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[CmnDwnWrkn]

BioWare should apologize for dumping such a broken mess of a character on us.

[WaffleCrab]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

BioWare should apologize for dumping such a broken mess of a character on us.

heres an idea, lets give the cain mines an "active sound" when they are active and waiting to be tripped, that oughta fix it right?

[The Shadow Broker]

talon merc and cabal absolutely suck in higher difficulties: The rest kits are balanced and very funny so PLEASE ERIC, dont touch em, some people were asking for no insta kill for krogan warlords also like the juggernaut; but i dont know the juggernaut ridiculous slow speed and no being able to take cover compensates that imo.

I only would buff those 2 characters-Cabal and Talon- (at least more shields and life 25%) and the Adas that is no very popular and not near the SP version. Also add the chakram!

[WaffleCrab]

The Shadow Broker wrote...

talon merc and cabal absolutely suck in higher difficulties: The rest kits are balanced and very funny so PLEASE ERIC, dont touch em, some people were asking for no insta kill for krogan warlords also like the juggernaut; but i dont know the juggernaut ridiculous slow speed and no being able to take cover compensates that imo.

I only would buff those 2 characters-Cabal and Talon- (at least more shields and life 25%) and the Adas that is no very popular and not near the SP version. Also add the chakram!

I dont see how cabal sucks, unless ofcourse, you rely only on PS.

[The Shadow Broker]

WaffleCrab wrote...

The Shadow Broker wrote...

talon merc and cabal absolutely suck in higher difficulties: The rest kits are balanced and very funny so PLEASE ERIC, dont touch em, some people were asking for no insta kill for krogan warlords also like the juggernaut; but i dont know the juggernaut ridiculous slow speed and no being able to take cover compensates that imo.

I only would buff those 2 characters-Cabal and Talon- (at least more shields and life 25%) and the Adas that is no very popular and not near the SP version. Also add the chakram!

I dont see how cabal sucks, unless ofcourse, you rely only on PS.

excuse me what is PS, im a bit confussed

the life and shield really suck at platinum for cabal, get you moving almost all the time and taking cover  to recover them with no time to really shoot; and the powers abilities are short ranged oriented, and in platinum with praetorians and banshees chasing you and phanthoms everywhere is not a smart idea to get close to use those poison abilities.At least the rest of the vanguards can recharge shields with the biotic charge, so this kit is not as rewarded for being in close combat like the rest of vanguards.

[Argus1127]

Hummm, would help if the bug of resting your controls was fixed....did no one play the unit before it was released???

[WaffleCrab]

The Shadow Broker wrote...

WaffleCrab wrote...

The Shadow Broker wrote...

talon merc and cabal absolutely suck in higher difficulties: The rest kits are balanced and very funny so PLEASE ERIC, dont touch em, some people were asking for no insta kill for krogan warlords also like the juggernaut; but i dont know the juggernaut ridiculous slow speed and no being able to take cover compensates that imo.

I only would buff those 2 characters-Cabal and Talon- (at least more shields and life 25%) and the Adas that is no very popular and not near the SP version. Also add the chakram!

I dont see how cabal sucks, unless ofcourse, you rely only on PS.

excuse me what is PS, im a bit confussed

the life and shield really suck at platinum for cabal, get you moving almost all the time and taking cover  to recover them with no time to really shoot; and the powers abilities are short ranged oriented, and in platinum with praetorians and banshees chasing you and phanthoms everywhere is not a smart idea to get close to use those poison abilities.At least the rest of the vanguards can recharge shields with the biotic charge, so this kit is not as rewarded for being in close combat like the rest of vanguards.

poison strike, newb.

[Droma]

as mentioned many times in this thread. the cain mines are a beast on gold/platinum. But most people I see totally use them wrong and place them on the ground or other stupid areas. If you learn how to use them you will have a lot of fun with them.

the bow on the other hand is crappy atm =( to buggy and too less damage for the risk of exposing yourself all the time.

[WaffleCrab]

Droma wrote...

as mentioned many times in this thread. the cain mines are a beast on gold/platinum. But most people I see totally use them wrong and place them on the ground or other stupid areas. If you learn how to use them you will have a lot of fun with them.

the bow on the other hand is crappy atm =( to buggy and too less damage for the risk of exposing yourself all the time.

I place the mines i want an atlas or brute to step on, on the ground, not so some mook can trip it and waste it, or people set them on the ground for an imbending spam, shows what you know xD

[Droma]

... I know how to use them against bosses, but I saw many people placing them on the ground right before some marodeurs and stuff. you place them on the wall and in emergencies or if you want to nuke a spawn you spam them (that's the only time it doesn't really count where to place them)

also i find it much more usefull (even on platinum), to kill "mooks" like geth hunter, bomber and phantoms with them. as mentioned earlier, if I see that a banshee or atlas comes close to my team I can always spam them on the ground. I also always have enough to not worry about "wasting them" on mooks. you can easily carry ~12 of them, they regenerate every 20 seconds and you can get enough out of ammo boxes, I don't see your point.

Modifié par Droma, 08 mars 2013 - 06:51 .

[WaffleCrab]

Droma wrote...

... I know how to use them against bosses, but I saw many people placing them on the ground right before some marodeurs and stuff. you place them on the wall and in emergencies or if you want to nuke a spawn you spam them (that's the only time it doesn't really count where to place them)

also i find it much more usefull (even on platinum), to kill "mooks" like geth hunter, bomber and phantoms with them. as mentioned earlier, if I see that a banshee or atlas comes close to my team I can always spam them on the ground. I also always have enough to not worry about "wasting them" on mooks. you can easily carry ~12 of them, they regenerate every 20 seconds and you can get enough out of ammo boxes, I don't see your point.

not everyone has the uber fast regenration i for example like to carry a bit heavier weapon incase needed, which, often is the case. so the regen is at 50+seconds.

[Walsh1980]

I think I found a build I like on this guy. Basically just let his Omni Bow do the aiming for you with a Crusader (fire an arrow, shoot Crusader), with the Shock Trooper gear for more mine spam.

[Wakizashi.Sabre]

The Shadow Broker wrote...

talon merc and cabal absolutely suck in higher difficulties: The rest kits are balanced and very funny so PLEASE ERIC, dont touch em, some people were asking for no insta kill for krogan warlords also like the juggernaut; but i dont know the juggernaut ridiculous slow speed and no being able to take cover compensates that imo.

I only would buff those 2 characters-Cabal and Talon- (at least more shields and life 25%) and the Adas that is no very popular and not near the SP version. Also add the chakram!

What a joke, when farming on platinum, my talon is usually at the top of scoreboard....

Also, for another guy who was complaining about the fact the bad angle mines cannot be detonated, while this is not the perfect solution, if you know the order of your mines, you can cast the fourth one and make the first one explode. Use this to your advantage. You can hit lots of enemies thanks to the radius, even if enemies would never activate it by themselves.

[silentzmagician]

well personally i love hawkeye as i call him he is my platinum character and i dont really use his arrows unless something is frozen max out trip mine 2 of them kills a brute the basically rely on ur gun skills aka trap urself in and watch ur six and u will be fine

[IBPROFEN]

Hey BW have you got any INFO on Talon Engineer fix for PC yet? Haven't been able to play it yet, and it's a shame its probably going to get buffed/nerfed before everyone can actually get to play it.

[CrashBuG]

Engineering Kit V increased the omni bow... a fraction more than than what Melee equipment does....
And there is no over the cover grab, wtf?
I use thumb mouse button for ops survival pack...which doesn't work for talon mercenary.... 0_0?

[The Shadow Broker]

WaffleCrab wrote...

The Shadow Broker wrote...

WaffleCrab wrote...

The Shadow Broker wrote...

talon merc and cabal absolutely suck in higher difficulties: The rest kits are balanced and very funny so PLEASE ERIC, dont touch em, some people were asking for no insta kill for krogan warlords also like the juggernaut; but i dont know the juggernaut ridiculous slow speed and no being able to take cover compensates that imo.

I only would buff those 2 characters-Cabal and Talon- (at least more shields and life 25%) and the Adas that is no very popular and not near the SP version. Also add the chakram!

I dont see how cabal sucks, unless ofcourse, you rely only on PS.

excuse me what is PS, im a bit confussed

the life and shield really suck at platinum for cabal, get you moving almost all the time and taking cover  to recover them with no time to really shoot; and the powers abilities are short ranged oriented, and in platinum with praetorians and banshees chasing you and phanthoms everywhere is not a smart idea to get close to use those poison abilities.At least the rest of the vanguards can recharge shields with the biotic charge, so this kit is not as rewarded for being in close combat like the rest of vanguards.

poison strike, newb.

cant imagine every acronym you have in mind, not even included here https://docs.google....ViZjU1ckE#gid=0

btw joined before you, newb 

Modifié par The Shadow Broker, 10 mars 2013 - 02:52 .

[Farmtech-Ru]

played around with it. aiming xbow makes him too slow in the enemy line of fire. slow aiming speed. main word on this all is slow as a concrete glider. don't like the look of the bow either. even paper thin drell has better uses of melee - he can push stuff off balance and do it fast. imho being able to do even minor stuff fast is better than getting killed while trying to do bigger stuff slower.

p.s. cabal does not suck. it has shield pill that is great, cuz of shield gate mechanic.

Modifié par Farmtech-Ru, 10 mars 2013 - 04:16 .

[iIDaftPunk]

I personally think the damage on the omni bow could do with just a bit of a buff or some power choices to be changed. I personally think that one of the options on the armor piercing tree should have a shatter armor option. For example when used on an armor target like a Brute, Dragoon, Atlas, Banshee etc they take 25%-30% more damage for x amount of seconds. He feels like he should be more of a support class than a damage dealer.

Cain Mines for the damage and stagger, armor piercing for armor debuffs and fire to applied to targets and concusion for crowd control if things get a bit hectic. I still feel the concusive tree is more for fun than anything as I think distruptor arrows would of been a better choice since he would be able to take down shield&barriers with the right options selected and armor with counterpart.

For me it seems that there is always one dummy power on most characters you can get away with not applying points into which is a shame because it would be fun to have all powers relevant so you can go with 2+ of the same character but they arent since they are all spec'd different.

[Brad_8333]

So maybe I'm alone in this but, I was playing platinum and I one shotted a phantom with concussive arrows. Unfortunately I haven't been able to recreate this again. I think that the arrows are just bugged. Plus my third concussive arrow never uses the effect.

[Vlark]

WaffleCrab wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

BioWare should apologize for dumping such a broken mess of a character on us.

heres an idea, lets give the cain mines an "active sound" when they are active and waiting to be tripped, that oughta fix it right?

You get accustomed to WHEN they will activate. Just takes a bit of practice.

[Clayless]

Ok this character is just terrible. For having such a slow melee, and two powers built around melee, it really, really shouldn't be this flimsy and/or dish out zero damage with a heavy melee. It's so aggrivating to put so much equipment on him and stand out in the open for seconds aiming the bow, and somehow not go down, only to watch the bow lightly bruise the mooks shields.

And heck if I'm being honest the grenade regen isn't that good either. 47.79 seconds to gain 1 grenade in a Harrier 7? Pffft.

[WaffleCrab]

The Shadow Broker wrote...

WaffleCrab wrote...

The Shadow Broker wrote...

WaffleCrab wrote...

The Shadow Broker wrote...

talon merc and cabal absolutely suck in higher difficulties: The rest kits are balanced and very funny so PLEASE ERIC, dont touch em, some people were asking for no insta kill for krogan warlords also like the juggernaut; but i dont know the juggernaut ridiculous slow speed and no being able to take cover compensates that imo.

I only would buff those 2 characters-Cabal and Talon- (at least more shields and life 25%) and the Adas that is no very popular and not near the SP version. Also add the chakram!

I dont see how cabal sucks, unless ofcourse, you rely only on PS.

excuse me what is PS, im a bit confussed

the life and shield really suck at platinum for cabal, get you moving almost all the time and taking cover  to recover them with no time to really shoot; and the powers abilities are short ranged oriented, and in platinum with praetorians and banshees chasing you and phanthoms everywhere is not a smart idea to get close to use those poison abilities.At least the rest of the vanguards can recharge shields with the biotic charge, so this kit is not as rewarded for being in close combat like the rest of vanguards.

poison strike, newb.

cant imagine every acronym you have in mind, not even included here https://docs.google....ViZjU1ckE#gid=0

btw joined before you, newb 

nub, check cabal which of the skills names woukd make acronym PS

Modifié par WaffleCrab, 11 mars 2013 - 12:27 .

[WaffleCrab]

Vlark wrote...

WaffleCrab wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

BioWare should apologize for dumping such a broken mess of a character on us.

heres an idea, lets give the cain mines an "active sound" when they are active and waiting to be tripped, that oughta fix it right?

You get accustomed to WHEN they will activate. Just takes a bit of practice.

it was a joke incase you didnt click the link

[kelly ripas bicep]

UPDATE: I did witness a talon extract on Platinum! We were reviving him the entire match, and he never once used the bow, so would have been better off with any soldier class, but still . . .

As far as the higher difficulty debate goes, I think we finally got some viable classes for platinum, and it would be a shame to nerf them. Even the cabal can hang on plat if you spec out of PS completely. The talon has problems though.