somebody on the citadel, who was like "Sorry mate, Adnerson died, but we can't find Shepard." Then again, if shepard was vaporized, they wouldn't have find his body anyway. NONE OF THIS MAKES SENSE.

Modifié par Slappy Ya Face, 28 février 2013 - 05:50 .

[UrgentArchengel]

Considering my LI, Liara, has a mental connection to Shep. She can feel him. It's like a love that crosses time, and space.

[Michotic]

I just saw it as a little bonus scene further alluding to the fact that Shepard isn't dead. You see that kind of thing in movies too. A person 'just knows' that someone isn't dead.

[chemiclord]

It's a cheap "emotional" scene that represents the "hope" and "connection" Shepard has with his/her "true love" and that "deep down" the love interest "knows" that his/her "true love" is only MOSTLY dead, not DEAD dead.

To which I respond *BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARF!*

[Slappy Ya Face]

UrgentArchengel wrote...

Considering my LI, Liara, has a mental connection to Shep. She can feel him. It's like a love that crosses time, and space.

How romantic.

[Slappy Ya Face]

chemiclord wrote...

It's a cheap "emotional" scene that represents the "hope" and "connection" Shepard has with his/her "true love" and that "deep down" the love interest "knows" that his/her "true love" is only MOSTLY dead, not DEAD dead.

To which I respond *BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARF!*

Heheheh. +1

[Uncle Jo]

[devSin]

I feel so inspired and fulfilled that my squad, my friends and comrades, are so completely willing to just give up on me, to hold my memorial before even knowing I'm dead.

We should all be so lucky.

[Michotic]

devSin wrote...

I feel so inspired and fulfilled that my squad, my friends and comrades, are so completely willing to just give up on me, to hold my memorial before even knowing I'm dead.

We should all be so lucky.

Gotta be quick to get that Captain's Cabin. You know Javik is eyeing the fish tank.

[Reap_ii]

i think it means that your LI has heard from Alliance Navy that Shep is ok. he would be in surgery somewhere and they were all waiting together as a group to hear the news. your LI would probably not want to be alone waiting to hear if Shep survived or not. if he was dead they were all gonna be there and put his name up. if they got good news, which they did, then we see what we see.

[kalasaurus]

devSin wrote...

I feel so inspired and fulfilled that my squad, my friends and comrades, are so completely willing to just give up on me, to hold my memorial before even knowing I'm dead.

We should all be so lucky.

These are the same friends that ditched Shepard when he/she needed help the most.

[MacroSpamMK]

It's chronologically incorrect.
Shepard wakes up on the Citadel and is like, "Damn I feel like **** but it's all good". He picks up a phone and calls his LI. Shepard tells his LI that Anderson is dead but he is alive and well. The LI goes back into the corridor where everyone was already preparing for Shepard's memorial. Anderson's plaque was already on the wall as the black guy always has to die. Plus, he was born in London. So the LI walks in, is about to place the plaque and then remembers the phone call they had with Shepard just 30 seconds ago and is like, "Huh, I don't have to put this up there". So the plaque doesn't go up, but the LI doesn't bother to tell the rest of the crew.

When you think about it, this makes sense as it probably would've been at least a day or two since the Crucible and the Normandy crash and Shepard probably wasn't out for that long.

Except for the phone bit. Don't know how he contacts someone that far away with a phone. DON'T ASK QUESTIONS.

[Drewton]

Reap_ii wrote...

i think it means that your LI has heard from Alliance Navy that Shep is ok. he would be in surgery somewhere and they were all waiting together as a group to hear the news. your LI would probably not want to be alone waiting to hear if Shep survived or not. if he was dead they were all gonna be there and put his name up. if they got good news, which they did, then we see what we see.

If they were in contact with Alliance Navy why couldn't Alliance Navy pick them up?

[Reap_ii]

Drewton wrote...

Reap_ii wrote...

i think it means that your LI has heard from Alliance Navy that Shep is ok. he would be in surgery somewhere and they were all waiting together as a group to hear the news. your LI would probably not want to be alone waiting to hear if Shep survived or not. if he was dead they were all gonna be there and put his name up. if they got good news, which they did, then we see what we see.

If they were in contact with Alliance Navy why couldn't Alliance Navy pick them up?

what planet did they get pushed to?  dont know.  may have been very far away.  would have to have been pushed very far away for my idea to work. 

was there a relay available for the Navy to get there quickly?  relays destroyed so we have an answer to that. 

so, if in contact with the Navy, then the news would have gotten there quicker than a ship.

[Slappy Ya Face]

Reap_ii wrote...

Drewton wrote...

Reap_ii wrote...

i think it means that your LI has heard from Alliance Navy that Shep is ok. he would be in surgery somewhere and they were all waiting together as a group to hear the news. your LI would probably not want to be alone waiting to hear if Shep survived or not. if he was dead they were all gonna be there and put his name up. if they got good news, which they did, then we see what we see.

If they were in contact with Alliance Navy why couldn't Alliance Navy pick them up?

what planet did they get pushed to?  dont know.  may have been very far away.  would have to have been pushed very far away for my idea to work. 

was there a relay available for the Navy to get there quickly?  relays destroyed so we have an answer to that. 

so, if in contact with the Navy, then the news would have gotten there quicker than a ship.

They didn't jump through a relay.

[Drewton]

And didn't you say player imagination was irrelevant to ME3 and the forums Reap II?

Modifié par Drewton, 28 février 2013 - 06:08 .

[Slappy Ya Face]

Drewton wrote...

Reap_ii wrote...

i think it means that your LI has heard from Alliance Navy that Shep is ok. he would be in surgery somewhere and they were all waiting together as a group to hear the news. your LI would probably not want to be alone waiting to hear if Shep survived or not. if he was dead they were all gonna be there and put his name up. if they got good news, which they did, then we see what we see.

If they were in contact with Alliance Navy why couldn't Alliance Navy pick them up?

To be fair on this one, it may simply have been a matter of practicality. They were all okay, but a lot of other people weren't. There were millions of injured and dying people on the citadel and earth who needed immediate help. The normandy crew was obviously fine and capable of repairing their ship, so they were left to handle things themselves. 

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

It's chronologically incorrect because a certain writer insisted.

They should have had the Normandy leave the planet, and had the memorial scene last in all the endings.

In the High EMS Destroy ending, on NG+, they should have dropped the Breath Scene, and just had the LI hold the plaque, turn, smile and start to move briskly. It is still a cliff hanger, but far more optimistic. If they did this one change when they did the EC, I think the controversy over the ending would have ended.

[Reap_ii]

Drewton wrote...

And didn't you say player imagination was irrelevant to ME3 and the forums Reap II?

no, i said Bioware says player imagination is irrelevant, when it comes to IT.  thats a different thread and referring to it here puts this thread at risk.  i would ask that you refrain. 

Modifié par Reap_ii, 28 février 2013 - 06:14 .