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[Argolas]

I recommend discussing Team BirdsallSa in the groups section.

[Red Panda]

Eterna5 wrote...

People are so mean to Seival.

And it's quite sad.

The things people say under the guise of being anonymous.

[BirdsallSa]

F4H bandicoot wrote...

inko1nsiderate wrote...

 Breaking News: BirdsallSa is a troll.

Just for the lazy people

http://puu.sh/2atdi

I'll admit that before the extended cut, I couldn't comprehend the ending. After several months of contemplation, however, and reading posts like Seival's ending support threads I really began to understand how great they were. I'm not proud of that post, but I don't deny it happened. I believe that my time as an ending hater helped me become who I am today, which is a devout supporter and defender of Bioware's crown jewel.

[3DandBeyond]

Let me reiterate this:

TheRealJayDee wrote...

I strongly encourage everyone to abandon this thread and refrain from further "discussion" with BirdsallSa.

as well as this, though I would rather word it differently so I changed it:

inko1nsiderate wrote...

 Breaking News: BirdsallSa speaking out against the endings.

[3DandBeyond]

BirdsallSa wrote...

F4H bandicoot wrote...

inko1nsiderate wrote...

 Breaking News: BirdsallSa is a troll.

Just for the lazy people

http://puu.sh/2atdi

I'll admit that before the extended cut, I couldn't comprehend the ending. After several months of contemplation, however, and reading posts like Seival's ending support threads I really began to understand how great they were. I'm not proud of that post, but I don't deny it happened. I believe that my time as an ending hater helped me become who I am today, which is a devout supporter and defender of Bioware's crown jewel.

It's time to tell the truth, BirdsallSa, tell Seival you have been making fun of him and tell everyone you have been attacking them in order to try and make fun of Seival.

[F4H bandicoot]

BirdsallSa wrote...

F4H bandicoot wrote...

inko1nsiderate wrote...

 Breaking News: BirdsallSa is a troll.

Just for the lazy people

http://puu.sh/2atdi

I'll admit that before the extended cut, I couldn't comprehend the ending. After several months of contemplation, however, and reading posts like Seival's ending support threads I really began to understand how great they were. I'm not proud of that post, but I don't deny it happened. I believe that my time as an ending hater helped me become who I am today, which is a devout supporter and defender of Bioware's crown jewel.

[mvaning]

BirdsallSa wrote...


I'll admit that before the extended cut, I couldn't comprehend the ending. After several months of contemplation, however, and reading posts like Seival's ending support threads I really began to understand how great they were. I'm not proud of that post, but I don't deny it happened. I believe that my time as an ending hater helped me become who I am today, which is a devout supporter and defender of Bioware's crown jewel.

Yeah, you also said that you didn't come to the forums until well after the forums blew up over the endings.    Anti-ender propaganda?  yes yes?

[3DandBeyond]

mvaning wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...


I'll admit that before the extended cut, I couldn't comprehend the ending. After several months of contemplation, however, and reading posts like Seival's ending support threads I really began to understand how great they were. I'm not proud of that post, but I don't deny it happened. I believe that my time as an ending hater helped me become who I am today, which is a devout supporter and defender of Bioware's crown jewel.

Yeah, you also said that you didn't come to the forums until well after the forums blew up over the endings.    Anti-ender propaganda?  yes yes?

It was a game to start this real aggressive sort of discussion and to hook Seival so he could make him look stupid.  Well, sure I may laugh at and dislike what Seival says and I may vehemently disagree with Seival in my replies to him, but I have never nor would I ever deceive him into thinking I agree with him in order to make fun of him.  I may not respect much of what he says or does, but I respect that he is a human being who has feelings.


I don't like liars and I don't like being part of a lie meant to laugh at someone.  This is about more than just a stupid game's endings-and you don't treat real people that way.

Modifié par 3DandBeyond, 01 mars 2013 - 10:17 .

[Seival]

mvaning wrote...

Seival wrote...

DetcelferVisionary wrote...

Clearly, some think that a bad ending must mean it's artistic. There are lots of bittersweet endings, Notebook or another recently provided example of The Mist are ended masterfully. ME3's ending on the other hand is just a slap to the face. It's not what we came to see. We had a good idea from trailers and synopsis of what we were getting with Notebook and The Mist.

Relevant slap to a face is a nice way to wake someone up for thinking about some important things. The problem is that some people consider relevant slap to a face as a personal insult, and consider the one who performed it as an enemy.

Yes, ME3 ending is relevant slap to a face. And you should not hate BioWare and ME3 for that. You should think, and make constructive conclusions. "It's not what we came to see" is a childish statement. Lessons and tests are not always pleasent.

I would like to hear your opinion on how you think ME3 is a relevant slap to a face.

My own reaction is a perfect example. Initially I was stunned and confused by the ending. I was deeply depressed, and wanted to cry. Several weeks later I decided (not without some friendly people help) that thinking about the ending is better than crying about the ending. Later almost full understanding of the ending came, and I realized that it was brilliant. That was before EC.

The ending was pure relevant slap to my face, and I'm greatful for that. BioWare writers did the great job. They forced me to think about important things, and remember good old sci-fi books I like so much.

Modifié par Seival, 01 mars 2013 - 10:33 .

[XqctaX]

BirdsallSa wrote...

tevix wrote...

@BirdsallSa

"I treat people decently who treat me decently" (Or however that exactly was worded)

Answer: No you don't. I have tried on repeated occasions to be respectful towards you, even agreeing with one of your points. You still attack, insult and make accusations against me.

So, no not really.

ffs. Tevix I hold no ill will against you. I have simply been very hotheaded as of late, because there is a conspiracy against me on the bsn. Are we good?

i have a "saying" I think you should reflect on bird. and it goes like this.

if you meet an idiot in the morning, you meet an idiot in the morning.

but if you meet idiots all day long, mabey you are the idiot.

[Seival]

3DandBeyond wrote...

It's time to tell the truth, BirdsallSa, tell Seival you have been making fun of him and tell everyone you have been attacking them in order to try and make fun of Seival.

I don't care about what people are doing behind my back unless it threatens my safety. People are free to laugh at me any time. They say laughing prolongs life

Your attempts to provoke fighting are pathetic.

Modifié par Seival, 01 mars 2013 - 10:47 .

[Peranor]

I'm still not sure if it's sad or funny that Seival's biggest supporter turned out to be just a troll that has been working against him from the start and done his absolute best to derail the thread by posting inflammatory posts filled with lies?

[mvaning]

Seival wrote...

My own reaction is a perfect example. Initially I was stunned and confused by the ending. I was deeply depressed, and wanted to cry. Several weeks later I decided (not without some friendly people help) realise that thinking about the ending is better than crying about the ending. Later almost full understanding of the ending came, and I realized that it was brilliant. That was before EC.

The ending was pure relevant slap to my face, and I'm greatful for that. BioWare writers did the great job. They forced me to think about important things, and remember good old sci-fi books I like so much.

Yes but what was your "full understanding"?     Why did it make you cry and how was it a relevant slap to the face rather than just a slap to the face?

[SpamBot2000]

anorling wrote...



I'm still not sure if it's sad or funny that Seival's biggest supporter turned out to be just a troll that has been working against him from the start and done his absolute best to derail the thread by posting inflammatory posts filled with lies?

Perfect example of "bitterfunny".

[Doctor_Jackstraw]

Theres more than happy and sad to endings.

in ME3 I felt proud, for instance

[BirdsallSa]

People are free to believe whatever they want. However, they should know the full story. 3d and I were once friends. I considered her an incredible friend and a good person. Word was spread that she was talking about me behind my back. Whether this is true or not is speculative. She has since insulted me in every thread and is now trying to discredit me.

Whatever I once was as an anti-ender as seival calls it, I am ashamed of it. However, this is my redemption. I have spoken to Seival about this in private and we have resolved it. I will continue to serve justice on the bsn, my Citadel review will be released on schedule, and our collaborative review of the trilogy will be released shortly after.

That is all

[SpamBot2000]

Not sounding like a cult at all.

[Seival]

mvaning wrote...

Seival wrote...

My own reaction is a perfect example. Initially I was stunned and confused by the ending. I was deeply depressed, and wanted to cry. Several weeks later I decided (not without some friendly people help) realise that thinking about the ending is better than crying about the ending. Later almost full understanding of the ending came, and I realized that it was brilliant. That was before EC.

The ending was pure relevant slap to my face, and I'm greatful for that. BioWare writers did the great job. They forced me to think about important things, and remember good old sci-fi books I like so much.

Yes but what was your "full understanding"?     Why did it make you cry and how was it a relevant slap to the face rather than just a slap to the face?

The slap was relevant because I didn't think about things I should think about before the slap and started to think about them after the slap.

What was the full understanding? I understood what authors wanted to say even before EC. And I'm really proud of it.

[3DandBeyond]

Seival wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

It's time to tell the truth, BirdsallSa, tell Seival you have been making fun of him and tell everyone you have been attacking them in order to try and make fun of Seival.

I don't care about what people are doing behind my back unless in threatens my safety. People are free to laugh at me any time. They say laughing prolongs life

Your attempts to provoke fighting are pathetic.

Seival, I'm not trying to provoke fighting, but I don't expect you to understand this.  BirdsallSa does not agree with you and is appearing to in order to ridicule you.  He is provoking arguments with people that dislike the endings in order for you to think he agrees with you.  He stated this in PMs to me and like a fool I did nothing to stop him.  He has been using hostility towards others in order for you to think he actually thinks you are something he does not believe.  At some point, he apparently intended for you to find out and feel shame or be hurt or I don't know what.

I am asking him to stop this and I don't  care if you think this is the right thing.  I know it is.  If he does not, I will advise mods because Of other things I do know as well.  He is trying to keep aggressive and antagonistic debate going in order to eventually hurt you.  I'm revealing this, not for you, but in order to relieve my own conscience.  To do what I think is the right thing.  It isn't just you he is making fun of, it is anyone who liked the endings.  He knew you'd believe him.

[mvaning]

Seival wrote...

mvaning wrote...

Seival wrote...

My own reaction is a perfect example. Initially I was stunned and confused by the ending. I was deeply depressed, and wanted to cry. Several weeks later I decided (not without some friendly people help) realise that thinking about the ending is better than crying about the ending. Later almost full understanding of the ending came, and I realized that it was brilliant. That was before EC.

The ending was pure relevant slap to my face, and I'm greatful for that. BioWare writers did the great job. They forced me to think about important things, and remember good old sci-fi books I like so much.

Yes but what was your "full understanding"?     Why did it make you cry and how was it a relevant slap to the face rather than just a slap to the face?

The slap was relevant because I didn't think about things I should think about before the slap and started to think about them after the slap.

What was the full understanding? I understood what authors wanted to say even before EC. And I'm really proud of it.

So now.. does your good experience with the game discredit the opinions of those who don't have good experiences with the ending? 

Do you believe that your bias, based on your experience, represent the majority of the ME3 banfase?

[BirdsallSa]

Seival wrote...

mvaning wrote...

Seival wrote...

My own reaction is a perfect example. Initially I was stunned and confused by the ending. I was deeply depressed, and wanted to cry. Several weeks later I decided (not without some friendly people help) realise that thinking about the ending is better than crying about the ending. Later almost full understanding of the ending came, and I realized that it was brilliant. That was before EC.

The ending was pure relevant slap to my face, and I'm greatful for that. BioWare writers did the great job. They forced me to think about important things, and remember good old sci-fi books I like so much.

Yes but what was your "full understanding"?     Why did it make you cry and how was it a relevant slap to the face rather than just a slap to the face?

The slap was relevant because I didn't think about things I should think about before the slap and started to think about them after the slap.

What was the full understanding? I understood what authors wanted to say even before EC. And I'm really proud of it.

Now I will share my experience. When I first played the game, I was more left empty by the game than anything. However, when I reached out online for answers, I was bombarded by universal hate. I realize now that it was only influence of others that caused me to hate the game so much. I have since re-evaluated my stance on the game. Over time, I came to realize that anti-enders use no logic, no facts, no sense of honor in their dealings with others. They don't seek what's right they seek what benefits them. Through those lessons, I came to appreciate the ending, and over time Team BirdsallSa was born.

[3DandBeyond]

BirdsallSa wrote...

People are free to believe whatever they want. However, they should know the full story. 3d and I were once friends. I considered her an incredible friend and a good person. Word was spread that she was talking about me behind my back. Whether this is true or not is speculative. She has since insulted me in every thread and is now trying to discredit me.

Whatever I once was as an anti-ender as seival calls it, I am ashamed of it. However, this is my redemption. I have spoken to Seival about this in private and we have resolved it. I will continue to serve justice on the bsn, my Citadel review will be released on schedule, and our collaborative review of the trilogy will be released shortly after.

That is all

Please let everyone know your alternate identity.  Please tell them you are plfranke and that you created this persona when you were banned and then decided to use this in order to make fun of pro-enders.   I have not insulted you at all and everyone is free to look back and see the truth of that.

[tevix]

@Seival

If you don't care about something as malicious as people making fun of you behind your back..

Why did I get attacked for something as miniscule as having a couple of nitpicks about the ending?

[froot of the loom]

Dabrikishaw wrote...

Can't you people come up with new strawman arguments? These are getting quite played out.

we are friends now

[Seival]

mvaning wrote...

Seival wrote...

mvaning wrote...

Seival wrote...

My own reaction is a perfect example. Initially I was stunned and confused by the ending. I was deeply depressed, and wanted to cry. Several weeks later I decided (not without some friendly people help) realise that thinking about the ending is better than crying about the ending. Later almost full understanding of the ending came, and I realized that it was brilliant. That was before EC.

The ending was pure relevant slap to my face, and I'm greatful for that. BioWare writers did the great job. They forced me to think about important things, and remember good old sci-fi books I like so much.

Yes but what was your "full understanding"?     Why did it make you cry and how was it a relevant slap to the face rather than just a slap to the face?

The slap was relevant because I didn't think about things I should think about before the slap and started to think about them after the slap.

What was the full understanding? I understood what authors wanted to say even before EC. And I'm really proud of it.

So now.. does your good experience with the game discredit the opinions of those who don't have good experiences with the ending? 

Do you believe that your bias, based on your experience, represent the majority of the ME3 banfase?

My good experience with the game discredits hate and "restaurant behaviour" of anti-enders. And it doesn't discredit constructive opinions, which anti-enders never had. There are pro-enders, who don't actually like how the ending was executed, you know? They've dealed with it, and they don't demand anything. They've voiced their opinions, and found their ways to get satisfaction from the ending. They create no disturbance, and not trying to derail support threads.