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[odin79]

i love it best gun in the game

[Bechter]

Feneckus wrote...

Annomander wrote...

ULM hurricane? Seriously Feneckus? You might as well use a stability module or a scope on it too, just to make your hurricane extra useless...

I only use the Hurricane vs Atlases and Turrets. So it's not worth getting a 0.7s longer cooldown on overload.

I wouldn't use the ULM vs Reapers/Collectors though since I'd use the Hurricane more often.

taplonaplo wrote...

I like the part that is not vs cerberus infantry.

Like I said, it's useless vs bosses. So it's not a great weapon to use against Reapers. Better against Collectors.

It's also great vs those scumbags known as Geth. But I don't play against those cheating mother****ers.

How can you say the bolded and also make a claim for this gun being the best in the game?

[ManRightChea]

Dunvi wrote...

Feneckus, you overestimate the skill of the majority of players. I would estimate that 99.999% of the player base does not get regular headshots.

I'd be more impressed to see the same vid without overload or another stagger power.

[parabolicity]

That was hilarious, nice job.

[DeLaatsteGeitenneuker]

Feneckus wrote...



The Suppressor certainly has a case for being the best weapon in the game. It's light, accurate, has a decent clip size and great ROF and the damage is just insane if you can get headshots.

I still think the Javelin is better. It can one shot pretty much anything, even on non infiltrators, and it has wallhacks + innate 1m piercing so you barely have to move to find new stuff to kill.

But besides the Javelin ? I don't think anything's better than the Suppressor. It's extremely weak against bosses, a Turian Sentinel can't even one clip a Cerberus Turret with it, but it's nothing an ULM Hurricane can't fix, and you'll still end up with a better cooldown bonus than if you had a Harrier X.

I heard people complain about the lack of ammo. It shouldn't be an issue. It's not an Eagle. It's a 10-shot Black Widow that only works with headshots. Treat it as such and you won't have any problems. Technically, you should be able to kill 16 phantoms/dragoons before you need an ammo box. That's good enough.

The irony...someone who swears by weapons such as the Javelin and Claymore praising a peashooter like that. Oh well....:innocent:

[IoeShepard]

Use it on my AV -> charge bumm -> next i like that.

Dont feel the lack on ammo too much that way.

[Feneckus]

peddroelmz wrote...

you need executioner for that (with phasics III) .. Phasics III are wasted on supressor (much too low damage) ... 

Oh 

The Human Soldier is much better with the Executioner. He can also one shot phantoms with phasics.

Bechter wrote...

How can you say the bolded and also make a claim for this gun being the best in the game? [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie] 

Because I mostly play Cerberus/Gold.

[Uchimura]

It should be pretty manageable vs geth for most people. Pretty fun. I think 'PP7'(?) or Silverballers level of fun.

[Deerber]

Feneckus wrote...

peddroelmz wrote...

you need executioner for that (with phasics III) .. Phasics III are wasted on supressor (much too low damage) ... 

Oh 

The Human Soldier is much better with the Executioner. He can also one shot phantoms with phasics.

Phantoms, really? That's... unexpected.

[Colonel Sheppard]

I absolutely love this gun. The most interesting gun in the DLC by a long shot. Personally, I think it's more interesting than easy mode Lancer, which is an improvement on easy mode Harrier. I don't think it's the best gun in the game. PPR X, Hurricane, or easy mode Javelin are my personal candidates.

[RoundedPlanet88]

Deerber wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

peddroelmz wrote...

you need executioner for that (with phasics III) .. Phasics III are wasted on supressor (much too low damage) ... 

Oh 

The Human Soldier is much better with the Executioner. He can also one shot phantoms with phasics.

Phantoms, really? That's... unexpected.

Surely that's offhost?????

[tjbearpig]

What's the native headshot multiplayer on the suppressor?

Definitely will try it out on a T-Sol or QMS (if tacscan headshot bonus isn't bugged)

[AzuraAngellus]

To me, it looks like they made the Harrier into a pistol. Low spare ammunition. Working as intended.

[capn233]

Don't need to see the video. Unless it is an Atlas kill speed video, in which I would actually watch because that would be comical.

If you are talking all around weapons, then I would say it isn't one of the best. I tend to think of the best weapons as those that can serve as your primary without a back up. Hence Suppressor is not that weapon, unless you are on Bronze with all low level units.

I do feel that overall it is one of the best designed weapons that they have included. Significant strength balanced by real weaknesses.

[capn233]

tjbearpig wrote...

What's the native headshot multiplayer on the suppressor?

4x.

You need to make sure that it has enough mods / amps and or character damage boost though.  The most annoying thing is leaving a Cerberus Assault Trooper with one bar of health after a headshot.

[Deerber]

tjbearpig wrote...

What's the native headshot multiplayer on the suppressor?

Definitely will try it out on a T-Sol or QMS (if tacscan headshot bonus isn't bugged)

X4.

Tacscan headshot bonus is bugged actually. Marksman one is not though. Actually it's 1.3125 instead that 1.25...

[BridgeBurner]

ManRightChea wrote...

Dunvi wrote...

Feneckus, you overestimate the skill of the majority of players. I would estimate that 99.999% of the player base does not get regular headshots.

I'd be more impressed to see the same vid without overload or another stagger power.

He does it all the time with his javelin geth trooper. headshots stuff no matter what the range, that's rolling, jumping, flying, staggered, not staggered, moving perpendicular.... Oh and he regularly gets the 20 headshots medal before the 25 kills medal, on a variety of kits.

Modifié par Annomander, 01 mars 2013 - 10:23 .

[palmof40sorrows]

InstaShark wrote...

I can admit that a good shot can absolutely wreck face with this gun.








I am not a good shot.

Also for all you "master race" folk out there, please stop acting like aim assist is any way helpful, and anything but a nuisance. It's "assist" is super helpful in assistance you to NOT aim at what you want to shoot.

[flibber89-2]

Great weapon & addition to the game only tried it on the Cabal so far and it was pretty awesome vs. geth.. could go toe to toe with any enemy even a prime with the help of biotic focus, but definitely had ammo issues.. someone said it makes the Paladin obsolete.. no.

[JohnDoe]

not so good unless you're host and have good aim.

[BridgeBurner]

palmof40sorrows wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

I can admit that a good shot can absolutely wreck face with this gun.








I am not a good shot.

Also for all you "master race" folk out there, please stop acting like aim assist is any way helpful, and anything but a nuisance. It's "assist" is super helpful in assistance you to NOT aim at what you want to shoot.

If it doesn't help at all, how come every developer for every shooter game for xbox / PS3 stuffs it full of snap to, targetting friction and bullet tracking? If it's so detrimental, how come even with auto-aim "disabled" in the game options, it still exists on your console shooters? 

How come auto-aim existed since the dawn of 3D consoles and their FPS games....? Yeah, because it's impossible to play without it on console. Even games which have the option to disable it, it merely tones it down, not disables it completely.

[capn233]

palmof40sorrows wrote...

Also for all you "master race" folk out there, please stop acting like aim assist is any way helpful, and anything but a nuisance. It's "assist" is super helpful in assistance you to NOT aim at what you want to shoot.

From what I hear, it is totally overpowered for getting the "Kill 100 Swarmers" achievement.

[capn233]

Annomander wrote...

If it doesn't help at all, how come every developer for every shooter game for xbox / PS3 stuffs it full of snap to, targetting friction and bullet tracking?

Heh.

Implementation, as usual, is a big factor in the usefulness of said mechanics under the umbrella of "aim assist."

[Feneckus]

RoundedPlanet88 wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

The Human Soldier is much better with the Executioner. He can also one shot phantoms with phasics.

Phantoms, really? That's... unexpected.

Surely that's offhost?????

Obviously.

I gotta say it does feel pretty bad ass 

It's not that surprising. The Executioner does more damage per shot than the Black Widow. Add the headshot mod, the 70% damage bonus from Adrenaline Rush and boom. I think you need a targeting VI as well, can't remember.

[DcIhNaGv3z]

how does it perform against bosses like banshees, praetorians, scion, atlas, prime?