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[stefbomb]

upinya slayin wrote...

Feneckus wrote...



The Suppressor certainly has a case for being the best weapon in the game. It's light, accurate, has a decent clip size and great ROF and the damage is just insane if you can get headshots.

I still think the Javelin is better. It can one shot pretty much anything, even on non infiltrators, and it has wallhacks + innate 1m piercing so you barely have to move to find new stuff to kill.

But besides the Javelin ? I don't think anything's better than the Suppressor. It's extremely weak against bosses, a Turian Sentinel can't even one clip a Cerberus Turret with it, but it's nothing an ULM Hurricane can't fix, and you'll still end up with a better cooldown bonus than if you had a Harrier X.

I heard people complain about the lack of ammo. It shouldn't be an issue. It's not an Eagle. It's a 10-shot Black Widow that only works with headshots. Treat it as such and you won't have any problems. Technically, you should be able to kill 16 phantoms/dragoons before you need an ammo box. That's good enough.

does anyone know how much damage a headshot does with it? i know its insane but a number would be nice. maybe the PC master race can datamine it for us console peasnats. please

It has a 4.00x headshot multiplier and at X it does 157.1 base damage per shot with 600 rpm. You do the math

[BridgeBurner]

DcIhNaGv3z wrote...

how does it perform against bosses like banshees, praetorians, scion, atlas, prime?

Terribly, you need a side arm.

[stefbomb]

Annomander wrote...

DcIhNaGv3z wrote...

how does it perform against bosses like banshees, praetorians, scion, atlas, prime?

Terribly, you need a side arm.

Not necessarily... I do okay on the Asari Adept with the Suppressor against bosses, using Warp Ammo and landing straight headshots. Not ideal, but it sort of works.

[joker_jack]

Annomander wrote...

Foxen63 wrote...

ok ... I may be just a peasant here ... but seriously. Is it really that easy to headshot on PC?

You're just a peasant. It's far from "easy" to have good aim. The same cannot be said for consoles and their built in aimbot to babysit terrible players.

That aimbot is more of a distration than anything. It doesn't babysit bad players. If anything it makes them worse without realizing anything when the aimbot randomly selects a target.

Lancer in this dlc is by far the best gun all around followed by the executioner pistol. Executioner thankfully escaped the chopping block. Executionerr is by far better than the silencer if we are going head shots. Scope and ap mod and you've got a pocket widow with better reload canceling. One shoting things on gold is just priceless.

Both guns however are usless to most players. Many can't land the head shots needed to make these guns work. Partly why so many hate the saber.

Modifié par joker_jack, 01 mars 2013 - 11:32 .

[Feneckus]

stefbomb wrote...

Not necessarily... I do okay on the Asari Adept with the Suppressor against bosses, using Warp Ammo and landing straight headshots. Not ideal, but it sort of works.

Or you could take a Hurricane, kill bosses twice as fast and have little to no impact on your cooldowns, especially if you take the Ultra Light Materials.

[StoxRegalia]

I love it. Rewards skills that most console peasants don't have

[TheSevered]

I've been using the suppressor as my only gun on my Asari Huntress. I wreck face on the mooks when the aim assist gods allow it and when the bosses come out I use TC/DC, TC/warp iterations to take them down while pelting them with the suppressor in between cloaks. Sure I'm camping ammo boxes but I'm really having fun with the kit and gun. This is on gold btw.

[NYG1991]

Even if you suck at headshots it's not too bad

[baldmop]

Has anyone seemed to notice with the suppressor how much smaller the round of ammo is ?

You get a hit on a head shot if the enemy is still standing your already sighted in on head the head seems so huge with that pin ****** round that adjustments in aim are easier.

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

Wow. That was absolutely disgusting. I'm going to have to try it out.

[Knockingbr4in]

Point-and-click easy mode.

[Shepard VI]

Maybe one of the best pistols.

[mybudgee]

Its afflicted with low-ammo disease

[Deerber]

Feneckus wrote...

RoundedPlanet88 wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

The Human Soldier is much better with the Executioner. He can also one shot phantoms with phasics.

Phantoms, really? That's... unexpected.

Surely that's offhost?????

Obviously.

I gotta say it does feel pretty bad ass 

It's not that surprising. The Executioner does more damage per shot than the Black Widow. Add the headshot mod, the 70% damage bonus from Adrenaline Rush and boom. I think you need a targeting VI as well, can't remember.

It's surprising to me because you cannot bypass the shieldgate using phasic ammo III with it. Not even on a centurion. What is happening if you can OHK a Phantom is that you're doing so much damage that the bleedthrough is enough to kill her. Which really means a ton of damage!

Feneckus wrote...

stefbomb wrote...

Not necessarily... I do okay on the Asari Adept with the Suppressor against bosses, using Warp Ammo and landing straight headshots. Not ideal, but it sort of works.

Or you could take a Hurricane, kill bosses twice as fast and have little to no impact on your cooldowns, especially if you take the Ultra Light Materials.

Yeah actually it's much more than twice. More like 4X faster... The headshot bonus against bosses is still 1.4X.

[Yosuke]

I keep wanting to go back to the paladin and carnifex, but the suppressor's got her hooks in me. The only bad thing about the gun is that it's almost not satisfying to headshot with zero recoil.

Modifié par Yosuke, 02 mars 2013 - 11:52 .

[TehPwnzor52]

Annomander wrote...

palmof40sorrows wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

I can admit that a good shot can absolutely wreck face with this gun.








I am not a good shot.

Also for all you "master race" folk out there, please stop acting like aim assist is any way helpful, and anything but a nuisance. It's "assist" is super helpful in assistance you to NOT aim at what you want to shoot.

If it doesn't help at all, how come every developer for every shooter game for xbox / PS3 stuffs it full of snap to, targetting friction and bullet tracking? If it's so detrimental, how come even with auto-aim "disabled" in the game options, it still exists on your console shooters? 

How come auto-aim existed since the dawn of 3D consoles and their FPS games....? Yeah, because it's impossible to play without it on console. Even games which have the option to disable it, it merely tones it down, not disables it completely.

Yes, because developers ALWAYS know what's best <_<.
For good players it hinders more than helps. I cannot tell you the number of times I've raged when a Javelin shot missed because a swarmer walked nearby my target.

Modifié par TehPwnzor52, 02 mars 2013 - 12:03 .

[neon skink]

I have a question - the gun is described as 'silenced so as not give away your position on the battlefield'
- well has anyone noticed if you attract less attention from enemies? Whats the actual effect of the suppressor? does it not break cloak or some other perk? (apart from headshot bonus)

cheers!

[Megakoresh]

It's like a pistol Harrier. Very frustrating ammo reserve and clip size.

Dunno what all the fuss about bosses is though, in my experience its just as good against them as any other Rare pistol with exception of Executioner, which has terrible accuracy for a one-shot weapon.

Modifié par Megakoresh, 02 mars 2013 - 12:32 .

[vonSlash]

Annomander wrote...

Foxen63 wrote...

ok ... I may be just a peasant here ... but seriously. Is it really that easy to headshot on PC?

You're just a peasant. It's far from "easy" to have good aim. The same cannot be said for consoles and their built in aimbot to babysit terrible players.

We've come back to this again, BSN?

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, though. The mods can't be bothered to ban people who spend all of their posts spreading hate speech and divisiveness, apparently.

[Megakoresh]

vonSlash wrote...
We've come back to this again, BSN? 

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, though. The mods can't be bothered to ban people who spend all of their posts spreading hate speech and divisiveness, apparently.

Banning half the forums is not healthy, though nobody hates in ALL of their posts. Just 70% or so, give or take.

Modifié par Megakoresh, 02 mars 2013 - 12:37 .

[HolyAvenger]

Lancer is by far the best gun in the DLC, everything else is just a gimmicky one-trick pony.

[PreGy]

I first tried it on the Collector when I unlocked it, and I thought it was garbage. Then, after reading this thread and knowing about the 400% head-shot multiplier, I tried it again on my Cabal, and it really shines against mooks. Even on Xbox, it's quite easy to head-shot any infantry enemy (any faction), and although it may work in some bosses, I prefer carrying a Hurricane VIII to take care of them (no need for ULM), since you will normally run out of ammo.

Thanks for the input

[klokked]

You can go into tac cloak and fire it and tac cloak won't break for three seconds.

[LorelynF]

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Good, but not the best.

[Feneckus]

Deerber wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

It's not that surprising. The Executioner does more damage per shot than the Black Widow. Add the headshot mod, the 70% damage bonus from Adrenaline Rush and boom. I think you need a targeting VI as well, can't remember.

It's surprising to me because you cannot bypass the shieldgate using phasic ammo III with it. Not even on a centurion.

Huh ?

With Adrenaline Rush, you can.

It's possible with a Black Widow as well, and it does less damage.

Megakoresh wrote...

It's like a pistol Harrier. Very frustrating ammo reserve and clip size.

It's not a Harrier. Treat it like a sniper rifle and you won't have ammo issues. You should be able to go entire waves without going to an ammo box. You're barely doing any damage if you miss the head anyway, so take your time and make every shot count.

Modifié par Feneckus, 02 mars 2013 - 10:16 .