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[Dabal Hayat]

UnbelievaBill wrote...

I only use the CSMG with him with warp rounds and in between BEs he can easily clean up with weapons.

Take the HV barrel and extended clip for the smg and it works great while keeping ur cool down low

I was tempted by the hurrican, but for me lack in ammo capacity:  locust (with amp gear) or Punisher (with ultra light materials) do better.

[kipac]

Do you use Ascension mode?

[etm125]

Further question: since BEs are only based on level of powers used in the BE, doesnt seeker level 5 sphere 6 gimp the BE? If a good portion of the dmg is prime with sphere, boom with SS shouldnt we SS 6?

[Dabal Hayat]

kipac wrote...

Do you use Ascension mode?

As a booster before every attack burst: minding its long animation, is usefull for its bonus on cooldown.

[Kuato Livezz]

Nice read and I will give it a whirl. Much more thought than..."I like to max DC and equip my Harrier X"

[Robbiesan]

Good post OP. I played this char only last night and I gotta say I love him. Still need to play with the build a bit, and went only 3 into Ascension Mode to avoid squishyness. I also used my CSMGII with clip and it did quite well. I must say this adept is among my favs. Well built char BW! It is cool playing a Collector.

Probably the only thing is getting used to seeing this char. Similar to when the Geth chars were introduced at first, I would freak a bit when I saw a Geth nearby, and was like "oh, right, that one of ours..."

[Dabal Hayat]

etm125 wrote...

Further question: since BEs are only based on level of powers used in the BE, doesnt seeker level 5 sphere 6 gimp the BE? If a good portion of the dmg is prime with sphere, boom with SS shouldnt we SS 6?

The damage of DS is so big (again >3000), that I didn't notice any difference. This and dark channel is the only powers of the awakened collector with a base cooldown < 8 seconds... meaning it's too good to pass up.

[PureGeth]

Whlte Rlder wrote...

Facepalm.

So much misinformation in this thread.

Dark sphere does not detonate BE explosions. It is only a primer.

It can do both. I've thrown DC on a Prime before without thinking, then threw my Sphere at it. It died as soon as the Sphere touched it, via Biotic Explosion.

It can also detonate them when it explodes.

[Theghostof_timmy]

I noticed you picked 6a on DS. The first time I did that, it made the radius on the explosion so small I found it almost useless. Does taking the radius on rank 4 help that? I say that because I'm running him on silver with a full radius spec and it works fine, but I'm concerned it may not do enough damage on gold.

[Whlte Rlder]

I did that the other day Robbie. I was playing a collector, against collectors with two collector teammates. Fun was had by all!

At least my collector is white. Makes it easy to distinguish from a crowd. Too many collectors running around obviously trying to mimic the colour schemes of the enemy.

[Whlte Rlder]

PureGeth wrote...

Whlte Rlder wrote...

Facepalm.

So much misinformation in this thread.

Dark sphere does not detonate BE explosions. It is only a primer.

It can do both. I've thrown DC on a Prime before without thinking, then threw my Sphere at it. It died as soon as the Sphere touched it, via Biotic Explosion.

It can also detonate them when it explodes.

Nope.

[PureGeth]

Whlte Rlder wrote...

PureGeth wrote...

Whlte Rlder wrote...

Facepalm.

So much misinformation in this thread.

Dark sphere does not detonate BE explosions. It is only a primer.

It can do both. I've thrown DC on a Prime before without thinking, then threw my Sphere at it. It died as soon as the Sphere touched it, via Biotic Explosion.

It can also detonate them when it explodes.

Nope.

You must not have the class then.

[Dabal Hayat]

herculeswill22 wrote...

I noticed you picked 6a on DS. The first time I did that, it made the radius on the explosion so small I found it almost useless. Does taking the radius on rank 4 help that? I say that because I'm running him on silver with a full radius spec and it works fine, but I'm concerned it may not do enough damage on gold.

It almost completely negates it: you lose 0.5 meter only on the radius, exploding 4.5 meter instead of 5: more than enough without losing in biotic power.

Modifié par Dabal Hayat, 01 mars 2013 - 05:49 .

[RamsenC]

If you are having trouble surviving while powers are on cooldown I suggest using a Falcon or Scorpion along with a light dps weapon. You can put ULM on both if needed.

[Theghostof_timmy]

Dabal Hayat wrote...

herculeswill22 wrote...

I noticed you picked 6a on DS. The first time I did that, it made the radius on the explosion so small I found it almost useless. Does taking the radius on rank 4 help that? I say that because I'm running him on silver with a full radius spec and it works fine, but I'm concerned it may not do enough damage on gold.

It almost completely negates it: you lose 0.5 meter only on the radius, exploding 4.5 meter instead of 5: more than enough without losing in biotic power.

Hmm. I think I'll try that then, dat 1000 damage...

[Projectxrun]

Dark sphere can dentonate BE aswell. Throw a dark sphere at a dark channeled enemy and detonate the sphere when it reaches it and you will see a biotic explosion

[TheGoda]

I use him as a biotic powerhouse and soldier style play, I use the collector smg of AR and I put swarms on, DR with 4 and I skipped dark channel and I detonate sphere on everything and then when it has the dot on it I shoot them with my gun and warp rounds, all while using Ascension mode as often as possible. He eats bosses alive, use adaptive war amp, weapon rail amp on whatever I'm using, power amplifier 4 and warp rounds, only use swarmers to explode things when I have an oh **** moment. It might not be the best way to play but I really enjoy it. Anyone have thoughts on my build?

[Dabal Hayat]

RamsenC wrote...

If you are having trouble surviving while powers are on cooldown I suggest using a Falcon or Scorpion along with a light dps weapon. You can put ULM on both if needed.

I don't recommend the falcon: I've tested and it's too heavy, disrupting the times of your biotic attack. Or you can use an AR if you spec an assault adept: but at this point, shouldn't a PPR synergize more?
The Scorpion is viable for the stagger on its bullets, but I prefer the Acolyte, because it's invaluable against heavy shielded enemy (Atlas, Banshee, Pretorians)

Modifié par Dabal Hayat, 01 mars 2013 - 06:24 .

[Whlte Rlder]

PureGeth wrote...

Whlte Rlder wrote...

PureGeth wrote...

Whlte Rlder wrote...

Facepalm.

So much misinformation in this thread.

Dark sphere does not detonate BE explosions. It is only a primer.

It can do both. I've thrown DC on a Prime before without thinking, then threw my Sphere at it. It died as soon as the Sphere touched it, via Biotic Explosion.

It can also detonate them when it explodes.

Nope.

You must not have the class then.

I have the class and wreck shop with him.  I have never once seen dark sphere detonate a BE, whether on contact or on detonation.  Solo or with a group of biotics.

I will test this just to be sure and apologize if I'm wrong but as it stands I'm more than sure it does not.

[Dabal Hayat]

TheGoda wrote...

I use him as a biotic powerhouse and soldier style play, I use the collector smg of AR and I put swarms on, DR with 4 and I skipped dark channel and I detonate sphere on everything and then when it has the dot on it I shoot them with my gun and warp rounds, all while using Ascension mode as often as possible. He eats bosses alive, use adaptive war amp, weapon rail amp on whatever I'm using, power amplifier 4 and warp rounds, only use swarmers to explode things when I have an oh **** moment. It might not be the best way to play but I really enjoy it. Anyone have thoughts on my build?

Did you enjoy using it? Then is more than viable for me.
Using the Collector SMG is another test I've done, but on higher difficulty it doesn't have a good dmg/ ammo ratio, IMO. And because the Dark Channel synergize pretty well with seeker swarms (3 biotic explosions ready for you to use) and the shorter cooldown of DC (the is no "I" in team, after all) I prefer to lose something in SS, if I can open 3 levels of DC.

Modifié par Dabal Hayat, 01 mars 2013 - 06:19 .

[Epicawesomesauce]

I run mine as 66653. Use a paladin with bio amp and eb. Starting with four ss, I launch a dark sphere, use dark channel on target, launch a ss at target for the first be. Detonate sphere and launch another ss for second be. That's for bosses.

On regular mooks I just dark channel to ss for be and mop up with paladin.

Fun as hell kit. But he becomes stupid strong when a juggy is in the party. No need to soft cover just nuke the hell out of everything.

[andresft]

Whlte Rlder wrote...

I have the class and wreck shop with him.  I have never once seen dark sphere detonate a BE, whether on contact or on detonation.  Solo or with a group of biotics.

I will test this just to be sure and apologize if I'm wrong but as it stands I'm more than sure it does not.

Wow, so you go around accusing people of misinformation and saying "nope" like you're some sort of truth squadron and you weren't even sure if it did detonate BEs or not, only basing your answers on weak anecdotal evidence? Again, wow. 

A nice old "I'm not completely sure, but I think you're wrong" would have spared you the eventual apology. 

[valium]

mine is 6/6/6/4/4 and I place first or second in every gold match I am in. I use the silencer with extended barrel and power amp.

With stronghold V I have enough barrier to expose myself long enough to launch the orb.

Modifié par valium, 01 mars 2013 - 06:20 .

[Dabal Hayat]

Robbiesan wrote...

Good post OP. I played this char only last night and I gotta say I love him. Still need to play with the build a bit, and went only 3 into Ascension Mode to avoid squishyness. I also used my CSMGII with clip and it did quite well. I must say this adept is among my favs. Well built char BW! It is cool playing a Collector.

Probably the only thing is getting used to seeing this char. Similar to when the Geth chars were introduced at first, I would freak a bit when I saw a Geth nearby, and was like "oh, right, that one of ours..."

Thank you Robbiesan, and I feel your fear: may I suggest pale colors with black patterns?
For me at least, It solved the problem.

[Dabal Hayat]

Epicawesomesauce wrote...

I run mine as 66653. Use a paladin with bio amp and eb. Starting with four ss, I launch a dark sphere, use dark channel on target, launch a ss at target for the first be. Detonate sphere and launch another ss for second be. That's for bosses.

On regular mooks I just dark channel to ss for be and mop up with paladin.

Fun as hell kit. But he becomes stupid strong when a juggy is in the party. No need to soft cover just nuke the hell out of everything.

Interesting: not tested the synergy with a Juggy, I 've to try.
And I spec full fitness just to abuse Ascension Stance: I'm not good enough to use a glass cannon with ascension mode on.:innocent: