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[jm2207]

@NeoSquall86

Even if I accept your definition of "useless" as correct (which I don't) having a maxed Eagle guarantees you won't ever get it again in future weekend events, thus increasing your chances for a gun you don't find quite as useless. So you have to admit the packs were useful, if only indirectly.

[Whole Particle]

OneTrueShot wrote...

Won't lie. Not happy about this at all. As usual, the legitimate players get shafted for not taking advantage of a bug whilst everyone else runs along all happy as larry. One? Sure. Four? That's a month of weekend events that not a single one of us legitimate players can get back.

Jealous? A little, yeah. Frustrated? Most definitely.

I understand your frustration, and am actually quite surprised BW is seemingly letting us keep the Promo Weapons we got in the Gift Packs, but up until today's pack glitch, I did all the operations and earned my Promotional weapons legitimately as well, so while there were likely a few people that abused the bug, not all of us did, and we stopped and reported to BW of the problem as soon as we noticed it was likely an issue.

If BW were to undo everyone's glitched Promo Upgrades or offer more free ones to everyone else, definitely wouldn't have a problem with it (not that I'm complaining about the multiple gifts though )

[Marksman]

Well - I'm one that benefited and I posted on here as soon as I saw a thread pop up. The n7 promos have always been frustrating to me b/c I have to travel a lot for work on the weekend, and miss most of these events (xbox player), even though I play the heck out of Me3 MP when I can. So like many I thought "this is interesting - maybe they're allowing the rest of us extra N7 promos" and plugged away at it between several rounds. Plus I was curious if the "gift" would give anything but weapons - I was more interested in new characters.

All said I don't use the promo weapons much except the Crusader, and I'm not a good enough player that the difference between a 7 and an X is going to matter much

I can see a rollback being fair to those whom it seems to really matter to. Personally I don't care much one way or the other as it seems a victimless issue, aside from jealousy or frustration for those who didn't benefit. I've bought crap tons of PSP during the week and maxed out about every weapon I don't use, and still rock a Harrier I. But I don't come on the forums and **** about it...I just play more, and buy more, during the week. /shrug

Modifié par Marksman, 02 mars 2013 - 08:08 .

[CaptCaleaus]

Yeah If they roll it back some way then I can live with that rather than a ban, it was a genuine mistake on my part. Seemed plausible that they were catching everyone up to celebrate the last DLC for multiplayer being released, or possibly this was even going to be the last weekend operation.

But yeah take the weapons if that makes those people happy who didn't get the extra. I don't mind losing them, I'll just re-earn them each weekend as I have been.

[Daveros]

Can I please have four free promotional weapons? I have been very good.

[Lathlaer]

jm2207 wrote...

@NeoSquall86

Even if I accept your definition of "useless" as correct (which I don't) having a maxed Eagle guarantees you won't ever get it again in future weekend events, thus increasing your chances for a gun you don't find quite as useless. So you have to admit the packs were useful, if only indirectly.

Yup, +1

Now imagine those 7 "useless" packs appearing not in 10 minutes, but 7 weeks time.

[Danniolo]

Well, about me rollin back random people for a Bioware fault isnt a professional conduct. And without any evidence of malice 

Modifié par Danniolo, 02 mars 2013 - 11:33 .

[Danniolo]

I can see a rollback being fair to those whom it seems to really matter to. Personally I don't care much one way or the other as it seems a victimless issue, aside from jealousy or frustration for those who didn't benefit. I've bought crap tons of PSP during the week and maxed out about every weapon I don't use, and still rock a Harrier I. But I don't come on the forums and **** about it...I just play more, and buy more, during the week. /shrug

Exactly. This jealousy and anger versus other players it's a bit disconcerting

[FasterThanFTL]

Look at the Promotional weapons:

http://social.biowar...671&platform=pc

[krknight]

they honestly didn't know. i can see rolling back anyone who did it 5 times or more, but these guys/gals should be rewarded for coming forward and saying something.

[Danniolo]

krknight wrote...

they honestly didn't know. i can see rolling back anyone who did it 5 times or more, but these guys/gals should be rewarded for coming forward and saying something.

About me the main question isnt the rollin back (or the reward for the onest that have reported this bug), but the decision to punish random people without any real proof of an unfair behavior, only suspects 

[tiger tank]

The fix worked for me, thanks. But I still have the promo weapons.
So I really commend to set it back. I had a lot of fun playing the MP in the last 12 months and its feels unfair owning this weapons without doing anything for it.

[NeoSquall86]

Lathlaer wrote...

jm2207 wrote...

@NeoSquall86

Even if I accept your definition of "useless" as correct (which I don't) having a maxed Eagle guarantees you won't ever get it again in future weekend events, thus increasing your chances for a gun you don't find quite as useless. So you have to admit the packs were useful, if only indirectly.

Yup, +1

Now imagine those 7 "useless" packs appearing not in 10 minutes, but 7 weeks time.

Or, you know, just saving up and trying your luck with Premium Spectre Packs, from which I obtained about a dozen levels of my N7 weapons, plus the 24 Commendation packs I redeemed before (I missed 2 of the first challenge rewards for unrelated reasons).
Anyway, if you find my situation unfair to you (isn't this a co-op game, anyway?), you're welcome to ask BioWare to roll me back.
And be assured I will still revive you if we ever happen play to together.

[Danniolo]

NeoSquall86 wrote...

Lathlaer wrote...

jm2207 wrote...

@NeoSquall86

Even if I accept your definition of "useless" as correct (which I don't) having a maxed Eagle guarantees you won't ever get it again in future weekend events, thus increasing your chances for a gun you don't find quite as useless. So you have to admit the packs were useful, if only indirectly.

Yup, +1

Now imagine those 7 "useless" packs appearing not in 10 minutes, but 7 weeks time.

Or, you know, just saving up and trying your luck with Premium Spectre Packs, from which I obtained about a dozen levels of my N7 weapons, plus the 24 Commendation packs I redeemed before (I missed 2 of the first challenge rewards for unrelated reasons).
Anyway, if you find my situation unfair to you (isn't this a co-op game, anyway?), you're welcome to ask BioWare to roll me back.
And be assured I will still revive you if we ever happen play to together.

They make me sad.
You have unawares "used" a bug  (but before the official communication you don know it was a bug of course) in a game, and it's looks like you have stolen their bike, and so they ask insistently for a punishment 

Modifié par Danniolo, 02 mars 2013 - 12:43 .

[78stonewobble]

*handwave* These aren't the giftpacks you're looking for Bioware...



Well I've never run into it.

[Jetblackmoon]

Everyone who received extra promotional weapons should just have them removed. Seems simple enough to me. Since Bryan said they wouldn't be able to get a pack from the challenge, all they'd have to do is give everyone affected by this one Commendation Pack in the store, since everyone who had this issue still got their regular Gift Pack with a character in it anyway.

I won't name any names, but I saw one person in this topic who had completed three total weekend operations (with Impact being one of them), yet had 19 promotional weapons. I mean... come on. As of Impact, there is a possibility of 34 legit promotional weapons (33 from weekend events, 1 extra if you had a maxed manifest on N7 day), so to have people getting such huge amounts of weapons in one weekend is obviously a problem. Not an issue for anyone to be banned over, but something clearly needs to be done.

[EddieZaic]

I opened about 14 (I lost count) thinking that I was just lucky and at some point it's supposed to give me a Reckoning character. Then i just stopped and wen't to the forums.
Honestly, I didn't spend 300 hours on the game just to get banned afterwards.

[P51Mus7ang]

I find it frustrating as well, the promo weapons were to be part of a weekend challenge, I spoted an obvious noob this morning with a Valkarie X and Hurricane X in gold, looked at their manifest and every Promo was at X yet they had very little of any other weapon. I ran into a lot of players running promo's at X last night and this morning but it never dawned on me until I read this post. I have gone back through numerous pug players I ran with in the past few hours and am disheartened at what I have discovered.

[Danniolo]

EddieZaic wrote...

I opened about 14 (I lost count) thinking that I was just lucky and at some point it's supposed to give me a Reckoning character. Then i just stopped and wen't to the forums.
Honestly, I didn't spend 300 hours on the game just to get banned afterwards.

Even because isnt your fault

[Danniolo]

But for this rollback something it's known?
Only your pg return to lvl 1, or you lost all your items/weapons?

Modifié par Danniolo, 02 mars 2013 - 05:10 .

[Whole Particle]

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Look at the Promotional weapons:

http://social.biowar...671&platform=pc

Now that would be the definition of abusing the glitch, and should probably have their weapons rolled back. Given that it's very hard to earn promo weapons normally, and they just get them all at once.

However I don't blame them for taking advantage of it, as every time they opened each pack, the description read something along the lines of "A Free Gift from Bioware", so I can understand why they wouldn't turn it down if it's supposedly free.

[parico]

I ran into a pug yesterday in gold with an n7 of 83 sporting a valiant x and a crusader x. I think that's wrong and those should be taken away.

[theblob2]

Slightly offtopic: Could you please have a look at this guy's manifest and tell me what you think of it?

http://social.biowar...ome&platform=pc

Not even 10 hours playtime, but all items from common to rare maxed. Did he invest a lot of real money, or is he some kind of cheater?

Modifié par theblob2, 03 mars 2013 - 10:32 .

[phiorala]

theblob2 wrote...

Slightly offtopic: Could you please have a look at this guy's manifest and tell me what you think of it?

http://social.biowar...ome&platform=pc

Not even 10 hours playtime, but all items from common to rare maxed. Did he invest a lot of real money, or is he some kind of cheater?

Seems like money. One challenge done, one promo weapon. Mostly played on Bronze - if they were cheating to get these credits it'd be must faster to do on higher difficulties. That's like a couple thousand dollars though.

Modifié par phiorala, 03 mars 2013 - 10:47 .

[jm2207]

theblob2 wrote...

Slightly offtopic: Could you please have a look at this guy's manifest and tell me what you think of it?

http://social.biowar...ome&platform=pc

Not even 10 hours playtime, but all items from common to rare maxed. Did he invest a lot of real money, or is he some kind of cheater?

First, technically not all uncommons and rares are maxed.

By my count s/he has unlocked total of 720 rare and ultra rare cards.

624 rares = 192 characters, 250 weapons, 77 weapon mods, 105 gear 
  96 ultra-rares = 12 characters, 84 weapons
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720

If you allow for 3 rare/UR slots per Pspec pack, that is a minimum of 240 packs. That's 23.76 million credits or 57600 MS points. At 80 per dollar, that's $720 minimum. But getting 96 ultra rares in 240 packs would be extremely unlikely, so obviously it would have been a pretty expensive endeavor.

Considering the player is on PC... and that files can be altered... hmm.

Modifié par jm2207, 03 mars 2013 - 11:43 .