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I bet its Shepard's older brother.

Modifié par DinoSteve, 01 mars 2013 - 02:11 .


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 It's Elias Keeler

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Darth Brotarian wrote...

KillTheWiseOne wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...
However, both Kaidan and Ash were like "Forget me, save the other" so they probably wouldn't hold it against Shepard.


that was before the blast, after the blast, and the searing pain, that could change.


How does one survive being at ground zero for a megaton nuclear detonation?


Simple. Shepard had time to evac which means there was also time for the Reapers or Geth to have taken Kaidan or Ashley with the intent on indoctinating them.

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BD Manchild wrote...

I would say "don't go giving them ideas", but it's too late for that now, isn't it? All I can say is that I certainly hope the OP's prediction is wrong.

Even worse, it could be Nihlus, which would certainly upset both Marauder Shields fans and fans of good storytelling (after all, what possible reason would Nihlus have to want Shepard dead?).


You are probably right. I do believe that the Citadel DLC will be just more of the same dull crap we already got and the vailan will be the single most dissapointing thing that BW ever pulled out of their A****.

It is just going further down the hill with ME in general... sad!

But let's fact check here for a moment:
  • - It has to be a character that every player knows which means
  • NO sidequest character
  • NO DLC
  • NO loyalty mission characters
  • NO character that is tied to Shepards origin (also this might be cool)
  • NO character who's live depends on a choice you made
  • NO character we killed first hand (only cutscence)
  • Can't be Udina or any other character we already dealt with him in ME3
  • It has to be big since it is the very last DLC for ME3 and Shepard.
So let's see who is left (alive or a way to somehow bring the character back from the grave):
  • Kaidan/Ashley ME1 (obvious but WORSE IDEA then any others)
  • Executor Palin ME1 (alive and turned corrupt according to Baily)
  • Metriach Benezia ME1 (could be ressurected somehow but DUMB...)
  • Richard L. Jenkins ME1 (could be ressurected AWESOME...)
  • Barla Von ME1/ME3  (Somehow unlikely....)
  • Pitne For ME2 (Dumb)
  • Arvina ME1/ME2/ME3 (WTF ?!?!)
  • Warlord Okeer ME2 (could be ressurected but DUMB)
  • Nassana Dantius ME1/ME2 (could be ressurected but EXTREMELY STUPID)
  • Mess Seargant Gardner ME2 (this would be awkward...):bandit:
  • Sha'ira ME1 (well....why?)
  • Nilus ME1 (why god WHY?)
  • Elias Keeler ME1
  • Any minor Merc leader ME1/ME2 (STUPID beause noone cares about the red shirts)
  • Charles Saracino ME1
  • Tarak ME2 or one of his henchman... (ressurectable but DUMB)
  • Jaroth ME2 or one of his henchman...(ressurectable but DUMB)
  • Garm ME2 or one of his henchman...(ressurectable but DUMB)
That's it....

My money is on "The Kardashians" (ASHLEY/KAIDAN) since it would fit in the whole (you can hang out with the people you love BS...)

...but my hopes are on "Richard L. Jenkins" or "Executor Palin"

Modifié par chemieali, 01 mars 2013 - 03:25 .


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Whoever it is, I hope they will NOT be connected with Cerberus at all.

What if it's the Shepard VI, which turns out to be an AI, trying to take Shepard's place. Organic vs. Synthetic you know... well probably not. :?

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chemieali wrote...

BD Manchild wrote...

I would say "don't go giving them ideas", but it's too late for that now, isn't it? All I can say is that I certainly hope the OP's prediction is wrong.

Even worse, it could be Nihlus, which would certainly upset both Marauder Shields fans and fans of good storytelling (after all, what possible reason would Nihlus have to want Shepard dead?).


You are probably right. I do believe that the Citadel DLC will be just more of the same dull crap we already got and the vailan will be the single most dissapointing thing that BW ever pulled out of their A****.

It is just going further down the hill with ME in general... sad!

But let's fact check here for a moment:
  • - It has to be a character that every player knows which means
  • NO sidequest character
  • NO DLC
  • NO loyalty mission characters
  • NO character that is tied to Shepards origin (also this might be cool)
  • NO character who's live depends on a choice you made
  • NO character we killed first hand (only cutscence)
  • Can't be Udina or any other character we already dealt with him in ME3
  • It has to be big since it is the very last DLC for ME3 and Shepard.
So let's see who is left (alive or a way to somehow bring the character back from the grave):
  • Kaidan/Ashley ME1 (obvious but WORSE IDEA then any others)
  • Executor Palin ME1 (alive and turned corrupt according to Baily)
  • Metriach Benezia ME1 (could be ressurected somehow but DUMB...)
  • Richard L. Jenkins ME1 (could be ressurected AWESOME...)
  • Barla Von ME1/ME3  (Somehow unlikely....)
  • Pitne For ME2 (Dumb)
  • Arvina ME1/ME2/ME3 (WTF ?!?!)
  • Warlord Okeer ME2 (could be ressurected but DUMB)
  • Nassana Dantius ME1/ME2 (could be ressurected but EXTREMELY STUPID)
  • Mess Seargant Gardner ME2 (this would be awkward...):bandit:
  • Sha'ira ME1 (well....why?)
  • Nilus ME1 (why god WHY?)
  • Elias Keeler ME1
  • Any minor Merc leader ME1/ME2 (STUPID beause noone cares about the red shirts)
  • Charles Saracino ME1
  • Tarak ME2 or one of his henchman... (ressurectable but DUMB)
  • Jaroth ME2 or one of his henchman...(ressurectable but DUMB)
  • Garm ME2 or one of his henchman...(ressurectable but DUMB)
That's it....

My money is on "The Kardashians" (ASHLEY/KAIDAN) since it would fit in the whole (you can hang out with the people you love BS...)

...but my hopes are on "Richard L. Jenkins" or "Executor Palin"





[/list]
You left out a few possibles you  know.

Harbinger
Collectors
Reapers
Cerberus ( dumb )
Catalyst
Another Spectre
The Citadel Council
The Geth

No doubt there are other options as well. Of course it could also be someone else entirely new for any number of reasons.

#157
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Keeper 22(if i recall corrrectly) and the rest of the keepers.

We know nothing of them...

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..... Diana Allers

1) because players if not all players want to toss her not just outta the air lock but completely from the mass effect story.

2) it will boost IGN/EA like comment and subscribes reguardless if the comments are hate or likes.

3) the character is a reporter/journalist has connections on both good and dirt on Shep.

4) Allers in me3 really doesn't do anything but add a very very tiny 5 point war asset and is also an awful waste if time when you page up into the sack.

5). just a guess but Allers was prob the one to either stage or report Kal Reegar and the other reporters death. Who knows its a video game they could still be very well alive. And maybe in the DLC Shep gets to discover that both Reegar and the reporter are still alive and gets to save them during the DLC. /prob wrong but just a wishful guess.

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Nykara wrote...

chemieali wrote...

BD Manchild wrote...

I would say "don't go giving them ideas", but it's too late for that now, isn't it? All I can say is that I certainly hope the OP's prediction is wrong.

Even worse, it could be Nihlus, which would certainly upset both Marauder Shields fans and fans of good storytelling (after all, what possible reason would Nihlus have to want Shepard dead?).


You are probably right. I do believe that the Citadel DLC will be just more of the same dull crap we already got and the vailan will be the single most dissapointing thing that BW ever pulled out of their A****.

It is just going further down the hill with ME in general... sad!

But let's fact check here for a moment:
  • - It has to be a character that every player knows which means
  • NO sidequest character
  • NO DLC
  • NO loyalty mission characters
  • NO character that is tied to Shepards origin (also this might be cool)
  • NO character who's live depends on a choice you made
  • NO character we killed first hand (only cutscence)
  • Can't be Udina or any other character we already dealt with him in ME3
  • It has to be big since it is the very last DLC for ME3 and Shepard.
So let's see who is left (alive or a way to somehow bring the character back from the grave):
  • Kaidan/Ashley ME1 (obvious but WORSE IDEA then any others)
  • Executor Palin ME1 (alive and turned corrupt according to Baily)
  • Metriach Benezia ME1 (could be ressurected somehow but DUMB...)
  • Richard L. Jenkins ME1 (could be ressurected AWESOME...)
  • Barla Von ME1/ME3  (Somehow unlikely....)
  • Pitne For ME2 (Dumb)
  • Arvina ME1/ME2/ME3 (WTF ?!?!)
  • Warlord Okeer ME2 (could be ressurected but DUMB)
  • Nassana Dantius ME1/ME2 (could be ressurected but EXTREMELY STUPID)
  • Mess Seargant Gardner ME2 (this would be awkward...):bandit:
  • Sha'ira ME1 (well....why?)
  • Nilus ME1 (why god WHY?)
  • Elias Keeler ME1
  • Any minor Merc leader ME1/ME2 (STUPID beause noone cares about the red shirts)
  • Charles Saracino ME1
  • Tarak ME2 or one of his henchman... (ressurectable but DUMB)
  • Jaroth ME2 or one of his henchman...(ressurectable but DUMB)
  • Garm ME2 or one of his henchman...(ressurectable but DUMB)
That's it....

My money is on "The Kardashians" (ASHLEY/KAIDAN) since it would fit in the whole (you can hang out with the people you love BS...)

...but my hopes are on "Richard L. Jenkins" or "Executor Palin"





[/list]
You left out a few possibles you  know.

Harbinger
Collectors
Reapers
Cerberus ( dumb )
Catalyst
Another Spectre
The Citadel Council
The Geth

No doubt there are other options as well. Of course it could also be someone else entirely new for any number of reasons.



The Organization behind the Antagonist is not important (my money is on Cerberus anyway because I don't think BW will introduce a new faction in their last DLC... hope I am wrong)

I am talking about the Character behind the conspiracy. But Harbinger sounds a little out there... I get the impression that this would rather be some kind of political conspiracy which would rule out the brute Reaper force.

But like I said the henchman you shoot are irrelevant. I want to know who's behind it...

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My vote is on Khalisah Bint-Sinan al-Jilanni or however you spell her name. 

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Anyone say "the real Shepard" yet? The one who would never cave into suicide surrender.

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2Shepards wrote...

God i hope not, as Shepard is forced to emote tonnes of guilt throughout ME3 for the Ash/Kaidan and leaving them behind. What was the point of all that if they can poof back into existence.


That would be a LOT of happy people dancing on Virmire Victim's (new) grave.

I hope it's not the case, the idea is still as ridiculous as when it appeared in the past..

SpamBot2000 wrote...

Anyone say "the real Shepard" yet? The one who would never cave into suicide surrender.


Did you ever read "Fear Agent" comics? I recommend :D

Modifié par AkodoRyu, 01 mars 2013 - 04:14 .


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dude just stfu

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It can't be side mission related because not everyone did all the side missions in every playthrough so it would be insane to do that if going by what Chris Priestly has tossed out regarding this DLC, Shepard doesn't know what is going to happen (to make the apartment logical despite shepard not caring much for the citadel if you make renegade dialogue choices with Vega on the embassy floor right after meeting with the council to get help and then with Jeff the first time you see him with EDI in the commons) - so by that logic, it cannot be someone from a past side mission that shepard might not have done since not doing the mission gives them no reason to want to kill shepard. If it's someone they think we will like, then that seems to point to someone we've met during main missions in ME1 or ME2 that can still be alive and make for a great bad guy.

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Wait, isn't it obvious it'd most likely be TIM?

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Yaos wrote...

I'm gonna go with Harbinger.
Because he deserves it.



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chemieali wrote...

BD Manchild wrote...

I would say "don't go giving them ideas", but it's too late for that now, isn't it? All I can say is that I certainly hope the OP's prediction is wrong.

Even worse, it could be Nihlus, which would certainly upset both Marauder Shields fans and fans of good storytelling (after all, what possible reason would Nihlus have to want Shepard dead?).


You are probably right. I do believe that the Citadel DLC will be just more of the same dull crap we already got and the vailan will be the single most dissapointing thing that BW ever pulled out of their A****.

It is just going further down the hill with ME in general... sad!

But let's fact check here for a moment:
  • - It has to be a character that every player knows which means
  • NO sidequest character
  • NO DLC
  • NO loyalty mission characters
  • NO character that is tied to Shepards origin (also this might be cool)
  • NO character who's live depends on a choice you made
  • NO character we killed first hand (only cutscence)
  • Can't be Udina or any other character we already dealt with him in ME3
  • It has to be big since it is the very last DLC for ME3 and Shepard.
So let's see who is left (alive or a way to somehow bring the character back from the grave):
  • Kaidan/Ashley ME1 (obvious but WORSE IDEA then any others)
  • Executor Palin ME1 (alive and turned corrupt according to Baily)
  • Metriach Benezia ME1 (could be ressurected somehow but DUMB...)
  • Richard L. Jenkins ME1 (could be ressurected AWESOME...)
  • Barla Von ME1/ME3  (Somehow unlikely....)
  • Pitne For ME2 (Dumb)
  • Arvina ME1/ME2/ME3 (WTF ?!?!)
  • Warlord Okeer ME2 (could be ressurected but DUMB)
  • Nassana Dantius ME1/ME2 (could be ressurected but EXTREMELY STUPID)
  • Mess Seargant Gardner ME2 (this would be awkward...):bandit:
  • Sha'ira ME1 (well....why?)
  • Nilus ME1 (why god WHY?)
  • Elias Keeler ME1
  • Any minor Merc leader ME1/ME2 (STUPID beause noone cares about the red shirts)
  • Charles Saracino ME1
  • Tarak ME2 or one of his henchman... (ressurectable but DUMB)
  • Jaroth ME2 or one of his henchman...(ressurectable but DUMB)
  • Garm ME2 or one of his henchman...(ressurectable but DUMB)
That's it....

My money is on "The Kardashians" (ASHLEY/KAIDAN) since it would fit in the whole (you can hang out with the people you love BS...)

...but my hopes are on "Richard L. Jenkins" or "Executor Palin"







Whatever the big reveal is supposed to be, I'm willing to bet that it's the most unsatisfactory outcome possible. It happened once before, it'll happen again.

Modifié par BD Manchild, 01 mars 2013 - 05:19 .


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Jenkins, I forgot him. That would be great twist, but did the Normandy take his body or not, I thought the alliance took all bodies to be examined?

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BD Manchild wrote...

chemieali wrote...

BD Manchild wrote...

I would say "don't go giving them ideas", but it's too late for that now, isn't it? All I can say is that I certainly hope the OP's prediction is wrong.

Even worse, it could be Nihlus, which would certainly upset both Marauder Shields fans and fans of good storytelling (after all, what possible reason would Nihlus have to want Shepard dead?).


You are probably right. I do believe that the Citadel DLC will be just more of the same dull crap we already got and the vailan will be the single most dissapointing thing that BW ever pulled out of their A****.

It is just going further down the hill with ME in general... sad!

But let's fact check here for a moment:
  • - It has to be a character that every player knows which means
  • NO sidequest character
  • NO DLC
  • NO loyalty mission characters
  • NO character that is tied to Shepards origin (also this might be cool)
  • NO character who's live depends on a choice you made
  • NO character we killed first hand (only cutscence)
  • Can't be Udina or any other character we already dealt with him in ME3
  • It has to be big since it is the very last DLC for ME3 and Shepard.
So let's see who is left (alive or a way to somehow bring the character back from the grave):
  • Kaidan/Ashley ME1 (obvious but WORSE IDEA then any others)
  • Executor Palin ME1 (alive and turned corrupt according to Baily)
  • Metriach Benezia ME1 (could be ressurected somehow but DUMB...)
  • Richard L. Jenkins ME1 (could be ressurected AWESOME...)
  • Barla Von ME1/ME3  (Somehow unlikely....)
  • Pitne For ME2 (Dumb)
  • Arvina ME1/ME2/ME3 (WTF ?!?!)
  • Warlord Okeer ME2 (could be ressurected but DUMB)
  • Nassana Dantius ME1/ME2 (could be ressurected but EXTREMELY STUPID)
  • Mess Seargant Gardner ME2 (this would be awkward...):bandit:
  • Sha'ira ME1 (well....why?)
  • Nilus ME1 (why god WHY?)
  • Elias Keeler ME1
  • Any minor Merc leader ME1/ME2 (STUPID beause noone cares about the red shirts)
  • Charles Saracino ME1
  • Tarak ME2 or one of his henchman... (ressurectable but DUMB)
  • Jaroth ME2 or one of his henchman...(ressurectable but DUMB)
  • Garm ME2 or one of his henchman...(ressurectable but DUMB)
That's it....

My money is on "The Kardashians" (ASHLEY/KAIDAN) since it would fit in the whole (you can hang out with the people you love BS...)

...but my hopes are on "Richard L. Jenkins" or "Executor Palin"







Whatever the big reveal is supposed to be, I'm willing to bet that it's the most unsatisfactory outcome possible. It happened once before, it'll happen again.

so true...



kobayashi-maru wrote...

Jenkins, I forgot him. That would
be great twist, but did the Normandy take his body or not, I thought the
alliance took all bodies to be examined?

Yes but that is at least something you can logically explain since we never saw what happened to his actual body.
And taking to account that the bodycount on Eden Prime was tremendously high.....  Did the USMC found every lost GI, dead or alive, after Vietnam?

Modifié par chemieali, 01 mars 2013 - 05:53 .


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What about Anoleis from ME1?

Modifié par Soul8lighter, 01 mars 2013 - 06:06 .


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If it hasn't been mentioned yet, what about the mechanic from Horizon?

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RACDB wrote...

If it hasn't been mentioned yet, what about the mechanic from Horizon?


Why would he be a villan?!

Some random punt-up mechanic from some colony in the middle of nowhere... yeah... great villan... 

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Someone who has good reason to hate Shepard? It will probably be Batarians. Batarians, or someone who survived from James' mission dealing with collectors, or someone who has someone left behind on Earth, or Toomb's for Shepard's work with Cerberus, or any number of people who lost loved ones to the Collector's (Shepard didn't act fast enough!) or in the battle for the Citadel (Shepard sacrificed humans/aliens to same aliens/humans!). These are all far far more plausible and immediately come to mind.

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The "Retake ME3: Initative Log" on Facebook  just posted a list of leaked XBox360 achievements from Eurogamer...

Perfect Host
Throw a party for your friends.
G 10


I didn't thought it was ment so literally?

Why is EA forcing all of their successfull game concepts take are making money on everyone?
  • Mass Effect 3 needs focus more on action?
Throw in some Battlefield 3!
  • Mass Effect needs to be more "social"?
Throw in some Sims 3!

Seriously whats next? ....FIFA?!? ....NFS?!?!

Quit dumbing stuff down and down and down..... Look at your sales numbers for Christ sake your policy of appealing to "new audiences" (whatever that means) didn't even add-up!

I expect NOTHING from the upcoming DLC... I will buy it anyway because I have bought every other and I hope I will be surprised... but I doubt it!

For ME4 I am officially OUT!

There is no one there anymore at BioWare that actually cares about their own creation. They destroyed the lore, riped the characters, screwed their own universe (logic, what logic?!?!) dumbed down everything until the game is literally EVERYTHING for EVERYBODY...
Why can't you just IMPROVE YOUR GAMES?!?! Others can do that too, you know? It is not that hard you know BioWare! If Ubisoft can do it. You can do it too... Look at the improvement from AC1 to AC2 or FarCry2 to FarCry 3.
That is what you get when you ACTUALLY IMPROVE and not SIMPIFY ANYTHING!!!

I say it all the time EA & BioWare: When you think of AAA Action.... think more Christopher Nolan and less Michael Bay!

Until BioWare redeems itself with some actual true stuff I will rather stick to Jersey Shore then returning to BioWare...

Sorry for my outburst.... this says it all!

Modifié par chemieali, 01 mars 2013 - 07:33 .


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Did somebody mention Shaira already? She's perfect for the role...