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[dumdum2]

OuterRim wrote...

Last night I revived a player 12 times in a single game. Funny thing was he was playing the bot. Hmmmm...

Congrats man on being such an awesome elite player.

[Bolo Xia]

seems to me everyone here is worried someone might have fun on this character.

i mean, who cares if some average player can survive with this character?
does it really make BSN that butthurt?

maybe people should use the extra consumable argument here, not everyone plays this character so you should be happy they are on your team.

btw, let me get this strait, you guys complain and whine about pugs not using gel's and then complain about a character that doesnt need them that they can use?

ya, just seems like the extra consumable argument completely applies here and if you dont like it your just a jelous scrub.... after all thats what most of BSN said about extra consumables.

ive only used this character maybe twice, so inb4thatisall i use BS.

besides if you really wanted to split hairs, then almost every single power in the game is a crutch.
also dont forget gear, consumables, and equipment.

[Striker93175]

DeathIsHere wrote...

dumdum2 wrote...

Aethyl wrote...

Well, you know, cloak.

Anyway, I fail to see the point of this thread.
Of course you don't need to spec into the revive ability, but it's still there, combined with cloak. *shrug*

The point is that people are trying to protect this "unique" class by preventing a nerf to the auto-revive. But in reality it is just a cover up for people being too bad to play the game. This thread is a testament to show that those arguments are invalid. A useless ability for the class which only supports bad gameplay by bad players, that's all it is.

So you're saying it doesn't need a nerf? Because that's what it being useless would imply.

But of course that's not what you meant, right? You're saying it's a crutch and anybody using it should feel bad because you're super awesome and don't need to use it! That's your point right? Shake your fist at those scrubs using a power you think is OP, they're bad at the game because they don't play the same way you do!

Get over yourself. Congrats, you can duo gold with a AIU without using RM. I'm happy for you, I really am, but that shows absolutely nothing either way for balance. It really doesn't. The way you play doesn't equal the way the majority plays, and no way is right. Make an actual argument for why this power is OP and not "It's a crutch for players that are worse than me!"

Actually dude, it perfectly shows how the kit is amazing without said crutch of auto revive.

Autorevive is OP because a bronze player can unlock it, skip over silver, and go through gold thinking they did fantastic because they never bled out and made it to extraction... and never even used a single medigel clip pack rocket or ops pack... with no consumables... and a katana.  In fact, because they kept on their toes they may even twisted reason to themselves they carried the team because they did all the reviving too (well duh, insta revive plus cloak).

My girlfriend has played literally 2 games, one NES game and I got her into the first stage of halo 1.  She is not a gamer.  I tested the OPness and I got her to try --- I set the character up put the character in her hands and told her when your screen is red make sure you push this...  keep that # high by going to these ammo boxes.  It's okay if your bad the moment you are about to die press that button.  We got that down first wave....  Now keep in mind this is her 3rd ever video game -ever- 1st game ME multi vs a geth silver and she came in 2nd place shy of first 8k pts.   She also has trouble coordinating the two thumb sticks to move real good... put the reegar for her so all she had to do is sorta point....  and hold down fire button....   Don't tell me its not OP  

Modifié par Striker93175, 28 février 2013 - 07:02 .

[dumdum2]

Bolo Xia wrote...

btw, let me get this strait, you guys complain and whine about pugs not using gel's and then complain about a character that doesnt need them that they can use?

I don't care if they use medigels or not, it is pretty easy to solo a wave on Gold or Platinum anyway, it just takes a bit longer with 1 player than with 4 players.

[upinya slayin]

dumdum2 wrote...

Jack Crapper wrote...

Why does Hardcore Salmon only have a Claymore IV & Acolyte II?

Even if Repair Matrix didn't autorevive, I would still spec into it. You're missing out on DR & Speed bonuses.

1. Salmon forgot his password to his old account and can't get it back, so he had to start again with an empty mainfest

2. I use Repair Matrix for the DE & Speed, it fits perfectly with the character and is a great ability

If you forget your password you can reset it. I've done it like 3 times lol. why would he start a new account? his old account had 1700 hours and 22k chalenge points. his new one less then 100 hours. Doens't make sense to me at all personally but i'm not gonna cuse anyone of anything.

[dumdum2]

upinya slayin wrote...

dumdum2 wrote...

Jack Crapper wrote...

Why does Hardcore Salmon only have a Claymore IV & Acolyte II?

Even if Repair Matrix didn't autorevive, I would still spec into it. You're missing out on DR & Speed bonuses.

1. Salmon forgot his password to his old account and can't get it back, so he had to start again with an empty mainfest

2. I use Repair Matrix for the DE & Speed, it fits perfectly with the character and is a great ability

If you forget your password you can reset it. I've done it like 3 times lol. why would he start a new account? his old account had 1700 hours and 22k chalenge points. his new one less then 100 hours. Doens't make sense to me at all personally but i'm not gonna cuse anyone of anything.

He says that he can't get it back because he can't access his old E-mail account that the new password would be sent to or something 

[ElectroNeonPanda]

Bolo Xia wrote...

i mean, who cares if some average player can survive with this character?
does it really make BSN that butthurt?

I think the crux of the problem is there are more than a few awkward individuals on here whose sole feelings of self-worth are derived from ME3.  As a result, anything that threatens to diminish their perceived awesomeness must be nerfed into the Stone Age quick smart because Heaven forbid they're reduced to playing the game simply for enjoyment alongside all the scrubs!

[Bolo Xia]

dumdum2 wrote...

Bolo Xia wrote...

btw, let me get this strait, you guys complain and whine about pugs not using gel's and then complain about a character that doesnt need them that they can use?

I don't care if they use medigels or not, it is pretty easy to solo a wave on Gold or Platinum anyway, it just takes a bit longer with 1 player than with 4 players.

yup i dont care either, i solo and can carry as well.

but the biggest whine i see on the threads is how it makes average players better, there are plenty of kits that do that already anyway.

the game is about fun, i dont see why it seems like BSN is so butthurt over this character.

if people are going to complain about the power, then at least complain its robbing the team of the revive badge 

[TheGoda]

dumdum2 wrote...

Aethyl wrote...

Well, you know, cloak.

Anyway, I fail to see the point of this thread.
Of course you don't need to spec into the revive ability, but it's still there, combined with cloak. *shrug*

The point is that people are trying to protect this "unique" class by preventing a nerf to the auto-revive. But in reality it is just a cover up for people being too bad to play the game. This thread is a testament to show that those arguments are invalid. A useless ability for the class which only supports bad gameplay by bad players, that's all it is.

Ya know dumdum when I first saw you on here I thought you were a pretty cool guy, but you're turning into an elitist ass, not everyone can get 10 waves survived on a GI plat solo, let people use them and enjoy them, if you're too good for them then leave it alone, don't make threads ****ing about it just because you don't like others having something that actually helps them play better on higher difficulties.

[dumdum2]

Bolo Xia wrote...

but the biggest whine i see on the threads is how it makes average players better, there are plenty of kits that do that already anyway.

Now take a close look at what you just wrote. If it makes the average player better. The Repair Matrix doesn't make the player better, it makes the game easier. I know it can be hard to separate those two but it is a distinct difference between getting better at doing something or just make it easier so you don't have to get better at it.

[N7 Spectre525]

Now I know why I stopped coming to these forums. The stupidity in this place makes my brain hurt. What a pointless thread.

[dumdum2]

TheGoda wrote...

Ya know dumdum when I first saw you on here I thought you were a pretty cool guy, but you're turning into an elitist ass, not everyone can get 10 waves survived on a GI plat solo, let people use them and enjoy them, if you're too good for them then leave it alone, don't make threads ****ing about it just because you don't like others having something that actually helps them play better on higher difficulties.

Maybe you haven't been on this forum long enough to have seen all my threads in the past. I like to provoke, it doesn't mean I'm serious about it 

[Commander Castillo]

...am I supposed to be impressed or?

[ElectroNeonPanda]

dumdum2 wrote...

I like to provoke, it doesn't mean I'm serious about it 

So, you're a troll then.

[dumdum2]

Commander Castillo wrote...

...am I supposed to be impressed or?

Yes? 

[Jerramie]

So now I understand the point of this thread. It is a twofold point. The first is that the BSN top 1% leaderboard aristocracy doesn't like the idea of the peasants eating at the same table as they. Big deal, you spawn killed via missiles and such through a gold game against the Reapers. It would have been more impressive to see a UUG duo. Just because some people are Rain Man good at video games is no reason to put others down there Tech Support Steve( reference to SNL). I've seen some of your pics in other postings. So maybe you should not act like dlcks. Wanna impress me; let's see how we'll you did at your most recent sports event and/or your most recent Standardised Test.
The other reason for this thread is? Troll, troll, troll,troll, ttrrroooolllll!!!!!!!

[SomeKindaEnigma]

So people who choose not to play exactly like you, OP, are wrong and incapable of truly playing the game? That's all I really got out of this topic.

[Bolo Xia]

dumdum2 wrote...

Bolo Xia wrote...

but the biggest whine i see on the threads is how it makes average players better, there are plenty of kits that do that already anyway.

Now take a close look at what you just wrote. If it makes the average player better. The Repair Matrix doesn't make the player better, it makes the game easier. I know it can be hard to separate those two but it is a distinct difference between getting better at doing something or just make it easier so you don't have to get better at it.

people say grenades, tactical cloak, half the weapons, all the gear do the same thing.

so my point is why not just nerf everything.

even powers like cryo blast can freeze enemies and make them dodge on command, so if we split hairs here, then any power in the game makes the game easier.

i could understand a nerf if a character looked in a direction and within a split second everything died, you know like the krysae was doing to the game. 

but even with extra revives, people still have to kill stuff the old fashioned way.

so i just dont see it your way, as i dont understand that line of thinking, it just seems like insanity to worry about the EDI Bot to me.

also, i can never get an answer out of BSN as to what is the exact perfectly balanced character, i mean which character can you point to and say "now that one is perfectly balanced" ?

[Jerramie]

Oh and what is the difference between skill making a game easier and a game feature making the game easier? Tell you what. I'll gladly support the removal repair matrix to keep the game hard for others if you cut your hands off to make the game hard for you. Deal? Of course being you are a troll your hands would just grow back. So maybe you should cut your head off????

[junkgypsy]

You do realize OP that everyone here is not perfect like you. There are people who play this game with physical limitations, limitated menatl abilities, and of course age related disabilites. Yes age, because your reflexes, eyesight and everything else slow down. People like you are bigots who think everyone that plays this game is a perfect able bodied person. So to make such a general statment is small minded.

[DHKany]

Cool story.

[dumdum2]

SomeKindaEnigma wrote...

So people who choose not to play exactly like you, OP, are wrong and incapable of truly playing the game? That's all I really got out of this topic.

QFT

I must be a God to play like this you know, so if other people can't then they should all adhere to the mighty "10 waves survived God" shouldn't they?

[The Sir Tendeth]

If they were in every lobby, which they may yet be in the future, or they were killing everything there is, then I could see your complaint.

But it sounds like - they need to receive their stripes, and put in the same hours I did, while grinding up through the difficulties. Once they have earned the weapons and corresponding skill to be in gold and platinum games, they can join me, else get out of my lobby Scrubs.

The game has Maybe a year left in it, and 90% of these players are not going to log hundreds of hours too become elite.

And yet they will join gold and platinum hoping to get the kit that they want to role play. See Rio, or the other noob strategies. Now they can do what there going to do whether you like it or not, help the team, and you can extract, so you wont waste consumables. Yet you still complain.

Again they aren't going to go robbing skilled players of the opportunities of getting to kill things. Its not overpowered in that way. Its good enough that they can be on the scoreboard, but thats it. So please enjoy it, Rio just might go away.

[LegionofRannoch]

Jerramie wrote...

So now I understand the point of this thread. It is a twofold point. The first is that the BSN top 1% leaderboard aristocracy doesn't like the idea of the peasants eating at the same table as they. Big deal, you spawn killed via missiles and such through a gold game against the Reapers. It would have been more impressive to see a UUG duo. Just because some people are Rain Man good at video games is no reason to put others down there Tech Support Steve( reference to SNL). I've seen some of your pics in other postings. So maybe you should not act like dlcks. Wanna impress me; let's see how we'll you did at your most recent sports event and/or your most recent Standardised Test.
The other reason for this thread is? Troll, troll, troll,troll, ttrrroooolllll!!!!!!!

i believe one of these points is accurate

[D_BiZsL3]

this thread sucks