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There was a lot of negativity for this character on the first 10 pages. Did they buff his shields/health/bow damage or something?

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I've always run this guy with only a Disciple with omni blade+ ULM, for quicker grenade regen (no shotty is lighter and no other type of weapon offers omni blade.) I barely ever shoot my gun, I take a Drill I or II for Guardians but on Gold with APA I can OHK lolgoons.

I never, however, thought to use the auto-aim on the bow to shoot, so perhaps I can up the DPS with a stronger shotty, (still iffy on that, even with the quicker nade regen I never seem to have enough charges, especially on the later waves,) but I've never had trouble landing 1st in Gold PuGs with at least 150k. I should add I've never tried the character on Plat because he's squishy², but I might give him a try one of these days.

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jaec91 wrote...

I've always run this guy with only a Disciple with omni blade+ ULM, for quicker grenade regen (no shotty is lighter and no other type of weapon offers omni blade.) I barely ever shoot my gun, I take a Drill I or II for Guardians but on Gold with APA I can OHK lolgoons.

I never, however, thought to use the auto-aim on the bow to shoot, so perhaps I can up the DPS with a stronger shotty, (still iffy on that, even with the quicker nade regen I never seem to have enough charges, especially on the later waves,) but I've never had trouble landing 1st in Gold PuGs with at least 150k. I should add I've never tried the character on Plat because he's squishy², but I might give him a try one of these days.


I always use the Graal Spike Thrower on him. Charge the Graal, Omni-Bow Heavy Melee, release Graal. One-shot-all-the-things!!!

And wow. I've been here for 7 months :wizard:

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Nice necro lol.

After trying several things, the I always go bsck to the Graal on him.

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jaec91 wrote...

I've always run this guy with only a Disciple with omni blade+ ULM, for quicker grenade regen (no shotty is lighter and no other type of weapon offers omni blade.) I barely ever shoot my gun, I take a Drill I or II for Guardians but on Gold with APA I can OHK lolgoons.

I never, however, thought to use the auto-aim on the bow to shoot, so perhaps I can up the DPS with a stronger shotty, (still iffy on that, even with the quicker nade regen I never seem to have enough charges, especially on the later waves,) but I've never had trouble landing 1st in Gold PuGs with at least 150k. I should add I've never tried the character on Plat because he's squishy², but I might give him a try one of these days.


I always use the Graal Spike Thrower on him. Charge the Graal, Omni-Bow Heavy Melee, release Graal. One-shot-all-the-things!!!

And wow. I've been here for 7 months :wizard:


I used the Geth Plasma Shotgun with this method.  It was pretty good when they weren't moving too fast laterally.  Didn't realize how slow the projectiles were.  I should try it with some other charge weapons.  

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Don't know if anyone else has seen this... played 2 matches in a row today on Talon and got 0 (zero) points for melee on combat challenge from Omni-bow... Anyone else?

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treksterme wrote...

Don't know if anyone else has seen this... played 2 matches in a row today on Talon and got 0 (zero) points for melee on combat challenge from Omni-bow... Anyone else?

Because the Omni-Bow is not a melee attack.

Modifié par FatherOfPearl, 30 janvier 2014 - 08:01 .


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FatherOfPearl wrote...

treksterme wrote...

Don't know if anyone else has seen this... played 2 matches in a row today on Talon and got 0 (zero) points for melee on combat challenge from Omni-bow... Anyone else?

Because the Omni-Bow is not a melee attack.

Why do they count as melee kills in the score screen then?

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FatherOfPearl wrote...

treksterme wrote...

Don't know if anyone else has seen this... played 2 matches in a row today on Talon and got 0 (zero) points for melee on combat challenge from Omni-bow... Anyone else?

Because the Omni-Bow is not a melee attack.


I must have got my 3 Combat Masteries from something else then.

I can only think of the Warlord, Brawler, EDI as my most used melee kits other than the Talon Merc and it's hard to believe 3,000,000 points came from them.

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ArgentN7 wrote...

FatherOfPearl wrote...

treksterme wrote...

Don't know if anyone else has seen this... played 2 matches in a row today on Talon and got 0 (zero) points for melee on combat challenge from Omni-bow... Anyone else?

Because the Omni-Bow is not a melee attack.


I must have got my 3 Combat Masteries from something else then.

I can only think of the Warlord, Brawler, EDI as my most used melee kits other than the Talon Merc and it's hard to believe 3,000,000 points came from them.

Hmm... I don't know. I've never goten any melee points from the Bow (and yes, I did check after each game).

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No melee points from the bow, but definitely melee kills...because reasons.

I've also seen you cleaning up with a melee GI, Argent. I think I remember intentionally getting downed in that game in hopes of getting into spectator mode to watch. But you kept picking me up!

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GrimShepherd wrote...

No melee points from the bow, but definitely melee kills...because reasons.

I've also seen you cleaning up with a melee GI, Argent. I think I remember intentionally getting downed in that game in hopes of getting into spectator mode to watch. But you kept picking me up!


lol Melee GI was my first GI, I only used him for a little while. I had to reset his powers for challenges.

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oops, double post.



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I always use the Graal Spike Thrower on him. Charge the Graal, Omni-Bow Heavy Melee, release Graal. One-shot-all-the-things!!!

And wow. I've been here for 7 months :wizard:

 

Ah, my old account.

 

Anyway, I'm tired of using the Graal on this fellow. It makes things too easy and one-note. Has anyone found a way to spice up the gameplay with this guy? Any reason to spec into Concussive Arrows at all?

 

From Fagnan's post it's clear you have to spec into power bonuses into passives and also melee bonuses in fitness. That leaves a max of 3 levels for concussive. Is that enough for mooks?



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What the hell? The best advice ever given in regards to the Talon Merc.....shelve him.


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Wat?



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Ah, my old account.

 

Anyway, I'm tired of using the Graal on this fellow. It makes things too easy and one-note. Has anyone found a way to spice up the gameplay with this guy? Any reason to spec into Concussive Arrows at all?

 

From Fagnan's post it's clear you have to spec into power bonuses into passives and also melee bonuses in fitness. That leaves a max of 3 levels for concussive. Is that enough for mooks?

Yeah : acolyte + concussive arrow. Well the acolyte isn't really a way to spice things up, but anyway... And they can save your life by disabeling phantoms and hunters.

In my opinion finding a use for AP arrows is more difficult as they ar a redundant and inferior power compared to Cain trip mines.


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Yeah : acolyte + concussive arrow. Well the acolyte isn't really a way to spice things up, but anyway... And they can save your life by disabeling phantoms and hunters.

In my opinion finding a use for AP arrows is more difficult as they ar a redundant and inferior power compared to Cain trip mines.

  Stop giving actual advice..RIGHT NOW ..Filippopotame......dude, we seriously need to give you a nick-name..also, STOP GIVING USEFUL ADVICE to people who want to play the talon...Stop encouraging them.


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  Stop giving actual advice..RIGHT NOW ..Filippopotame......dude, we seriously need to give you a nick-name..also, STOP GIVING USEFUL ADVICE to people who want to play the talon...Stop encouraging them.

Well I didn't give away the best tip : let him burn in hell ! And sure, find me a nickname ! I'll let the BSN gods choose



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Wat?


whatever you do - these things can b beasts in plat speedruns without missiles.
It gives N7+Tupari's Chakka Chakka a serious run for its money, in terms of a Diva Machine.
Let sleeping dogs lie.
If you get a BSN'er DAWG that runs with this loadout - you know you can take  relaxed moment to stroll around the nice MP environment and investigate nice wall textures, but it will take Pearl's team ideas to an ultimate low. It's probably too OP to be on gold.
 
I feel as guilty playing that, as when Germany played Brazil in football 8 July 2014.



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Yeah : acolyte + concussive arrow. Well the acolyte isn't really a way to spice things up, but anyway... And they can save your life by disabeling phantoms and hunters.

In my opinion finding a use for AP arrows is more difficult as they ar a redundant and inferior power compared to Cain trip mines.

 

Interesting point about the APs. Yeah the Cains are more powerful but I always found it inefficient to fling 4 mines at a group. First, you need to be in the perfect position, second you are out of cover, third, you need to use it on groups large enough to make spending 4 grenades worthwhile. Glacier is the perfect place for this but what about Rio? Hydra? Jade? Condor? I always spec into Cains completely but I used the flinging 4 Cains as more of an 'oh ****' button like multiple Arc Grenades.

 

I had settled into such an (efficient) rut with the charge-Graal-HeavyMelee-releaseGraal that it's hard to think of any other way to play him. Acolyte+Conc. Arrows sounds interesting.

 

whatever you do - these things can b beasts in plat speedruns without missiles.
It gives N7+Tupari's Chakka Chakka a serious run for its money, in terms of a Diva Machine.
Let sleeping dogs lie.
If you get a BSN'er DAWG that runs with this loadout - you know you can take  relaxed moment to stroll around the nice MP environment and investigate nice wall textures, but it will take Pearl's team ideas to an ultimate low. It's probably too OP to be on gold.
 
I feel as guilty playing that, as when Germany played Brazil in football 8 July 2014.

 

What's your build?


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Best "Talon Engineer Omni-Bow Tip" :   Don't use him
 

It is one of the worst designed character.  And when I had hurtfully found this out, he even made fun of me by resetting my keyboard assignment.



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What's bad about his design? Apart from the key-bindings thing.



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What's bad about his design? Apart from the key-bindings thing.

sorry, I did not read the thread, since I am in the office and don't have time.
also, my answer to your question will take longer.

But I am wondering:  
did you use him on gold or plat ?  
what's your opinion on Spawn-nuking with stacked-up Cain Trip mines ?



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Only Gold.

 

As for the other question, see a couple of posts up.