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BirdsallSa wrote...

anorling wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...

You people act like just because a couple of bad things happen to you here and there, that everything we watch and read should be happy to make up for it. You clearly can't have too much to worry about if you're on a fan website complaining about a game that's been out for a year.

If you want literature that can teach you something, that is melancholic, deep, intelligent, thought provoking and all that there's plenty of it to be had out there.

Mass Effect never was any of this. And people who got in to the story never got in to it expecting it to be anything like that either.
That is the problem. In the last chapter Bioware tried to turn the story in to something it wasn't meant to be, and it failed, miserably. That is what people is upset about.

Look we're not talking about Mass Effect 1, Mass Effect 2, the comics, none of that. We're talking about the ending of mass effect 3 so don't try to derail the subject by going off to what people wanted when they started the trilogy. It doesn't matter what they wanted. What about what Bioware wanted? They clearly had an artistic vision that involved teaching the masses something about victory through peace, understanding and sacrifice, and if you didn't appreciate that, you didn't have to buy. Sorry that it wasn't the call of duty shoot out ice cream social that you wanted, but that isn't Bioware's problem and it isn't mine either.

What artistic vision was that, was it the one that changed with each installment of the trilogy, whatever Bioware's vision was when they made ME1 it was not the same when they made ME3, the Mass Effect trilogy has to be one of the worst, planned out trilogies I have ever witnessed in any type of media.

Also of all the games in the ME trilogy, the most like COD is ME3. Hell its barely an RPG anymore.

Modifié par DinoSteve, 01 mars 2013 - 02:26 .

[Almostfaceman]

BirdsallSa wrote...

You people act like just because a couple of bad things happen to you here and there, that everything we watch and read should be happy to make up for it. You clearly can't have too much to worry about if you're on a fan website complaining about a game that's been out for a year.

"You people don't like what I like. Whaaaaah." That's your argument. 

Go help a buddy clean out their garage and then use the experience as a metaphor in learning how to make room for other people's opinions. 

[BirdsallSa]

DinoSteve wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...

anorling wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...

You people act like just because a couple of bad things happen to you here and there, that everything we watch and read should be happy to make up for it. You clearly can't have too much to worry about if you're on a fan website complaining about a game that's been out for a year.

If you want literature that can teach you something, that is melancholic, deep, intelligent, thought provoking and all that there's plenty of it to be had out there.

Mass Effect never was any of this. And people who got in to the story never got in to it expecting it to be anything like that either.
That is the problem. In the last chapter Bioware tried to turn the story in to something it wasn't meant to be, and it failed, miserably. That is what people is upset about.

Look we're not talking about Mass Effect 1, Mass Effect 2, the comics, none of that. We're talking about the ending of mass effect 3 so don't try to derail the subject by going off to what people wanted when they started the trilogy. It doesn't matter what they wanted. What about what Bioware wanted? They clearly had an artistic vision that involved teaching the masses something about victory through peace, understanding and sacrifice, and if you didn't appreciate that, you didn't have to buy. Sorry that it wasn't the call of duty shoot out ice cream social that you wanted, but that isn't Bioware's problem and it isn't mine either.

What artistic vision was that, was it the one that changed with each installment of the trilogy, whatever Bioware's vision was when they made ME1 it was not the same when they made ME3, the Mass Effect trilogy has to be one of the worst, planned out trilogies I have ever witnessed in any type of media.

And to solve it, you're going to whine for how many more years?

[Peranor]

BirdsallSa wrote...

anorling wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...

You people act like just because a couple of bad things happen to you here and there, that everything we watch and read should be happy to make up for it. You clearly can't have too much to worry about if you're on a fan website complaining about a game that's been out for a year.

If you want literature that can teach you something, that is melancholic, deep, intelligent, thought provoking and all that there's plenty of it to be had out there.

Mass Effect never was any of this. And people who got in to the story never got in to it expecting it to be anything like that either.
That is the problem. In the last chapter Bioware tried to turn the story in to something it wasn't meant to be, and it failed, miserably. That is what people is upset about.

Look we're not talking about Mass Effect 1, Mass Effect 2, the comics, none of that. We're talking about the ending of mass effect 3 so don't try to derail the subject by going off to what people wanted when they started the trilogy. It doesn't matter what they wanted. What about what Bioware wanted? They clearly had an artistic vision that involved teaching the masses something about victory through peace, understanding and sacrifice, and if you didn't appreciate that, you didn't have to buy. Sorry that it wasn't the call of duty shoot out ice cream social that you wanted, but that isn't Bioware's problem and it isn't mine either.

Don't be ridiculous.

[Almostfaceman]

DinoSteve wrote...

I agree with this, there have been at least five games, that have been released and are to be released this year, that I would have normally preordered and haven't, I'm just going to wait till they are cheap.

Devil May Cry
Metal Gear Solid: Revengeance
Crysis 3
Dead Space 3
Bioshock: Infinite

Total Bisquit would be proud of you. So am I. 

We all need to learn that buying these games before finding out whether they suck or not is just smart consumer spending. 

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BirdsallSa wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...

anorling wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...

You people act like just because a couple of bad things happen to you here and there, that everything we watch and read should be happy to make up for it. You clearly can't have too much to worry about if you're on a fan website complaining about a game that's been out for a year.

If you want literature that can teach you something, that is melancholic, deep, intelligent, thought provoking and all that there's plenty of it to be had out there.

Mass Effect never was any of this. And people who got in to the story never got in to it expecting it to be anything like that either.
That is the problem. In the last chapter Bioware tried to turn the story in to something it wasn't meant to be, and it failed, miserably. That is what people is upset about.

Look we're not talking about Mass Effect 1, Mass Effect 2, the comics, none of that. We're talking about the ending of mass effect 3 so don't try to derail the subject by going off to what people wanted when they started the trilogy. It doesn't matter what they wanted. What about what Bioware wanted? They clearly had an artistic vision that involved teaching the masses something about victory through peace, understanding and sacrifice, and if you didn't appreciate that, you didn't have to buy. Sorry that it wasn't the call of duty shoot out ice cream social that you wanted, but that isn't Bioware's problem and it isn't mine either.

What artistic vision was that, was it the one that changed with each installment of the trilogy, whatever Bioware's vision was when they made ME1 it was not the same when they made ME3, the Mass Effect trilogy has to be one of the worst, planned out trilogies I have ever witnessed in any type of media.

And to solve it, you're going to whine for how many more years?

Good come back, I guess thats me told, its nice having a discussion with you.

[BirdsallSa]

Almostfaceman wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...

You people act like just because a couple of bad things happen to you here and there, that everything we watch and read should be happy to make up for it. You clearly can't have too much to worry about if you're on a fan website complaining about a game that's been out for a year.

"You people don't like what I like. Whaaaaah." That's your argument. 

Go help a buddy clean out their garage and then use the experience as a metaphor in learning how to make room for other people's opinions. 

That's funny. I thought it was everyone else here who is crying because Seival isn't hating something a year after release along with the rest of the sheep. Everyone's always going on and on about me not listening or Bioware not listening. We don't need your opinions, because we have facts. You should go and learn a little something about them.

Majority of fans like the ending -Fact: Jessica Merizan
Mass Effect 3 is game of the year -Fact: Multiple Reputable Gaming Organizations
Everyone Who Disagrees Is In Denial -Fact: Team BirdsallSa

[Peranor]

Almostfaceman wrote...

drayfish wrote...


Thank you for the lesson Bioware.

You've shown me that diversity and unity are an empty, hopeless lie. The only way to stop intollerance and fear is through genocide, totalitarianism, or eugenics. And if people don't believe that, they should die, and watch everyone they loved slaughtered because they were a coward.

What a beautiful message.

Word.

Indeed

[Argolas]

Let me oversimplify the issue: I expect a game to reward me when I do well and punish me when I screw up. When I do well and finish the game, but the ending is not rewarding but frustrating, I call that a bad ending.

And just to be clear what I mean by bad: A happy ending can be good, a sad ending can be good, a bad ending is just bad.

[BirdsallSa]

Argolas wrote...

Let me oversimplify the issue: I expect a game to reward me when I do well and punish me when I screw up. When I do well and finish the game, but the ending is not rewarding but frustrating, I call that a bad ending.

And just to be clear what I mean by bad: A happy ending can be good, a sad ending can be good, a bad ending is just bad.

So whenever you don't like something, you call it a bad ending. Have you ever taken a look in the mirror and called yourself a bad player?

[JPR1964]

anorling wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

drayfish wrote...


Thank you for the lesson Bioware.

You've shown me that diversity and unity are an empty, hopeless lie. The only way to stop intollerance and fear is through genocide, totalitarianism, or eugenics. And if people don't believe that, they should die, and watch everyone they loved slaughtered because they were a coward.

What a beautiful message.

Word.

Indeed

So well said...

JPR out!

Modifié par JPR1964, 01 mars 2013 - 02:32 .

[Icinix]

You can still teach a lesson or ask a moral question and have an ending make sense in the context of the game.

What they were trying to do missed its mark because it failed that.

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BirdsallSa wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...

You people act like just because a couple of bad things happen to you here and there, that everything we watch and read should be happy to make up for it. You clearly can't have too much to worry about if you're on a fan website complaining about a game that's been out for a year.

"You people don't like what I like. Whaaaaah." That's your argument. 

Go help a buddy clean out their garage and then use the experience as a metaphor in learning how to make room for other people's opinions. 

That's funny. I thought it was everyone else here who is crying because Seival isn't hating something a year after release along with the rest of the sheep. Everyone's always going on and on about me not listening or Bioware not listening. We don't need your opinions, because we have facts. You should go and learn a little something about them.

Majority of fans like the ending -Fact: Jessica Merizan
Mass Effect 3 is game of the year -Fact: Multiple Reputable Gaming Organizations
Everyone Who Disagrees Is In Denial -Fact: Team BirdsallSa

Ugh!

Almostfaceman wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

I agree with this, there have been at least five games, that have been released and are to be released this year, that I would have normally preordered and haven't, I'm just going to wait till they are cheap.

Devil May Cry
Metal Gear Solid: Revengeance
Crysis 3
Dead Space 3
Bioshock: Infinite

Total Bisquit would be proud of you. So am I. 

We all need to learn that buying these games before finding out whether they suck or not is just smart consumer spending. 

I'm struggling not to preorder Bioshock: Infinite

Modifié par DinoSteve, 01 mars 2013 - 02:34 .

[Almostfaceman]

BirdsallSa wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...

You people act like just because a couple of bad things happen to you here and there, that everything we watch and read should be happy to make up for it. You clearly can't have too much to worry about if you're on a fan website complaining about a game that's been out for a year.

"You people don't like what I like. Whaaaaah." That's your argument. 

Go help a buddy clean out their garage and then use the experience as a metaphor in learning how to make room for other people's opinions. 

That's funny. I thought it was everyone else here who is crying because Seival isn't hating something a year after release along with the rest of the sheep. Everyone's always going on and on about me not listening or Bioware not listening. We don't need your opinions, because we have facts. You should go and learn a little something about them.

Majority of fans like the ending -Fact: Jessica Merizan
Mass Effect 3 is game of the year -Fact: Multiple Reputable Gaming Organizations
Everyone Who Disagrees Is In Denial -Fact: Team BirdsallSa

Not that there's any facts to back up the majority statement but to continue your logic... because a lot of people believe something means we all should believe something? There's billions of Muslims out there should we all convert?

Again, "Shut up and agree with me." is your argument. 

[Almostfaceman]

DinoSteve wrote...

I'm struggling not to preorder Bioshock: Infinite

Be strong. Hold the line. 

Modifié par Almostfaceman, 01 mars 2013 - 02:36 .

[mvaning]

JPR1964 wrote...

anorling wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

drayfish wrote...


Thank you for the lesson Bioware.

You've shown me that diversity and unity are an empty, hopeless lie. The only way to stop intollerance and fear is through genocide, totalitarianism, or eugenics. And if people don't believe that, they should die, and watch everyone they loved slaughtered because they were a coward.

What a beautiful message.

Word.

Indeed

So well said...

JPR out!

and hope lies somewhere between eugenics and totalitarianism.  

"You have hope, more hope than you know" -- The Catalyst.    What a great message.    Next month I'm going to have sugery so that I can become the Aryan I always wanted to be!

[adayaday]

I know its fun but stop feeding the troll...

[BirdsallSa]

Almostfaceman wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...

You people act like just because a couple of bad things happen to you here and there, that everything we watch and read should be happy to make up for it. You clearly can't have too much to worry about if you're on a fan website complaining about a game that's been out for a year.

"You people don't like what I like. Whaaaaah." That's your argument. 

Go help a buddy clean out their garage and then use the experience as a metaphor in learning how to make room for other people's opinions. 

That's funny. I thought it was everyone else here who is crying because Seival isn't hating something a year after release along with the rest of the sheep. Everyone's always going on and on about me not listening or Bioware not listening. We don't need your opinions, because we have facts. You should go and learn a little something about them.

Majority of fans like the ending -Fact: Jessica Merizan
Mass Effect 3 is game of the year -Fact: Multiple Reputable Gaming Organizations
Everyone Who Disagrees Is In Denial -Fact: Team BirdsallSa

Not that there's any facts to back up the majority statement but to continue your logic... because a lot of people believe something means we all should believe something? There's billions of Muslims out there should we all convert?

Again, "Shut up and agree with me." is your argument. 

Eh sorry guys I've been off my a game a bit lately. Too much hate in my posts and not enough of classic BirdsallSa. I will be back in top form for my review on Tuesday. Again, apolgoies.

[Peranor]

Arcian wrote...

Seival wrote...

Some stories are told to teach some vital lessons, or share thoughts on some very important matters. These stories are truely deep and instructive, and they cannot have happy endings. They are all bittersweet. Just like the real life.

Mass Effect Trilogy is that kind of story... To think about important things, and make your own conclusions. To test you own morality in the crucible of dire and inevitable events. To learn a lesson and find comfort in important things you understood.

To like such story is to accept and understand its main idea. You don't have to be happy after reading. But you will certainly become a little wiser.



Once again, I want to say thanks to BioWare, and especially the writers. I hope you will keep creating stories like Mass Effect Trilogy in the future no matter what some disappointed people say. The Trilogy was golden. The Ending was brilliant. You will be remembered as one of the best sci-fi storytellers.

Oh god I am drowning in all this pretentious hipster garbage.

Pretentious hipster garbage indeed.

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BirdsallSa wrote...

Eh sorry guys I've been off my a game a bit lately. Too much hate in my posts and not enough of classic BirdsallSa. I will be back in top form for my review on Tuesday. Again, apolgoies.

Where you the person who started a thread, then had to apologise to everyone in that thread, maybe it was someone else.

Modifié par DinoSteve, 01 mars 2013 - 02:50 .

[BirdsallSa]

DinoSteve wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...

Eh sorry guys I've been off my a game a bit lately. Too much hate in my posts and not enough of classic BirdsallSa. I will be back in top form for my review on Tuesday. Again, apolgoies.

Where you the person who started a thread, then had to apologise to everyone in that thread, maybe it was someone else.

No. I would never apologize to people in my own thread. If something went wrong it was probably their fault.

[Argolas]

BirdsallSa wrote...

Argolas wrote...

Let me oversimplify the issue: I expect a game to reward me when I do well and punish me when I screw up. When I do well and finish the game, but the ending is not rewarding but frustrating, I call that a bad ending.

And just to be clear what I mean by bad: A happy ending can be good, a sad ending can be good, a bad ending is just bad.

So whenever you don't like something, you call it a bad ending. Have you ever taken a look in the mirror and called yourself a bad player?

If it was just me, yeah. Maybe you missed the sh!tstorm the ending caused.

[BirdsallSa]

Argolas wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...

Argolas wrote...

Let me oversimplify the issue: I expect a game to reward me when I do well and punish me when I screw up. When I do well and finish the game, but the ending is not rewarding but frustrating, I call that a bad ending.

And just to be clear what I mean by bad: A happy ending can be good, a sad ending can be good, a bad ending is just bad.

So whenever you don't like something, you call it a bad ending. Have you ever taken a look in the mirror and called yourself a bad player?

If it was just me, yeah. Maybe you missed the sh!tstorm the ending caused.

I didn't reach the forums until after this alleged storm. I personally don't believe it. I think it's just more propganda from the anti-ender machine designed to make it look like they are justified in hating such a great piece of work. I arrived on the scene just in time to face off against the few left commiting injustice on the bsn.

[SiriusXI]

BirdsallSa wrote...

Argolas wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...

Argolas wrote...

Let me oversimplify the issue: I expect a game to reward me when I do well and punish me when I screw up. When I do well and finish the game, but the ending is not rewarding but frustrating, I call that a bad ending.

And just to be clear what I mean by bad: A happy ending can be good, a sad ending can be good, a bad ending is just bad.

So whenever you don't like something, you call it a bad ending. Have you ever taken a look in the mirror and called yourself a bad player?

If it was just me, yeah. Maybe you missed the sh!tstorm the ending caused.

I didn't reach the forums until after this alleged storm. I personally don't believe it. I think it's just more propganda from the anti-ender machine designed to make it look like they are justified in hating such a great piece of work. I arrived on the scene just in time to face off against the few left commiting injustice on the bsn.

Haha, you really thing ME3s ending is a "great piece of work"? I hope you'll never work within the field of movie making, literature, videogame developement and so on. We do not need another "great piece of work" like this.