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[die-yng]

After the announcement for the Citadel DLC, I started thinking.

If you add up all the SIngle Player DLC, you'd have to pay almost 50 bucks to own every one of them.
That's very close to what the full game cost at some retailers on the first day it was available.
Now, if you add the playtime together you get what? 6 hours + however long the Citadel DLC will be, which is probably not more than 3-4 hours top (and that's generous, you could probably play through them faster).

The whole game is around 25-30 hours of gameplay, if you really do everything.

So basically you almost pay the same amount for around 10 hours of gameplay that you paid for 30 hours.
And that's when the gamemechanics and everything are already in place and you only have to add whatever new games into the DLC, which isn't very much most of the time, if you think about it.

I know, it's that way with DLC's for most games, but I believe we seldom really think about what a bad deal that actually is.

Especially, and that's where it get's really annoying for me, when the DLC for ME2 was much, much cheaper.
Prices are up at least one third over the ME2 DLC's and that is not even counting how much of the ME2 DLC you got for free when you bought the game new (instead of maybe getting a second hand game)-

I don't think it's a fair price hike, especially when prices for the games itself barely changed from ME 2 to ME 3.

From that I continued my line of thought and hit the Free Extended Ending DLC. I thought it was pretty generous and a real nice attempt to reconcile with the majority of fans, after the trainwreck of an ending.
But now I wonder, maybe it was free, but does EA/ Bioware now try to get some of that lost money back, by making the paid DLC's especially expensive?
Maybe Citadel and Omega would have cost 12.- Dollars if it weren't for the EC DLC?
Please do consider that the equipment and appearances packs cost the same as the ones for ME2 did.

What are your thoughts on this?  Am I wrong about it? Did I make a mistake somewhere? Is DLC programming far more expensive than I thought possible?

[HenkieDePost]

Meh, not really too expensive tbh. The problem for me is that Origin doesn't provide a good paying platform for me and alot of other Dutch users. I wanted to actually buy all those great DLC's, simply because they hold key elements regarding the story (Leviathan as the biggest example), but I don't have a creditcard and I don't want to fill in all those forms. I can pay with "Ideal" on steam, which makes buying games and dlc easy as hell, so why can't I on origin? They are worth the money, if you can actually spend it.

[phillip100]

I think that Omega was definitely overpriced. Not going to say whether Citadel is overpriced or not until I play through the entire thing.

Modifié par phillip100, 01 mars 2013 - 02:52 .

[Sanunes]

Before Omega I thought all their DLC was reasonably priced based on what other companies are charging for their. The only reason to me what Omega didn't feel worth the $15 is that it felt like one of the $10 DLC's BioWare has produced just stretched out to make it seem worth $15. I won't comment on The Citadel for I haven't ever heard of a DLC being two parts before on the 360, so it might be worth it and since I haven't played it, its not fair to comment.

[Dieb]

This statement makes me "part of the problem", but honestly: I think DLC is a good thing.

I'd rather spend money to get more of my favourite game/franchise, than paying (in some extreme cases) just a little more for a full game that I don't enjoy nearly as much. So yes, I'm a slave. That's the benefit of having a compelling lore: people get hooked.

But then again, the only games I own that aren't RPGs, is XCOM:EU. This way, every DLC I got so far, were merely adding more story to my games - while I enjoy the MP I would have never payed for the MP DLCs for that matter.

[swordmalice]

If you compare the DLC's cost with the hours of content it contains, Omega is totally a bad deal. Look at the original ME. If you buy it as a digital download on PSN, it costs the same as Omega ($15) but you get a 40+ hour game with excellent replay value. The Steam version is an even better deal. That's why I have a very hard time swallowing the fact that Omega and Citadel cost the same as a full-fledged digital title. I'm more about getting the best bang for my buck that just having a base need for more content for my games. Maybe one day when I feel like playing more ME3 single-player I'll cave, but for the foreseeable future I will not be buying Omega or Citadel. Sorry BioWare!

Modifié par swordmalice, 02 mars 2013 - 01:06 .

[Minttymint]

Omega was expensive for what it delivered but the rest seem fair priced to me and Citadel is sounding like its worth it too however, I wont know that for sure until I play through it.
I don't spend money on going to the movies or fancy restaurants and I don't watch a lot of t.v. Games are what I love and want to spend time and money on and BioWare are responsible for like half of my favorite games thus to support this company I love and get more stories in my favorite worlds I buy a lot of DLC and merchandise in general but I digress... No the DLC's are not expensive, at least not to me.

[Jewlie Ghoulie]

Even if they are, I'm a wimp and anything I feel that is story essential via DLC, I will buy. I did not buy Omega for this reason. The plot didn't seem story essential [Though I was tempted to buy it solely for the Valkayrie. Thats my favorite MP Gun ], so I skipped out on it.

On that point of Omega, could someone correct me if it IS story Essential? I am doing my Complete play through of the ME series to prepare for the new DLC with my Engineer class and if Omega is a story essential thing, I will definitely pick it up along with Citadel, thank you! : )

[Kondorr]

I always liked all of the Mass Effect DLCs... some more some less... but I am positive about all of them...

But regarding the pricing... I think there should be something like cross platform offers and bundle sales...

I play on PC and PS3... and have it all for both systems... but... this is Mass Effect...

...I would never do that for Dragon Age... if they bundled the DLCs for DA2... MAYBE I would reinstall that game and give it another try... as it is now... I do not believe they are worth it...

[Dutchess]

I think that the ME3 DLC is too expensive for what you get, so I haven't purchased any of them. I believe that the Skyrim DLC is a far better deal in comparison.

Modifié par renjility, 01 mars 2013 - 03:53 .

[Weltea]

Nevermind, I'm to stupid to make a post

Modifié par Weltea, 01 mars 2013 - 03:59 .

[Weltea]

Weltea wrote...

They're trying to make money, so of course DLCs are expensive. And this is the End of the Shepard Triology so they knew people would most likely buy the DLC even if the price was raised a little.

With the exception of 'Omega' I think the ME3 prices were still acceptable for the content delivered. (Regardless of whether or not you liked said content in the end ). 'Citadel' is apparently 4GB so I'm assuming there'll be a lot too.

Of course I'd prefer if it was cheaper but DLC is not relevant to the game. It's additional but never crucial. So you can choose whether to buy it or not and it won't drastically change your gaming experience.
(And then there are things like the DA:O - Ultimate Edition where you get the game+all the DLC for 1/5 of the original price).

[N7-RedFox]

No. Mass effect dlc's are not too expensive, they're just too damned short and hardly affect the end game.

Modifié par N7-RedFox, 01 mars 2013 - 04:03 .

[MonkeySeeker]

Not really no, except Omega which is overpriced and should have been the same as the DLC that came before it.

[AlexMBrennan]

. Mass effect dlc's are not too expensive, they're just too damned short and hardly affect the end game.

Sorry, what? What's the difference?

My opinion: EA will charge whatever they think they can get away with, and as long as people are willing to pay disproportionally more for extra content they will keep doing it - why shouldn't they exploit that loyalty?
It's not good value for money if you look at $/h but thinks like added that completely ignores any additional enjoyment you might get from the base game by adding replayability and such

[Syroel13]

I think Omega was a little steep simple because it was hyped to be te biggest DLC which it was in content, but we were hoping for length.
The citadel DLC is double the size and makes us Xbox users download to files because of Xbox's 2 GB file limit. So basic math dictates it should be 30 dollars because its double the size.

No obviously I would be angry if it was 30 but its not so I don't consider it expensive

[MutoidMan]

Kondorr wrote...

I always liked all of the Mass Effect DLCs... some more some less... but I am positive about all of them...

I, too, liked all of the ME3 SP DLC so far; all of the ME & ME2 DLC, for that matter. Regardless of how 'essential' a DLC is regarded as being, I buy it because I want the full expanded gaming experience.

I'm still disappointed with ME3's three main endings, and had really hoped that they'd open up a 'good' ending with the final DLC, but at least the EC opened up the Refusal ending which I can readily accept and be satisfied with as it is reminiscent of the ending of They Live, which is cool.

Having said all that, I think the SP DLC is worth $15. If BioWare right now announced a Kickstarter to fund new SP DLC with $15 as the entry fee, they'd meet their goal in less than a day, all ****ing and moaning aside.

Modifié par MutoidMan, 01 mars 2013 - 04:42 .

[K2LU533]

I love the DLCs but of course they are overpriced, in relation to the main game, you aren't getting nearly enough bang for your buck.

[SilJeff]

For me at least, not even Omega was. Well, maybe it was and I'm thinking about it wrong, I dont know. Here's why (again, this is just for me, and definitely won't go with a lot of people) :

1. I very rarely buy DLC at all. Mass Effect is really the only game series that I've liked enough to buy all the DLC for. There are a few other games that i have, but it is extremely rare.

2. When I decide to get a DLC pack, I only have two options, buy a 2000 ($25) MSP card or a 4000 ($50) MSP card. I only buy dlc on the Xbox 360 as of now, and I will not use a credit card on things if I can get a gift card instead. That means, whether a DLC pack is $15 like Omega or Citadel or $5, I will always have $25 or $50 of points. That plus the fact that I rarely buy dlc, it doesn't hurt my wallet much at all to be a problem.

3. I have always, I mean always, enjoyed the heck out of the content the dlc brings. Yes, I loved playing Omega, even if it were a little underwhelming. Leviathan was worth every penny imo. I can't speak for From Ashes, though, because it came with my CE.

So yeah

[Erunion]

Jewlie Ghoulie wrote...

Even if they are, I'm a wimp and anything I feel that is story essential via DLC, I will buy. I did not buy Omega for this reason. The plot didn't seem story essential [Though I was tempted to buy it solely for the Valkayrie. Thats my favorite MP Gun ], so I skipped out on it.

On that point of Omega, could someone correct me if it IS story Essential? I am doing my Complete play through of the ME series to prepare for the new DLC with my Engineer class and if Omega is a story essential thing, I will definitely pick it up along with Citadel, thank you! : )

I wouldn't necessarily call it "essential," but it DOES wrap up Aria's story that the main game just left hanging. ("I've helped you unite all the major merc gangs, now you must help me take back Omega! " and then she loses your number or something.)

[Han Shot First]

If the DLCs are good, I don't think they are too expensive.

If I go to a 2 hour movie I'll spend more money than I would with a 2-3 hour DLC. Like movies however, whether or not it is worth the price depends on the quality of the product.

[Cloaking_Thane]

I would buy Levi, Omega and citidel if they were bundled for like $20 total

[_- Songlian -]

Han Shot First wrote...

If the DLCs are good, I don't think they are too expensive.

If I go to a 2 hour movie I'll spend more money than I would with a 2-3 hour DLC. Like movies however, whether or not it is worth the price depends on the quality of the product.

That is totally correct, but I think you are missing the OP's point. (S)He was trying to make a comparison between the DLC and the Original Game, not the DLC and movies, books, or other media. 

In that regard, personally I think (s)he is right. I highly disagree with the idea of a DLC, and haven't bought any since DA:O times. I think they are overpriced compared to the original game and I also think the only way to describe them is making a profit over the fact that we liked the game in the first place. 

Now, I might buy Citadel because I love the Mass Effect games so much and because it sounds that this one just might have enough content, but I'm not really too sure about it right now. 

Modifié par - Songlian -, 01 mars 2013 - 08:51 .

[DMWW]

It's strange how people point out that DLC isn't good value relative to the main game and then conclude that it isn't good value, period. Maybe the DLC is good value but the game is amazing value. (That's roughly my view, in fact, when I compare it to how much non-game entertainment costs.)

[Kingthlayer]

I do think DLC is getting a little expensive. If I hadn't bought Leviathan I would probably wait til towards the end of the year and see if a GotY comes out, those are normally 40 bucks and tend to be games that go on sale often, since I assume they're not flying off the shelf. I know I'm doing that for Skyrim, since once this next DLC comes out for them, you're looking at 75 dollars or so for all the DLC, which is just a waste of money when the GotY will come out at 40 and drop to 20 on Black Friday.

Went a little bit off topic there, but I think DLC will continue to rise in price, as long as it sells. From what I heard about Omega, I figured the DLC didn't sell that well, but if BioWare is going at 1200 points again, it must have sold well enough that they feel they can charge the same amount of money again.