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[Seival]

Some stories are told to teach some vital lessons, or share thoughts on some very important matters. These stories are truely deep and instructive, and they cannot have happy endings. They are all bittersweet. Just like the real life.

Mass Effect Trilogy is that kind of story... To think about important things, and make your own conclusions. To test you own morality in the crucible of dire and inevitable events. To learn a lesson and find comfort in important things you understood.

To like such story is to accept and understand its main idea. You don't have to be happy after reading. But you will certainly become a little wiser.



Once again, I want to say thanks to BioWare, and especially the writers. I hope you will keep creating stories like Mass Effect Trilogy in the future no matter what some disappointed people say. The Trilogy was golden. The Ending was brilliant. You will be remembered as one of the best sci-fi storytellers.

[HiddenInWar]

Yeah....I would be lying if I said ME didn't teach me some valuable lessons.

[Brovikk Rasputin]

Well said.

[crimzontearz]

Totally....and I will still choose destroy or its equivalents in future stories by BW simply because my happiness is worth more, to me, than their art

go back under the bridge Seival

[Seival]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Well said.

Thanks

Modifié par Seival, 28 février 2013 - 08:44 .

[Hexley UK]

Seival wrote...

Some stories are told to teach some vital lessons, or share thoughts on some very important matters. These stories are truely deep and instructive, and they cannot have happy endings. They are all bittersweet. Just like the real life.

Mass Effect Trilogy is that kind of story... To think about important things, and make your own conclusions. To test you own morality in the crucible of dire and inevitable events. To learn a lesson and find comfort in important things you understood.

To like such story is to accept and understand its main idea. You don't have to be happy after reading. But you will certainly become a little wiser.



Once again, I want to say thanks to BioWare, and especially the writers. I hope you will keep creating stories like Mass Effect Trilogy in the future no matter what some disappointed people say. The Trilogy was golden. The Ending was brilliant. You will be remembered as one of the best sci-fi storytellers.

Nope.

And how does this crap make you wiser?

Explain to me what lessons you learned from this utter tripe.

Modifié par Hexley UK, 28 février 2013 - 08:50 .

[BirdsallSa]

Team BirdsallSa endorses this thread. Seival, I was wondering if you might be interested in a collaborative Full Review of Mass Effect 3 which includes all dlcs. I would invite you to join me on my Citadel review, though I promised this a while back as a solo project and everyone on the bsn is looking forward to it as such.

[Village_Idiot]

BirdsallSa wrote...

Team BirdsallSa endorses this thread. Seival, I was wondering if you might be interested in a collaborative Full Review of Mass Effect 3 which includes all dlcs. I would invite you to join me on my Citadel review, though I promised this a while back as a solo project and everyone on the bsn is looking forward to it as such.

[MattFini]

Shadrach 88 wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...

Team BirdsallSa endorses this thread. Seival, I was wondering if you might be interested in a collaborative Full Review of Mass Effect 3 which includes all dlcs. I would invite you to join me on my Citadel review, though I promised this a while back as a solo project and everyone on the bsn is looking forward to it as such.

+6000000000

[Michotic]

Actually, I thought the games were about the players making the decisions and ultimately determining the outcome. At least that's what BW told us.

I'm fine with a bitter sweet ending. It would have also been nice to include a 'bad' ending, and a 'happy' ending.

[TheProtheans]

Synthesis is a happy Disney ending, so yes Mass effect has a happy story( for a twisted few).

[tevix]

I don't honestly understand everyone's auto-hate on Seival. BirdsallSa...that's something different entirely.

Fact is he(?) makes not only a good, but highly accurate point. Think of ME1...abortion, religion, criminal groups, moral dilemmas...the game was FILLED with real life situations and gave you the opportunity to solve them the way you would really like to, essentially consequence free. It only advanced on this topic with the squadmate chats and missions in ME2. And of course ME3 was set during full scale war which can pose some very gruesome questions.

Bravo, Seival.

[Kel Riever]

Yes, OP, but ONCE AGAIN, it seems to need to be explained to you that unhappy endings that are well written and provide choice are not what ME 3 provides you.

What ME 3 provides you is a product that is a piece of garbage regardless of the ending not being happy.

[Jenonax]

Yes the mix up of theme, the plot holes and lore errors certainly made me a lot wiser. Also realizing that the only way to win is to agree with my enemy and commit genocide, become a dictator or embark on galaxy wide, immoral eugenics with no ones consent really absolutely made me think, but not about whatever 'lesson' Bioware wanted me to learn.

[Seival]

BirdsallSa wrote...

Team BirdsallSa endorses this thread. Seival, I was wondering if you might be interested in a collaborative Full Review of Mass Effect 3 which includes all dlcs. I would invite you to join me on my Citadel review, though I promised this a while back as a solo project and everyone on the bsn is looking forward to it as such.

To make detailed positive review about the entire Trilogy is very good idea. The task is very time-consuming though. I will help, if I will have time for this.

[Kel Riever]

Seival wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...

Team BirdsallSa endorses this thread. Seival, I was wondering if you might be interested in a collaborative Full Review of Mass Effect 3 which includes all dlcs. I would invite you to join me on my Citadel review, though I promised this a while back as a solo project and everyone on the bsn is looking forward to it as such.

To make detailed positive review about the entire Trilogy is very good idea. The task is very time-consuming though. I will help, if I will have time for this.

Wow.  *slow clap*

[MECavScout01]

I believe that this is also supposed to be an RPG. I roleplay a happy ending for Shepard, like he deserves. I'm paying for it. I have the right to be satisfied by it. I'll be satisfied with it if I can end it happily, like I worked towards from the beginning.

[Sentient6]

I agree. Or rather I would, if the ending wasn't presented so badly. So yeah, the sentiment's there, but not the execution.

[Argolas]

I strongly disagree. Of course I don't want to put words into Bioware's mouths, but I am sure if you asked them if they wanted to deliver a massage, test your morality or something like that with Mass Effect, you would get a clear "No."

Feel free to correct me if you are from Bioware or know of any Interviews that say otherwise.

Modifié par Argolas, 28 février 2013 - 09:06 .

[Dabrikishaw]

Can't you people come up with new strawman arguments? These are getting quite played out.

[F4H bandicoot]

The endings aren't bad because they aren't happy.

They're bad for a number of other reasons.

Modifié par F4H bandicoot, 28 février 2013 - 09:03 .

[BirdsallSa]

Argolas wrote...

I strongly disagree. Of course I don't want to put words into Bioware's moths, but I am sure if you asked them if they wanted to deliver a massage, test your morality or something like that with Mass Effect, you would get a clear "No."

Feel free to correct me if you are from Bioware or know of any Interviews that say otherwise.

I can confirm that it was without a doubt Bioware's mission to make the player really consider consequences when making a decision. Seeing those consequences play out and knowing that you impacted the universe on a galactic scale is what makes Mass Effect 3 the adventure of an era.

[Felya87]

glad you had what you wanted.

Still, I don't find the sweet in all the bitter of the endings of ME3.

and in real life, sometimes you win. Without need to sacrifice anything in particular. Just doing whatever is in your ability is enough. Strange, eh?
because, really, what is the sense in fight, think, work for something if you can't, in any way, realize your objective?(and, of course, enjoy it)
Sometimes you can loose, but sometimes, you win. without compromise. Is the more difficult road. Always.

THAT is the reality of life.

Win not at every cost. But win without compromise. Is the most difficult path of all. but, sometimes, it can be made.

[MattFini]

BirdsallSa wrote...

I can confirm...

Stopped reading there. 

[TheProtheans]

F4H bandicoot wrote...

The endings aren't bad because they aren't happy.

They're bad for a number of other reasons.

Sevial is a troll, he can't hear.
A lot of vocal pro-enders are trolls, they just ignore facts.