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[Vlark]

 



Seriously? He is an amazing character and he can dish out insane amounts of Damage. BUT he is kinda "weak" on his own , so i usually pair him with a Drell/Justicar/HA/Krogan Shaman. You have NEVER ever seen so much havoc before.


Reave spam + DoT Dark Sphere + Ascencion Mode 1 activated + Dark Channel spam trivializes Platinum as long as your 3rd or 4th Character has something against shields. 

I play him with either an PPR or Collector Rifle and he does more damage than i have ever seen. Its insane but very good balanced because of his long Cooldowns and his inability to do so on his own.

[Grumpy Old Wizard]

X-Frame wrote...

They need to at least double the buffs given for Ascension Stance to make it worthwhile. If I'm going to take 40% more damage I want my powers and recharge time to be drastically increased, especially if it's only 30 seconds and not a toggle.

Yeah, 40% more damage taken is basically "if I get hit I'm dead."  For that I'd expect my powers to one-shot pretty much everything.

[Deerber]

People here implying that Lightswitch doesn't know how to play the character... You clearly didn't read the whole thread and you clearly don't have a clue what you're talking about. Quiet, please.

MasterPeras wrote...

I don't see what the fuss is all about. He is now IMO the most powerfull adept in the game. Sure it's hard to play him but all new char are. (EDI bot not included)
This guy has the most build variations and the amount of dmg you can delliver is on the limit being OP.
Gliches are present true but he's not the only one affected by them and lag for that matter.
All in all this guy is the adept grandmaster.

Drell Adept and Fury are thousands of miles ahead of him.

The Slasher is hundreds of miles away.

The Human is probably ahead too, but that might be discussed.

And that's very close to being objective, not only my opinion 

Modifié par Deerber, 02 mars 2013 - 03:17 .

[DJ Airsurfer]

Deerber wrote...

People here implying that Lightswitch doesn't know how to play the character... You clearly didn't read the whole thread and you clearly don't have a clue what you're talking about. Quiet, please.

Same happened in my thread, has megabeast insulted the OP yet?

[MasterPeras]

DJ Airsurfer wrote...

It's not that the Collector is bad, no no. It's that he should be BETTER. His cooldowns are too long for what they give, Ascension Stance gives -40% DR and not enough offensive buffs to compensate.

You nullify AM with 4 swarmers-shoot the sphere-cover-shoot-DC-swarms=boom boom and a big badaboom at the end. No problem waiting 10 secs now that the coast is clear:wizard:

[Deerber]

DJ Airsurfer wrote...

Deerber wrote...

People here implying that Lightswitch doesn't know how to play the character... You clearly didn't read the whole thread and you clearly don't have a clue what you're talking about. Quiet, please.

Same happened in my thread, has megabeast insulted the OP yet?

No, he didn't. I've usually seen him as a quite polite person though, so I'm surprised if it happened.

[DJ Airsurfer]

MasterPeras wrote...

You nullify AM with 4 swarmers-shoot the sphere-cover-shoot-DC-swarms=boom boom and a big badaboom at the end. No problem waiting 10 secs now that the coast is clear:wizard:

<.< >.>

You lose the DR as you cast the swarms to detonate, not to mention the 40% DR actually isn't 40% in-game. AND the fact that spending six points in both the Swarm and Ascension Stance passives really is a waste of points. At this point you either don't bother with Ascension Stance, and/or don't bother with using Swarms for detonating.

Coast is clear? I bet that's the case on Bronze/Silver/early Gold waves, but generally? No.

Deerber wrote...


No, he didn't. I've usually seen him as a quite polite person though, so I'm surprised if it happened.

See for yourself.

Modifié par DJ Airsurfer, 02 mars 2013 - 03:33 .

[DAO MAdhatter]

Why do people keep saying the drell adept is good? Together with the Asari justicar I consider them to be two of the weakest kits in the game. Their powers literally require either too much set up(Rushing to ur death to set up that god awful warp bubble) or netotiously inaccurate(cluster granades) & pull can only be used on enemies with no shields of armor.

I would easly consider the collector to be hugely more powerful.

[HolyAvenger]

Deerber wrote...


Drell Adept and Fury are thousands of miles ahead of him.

The Slasher is hundreds of miles away.

The Human is probably ahead too, but that might be discussed.

And that's very close to being objective, not only my opinion 

 

Grenade users are pretty broken in general, hard to keep up with them. Basically any kit with only 1 cooldown (Fury, the two grenadiers) will always be better than a kit with two cooldowns. This because 1 CD kits are for scrubs who need to L2P because they can't managed CD:P


But of the rest, he's pretty good. Right alongside the Human Adept. 

[your-friendly-noggin]

DJ Airsurfer wrote...

MasterPeras wrote...

You nullify AM with 4 swarmers-shoot the sphere-cover-shoot-DC-swarms=boom boom and a big badaboom at the end. No problem waiting 10 secs now that the coast is clear:wizard:

<.< >.>

You lose the DR as you cast the swarms to detonate, not to mention the 40% DR actually isn't 40% in-game. AND the fact that spending six points in both the Swarm and Ascension Stance passives really is a waste of points. At this point you either don't bother with Ascension Stance, and/or don't bother with using Swarms for detonating.

Coast is clear? I bet that's the case on Bronze/Silver/early Gold waves, but generally? No.

I roll with 66365 and I can't remember the last time I ever fired off one of my swarms for BE, you can play a really easy gold without BEs and honestly most of the time ascension isn't worth it unless you are in a really good team. Sphere and channel do enough damage and staggers even to bosses that you can happily use the swarm for the passive bonuses.

[Deerber]

HolyAvenger wrote...

Deerber wrote...


Drell Adept and Fury are thousands of miles ahead of him.

The Slasher is hundreds of miles away.

The Human is probably ahead too, but that might be discussed.

And that's very close to being objective, not only my opinion 

 

Grenade users are pretty broken in general, hard to keep up with them. Basically any kit with only 1 cooldown (Fury, the two grenadiers) will always be better than a kit with two cooldowns. This because 1 CD kits are for scrubs who need to L2P because they can't managed CD:P


But of the rest, he's pretty good. Right alongside the Human Adept. 

Haha you're right, I should know better. True men play with 2 CD-dependent power, right?  I need to l2play, dammit! 

[Deerber]

DJ Airsurfer wrote...

Deerber wrote...


No, he didn't. I've usually seen him as a quite polite person though, so I'm surprised if it happened.

See for yourself.

Lol. Looks like you got him in a bad mood 

[Saans Shadow]

I played the Collector last night in gold pugs and I was either one or two in each match next to a Juggernaut. I am using a 6/6/3/5/6 build, Dark Sphere spec'd for Dmg/Recharge/Unstable, Seekers for Recharge/Dmg Resis/Extra Swarm, Passive 1 for Dmg+Capacity/Power Dmg, and Fitness for Durability/Ascension Recharge Speed/Fitness Expert. This gives me its massive wide area damage plus durability. It's a great character and I slap on my biotic amp gear for the extra damage and if I need even more I arm it with warp ammo. I've been keeping his weapons light for the cooldown, example is the Hornet and Acolyte. He's definately got a learning curve like the other reckoning characters but well worth the time. He has quickly become my favorite adept over the Fury which has held my love since earth.

[TMB903]

He's a pretty amazing adept actually. His DoT ability is ridiculous...

[Aetika]

DAO MAdhatter wrote...

Why do people keep saying the drell adept is good? Together with the Asari justicar I consider them to be two of the weakest kits in the game. Their powers literally require either too much set up(Rushing to ur death to set up that god awful warp bubble) or netotiously inaccurate(cluster granades) & pull can only be used on enemies with no shields of armor.

I would easly consider the collector to be hugely more powerful.

Ooh, it´s quite dangerous to make such claims. There are always people who will prove you wrong. Besides, Drell Adept is known powerhouse and I can tell you right away, that I play AJA very often and she is far from weak.

[LincolnWithHat]

Collector Adept is amazing, as is Dark Sphere.

[darkblade]

I don't understand why ascension stance even has a penalty.

If they could give the AIU repair matrix, and the warlord warlord rage, why does the collectors special fitness have a down side? if they want to do that the debuff should be smaller and the buff should be way larger.

As for his animations, leave as long as they are. His animations make him feel powerful, the way power surges through him and the way he moves when melee and dark sphere are used make him feel like a power house. Compared to every other adept, he's way overpowered aesthetically. The best one (drell) feels like a flailing **** compared to the power invoking animations of the collector.

Honestly they should just fix his stance, and give all his power +100% base damage.

[DAO MAdhatter]

Aetika wrote...

DAO MAdhatter wrote...

Why do people keep saying the drell adept is good? Together with the Asari justicar I consider them to be two of the weakest kits in the game. Their powers literally require either too much set up(Rushing to ur death to set up that god awful warp bubble) or netotiously inaccurate(cluster granades) & pull can only be used on enemies with no shields of armor.

I would easly consider the collector to be hugely more powerful.

Ooh, it´s quite dangerous to make such claims. There are always people who will prove you wrong. Besides, Drell Adept is known powerhouse and I can tell you right away, that I play AJA very often and she is far from weak.

no it's not. You have to be close foe those bs clusters to even hit what they are suppost to hit. Not to mention you might not even have them when you need them cause sum dumb*** with inferno granades keeps ninjaing them from every granade box. The collectors dark sphere is guaranteed to be usable. In the end powers win out. 

[kr3g]

Still dont have him

But from what I heard, his battle stance should be buffed.

[zRz Tyr]

So just because you can not handle him right, makes the Collector the worst character in the game? Yeah nice logic there.... You have not considered that he just is not your cup of tea, especially when there appears to be alot of people saying that he is good.

[J-Reyno]

DAO MAdhatter wrote...

no it's not. You have to be close foe those bs clusters to even hit what they are suppost to hit. Not to mention you might not even have them when you need them cause sum dumb*** with inferno granades keeps ninjaing them from every granade box. The collectors dark sphere is guaranteed to be usable. In the end powers win out. 

I don't think any kit with inferno grenades should be able to ninja a Drell.  

[Verroq]

 It's all in how you build it, combined with how you play it. For small enemies, just throw dark sphere and then dark channel one of them and walk away, and you win. For big skow targets like Primes ir Atlases, Throw Dark Sphere at something, then seeker swarm, then dark channel, then seeker swarm, then explode dark sphere. You just caused two biotic explosions and two DoT effects in addition to the massively damaging dark sphere explosion on a single target.  It rocks all the things. It's one of the strongest adepts and definitely my favorite of the new characters. I play on the Xbox and have never had any control issues with it, either, so I can't help you there. 

[Aetika]

DAO MAdhatter wrote...

Aetika wrote...

DAO MAdhatter wrote...

Why do people keep saying the drell adept is good? Together with the Asari justicar I consider them to be two of the weakest kits in the game. Their powers literally require either too much set up(Rushing to ur death to set up that god awful warp bubble) or netotiously inaccurate(cluster granades) & pull can only be used on enemies with no shields of armor.

I would easly consider the collector to be hugely more powerful.

Ooh, it´s quite dangerous to make such claims. There are always people who will prove you wrong. Besides, Drell Adept is known powerhouse and I can tell you right away, that I play AJA very often and she is far from weak.

no it's not. You have to be close foe those bs clusters to even hit what they are suppost to hit. Not to mention you might not even have them when you need them cause sum dumb*** with inferno granades keeps ninjaing them from every granade box. The collectors dark sphere is guaranteed to be usable. In the end powers win out. 

Eh?  ok...believe what you want.

Modifié par Aetika, 02 mars 2013 - 05:36 .

[Deerber]

DAO MAdhatter wrote...

Aetika wrote...

DAO MAdhatter wrote...

Why do people keep saying the drell adept is good? Together with the Asari justicar I consider them to be two of the weakest kits in the game. Their powers literally require either too much set up(Rushing to ur death to set up that god awful warp bubble) or netotiously inaccurate(cluster granades) & pull can only be used on enemies with no shields of armor.

I would easly consider the collector to be hugely more powerful.

Ooh, it´s quite dangerous to make such claims. There are always people who will prove you wrong. Besides, Drell Adept is known powerhouse and I can tell you right away, that I play AJA very often and she is far from weak.

no it's not. You have to be close foe those bs clusters to even hit what they are suppost to hit. Not to mention you might not even have them when you need them cause sum dumb*** with inferno granades keeps ninjaing them from every granade box. The collectors dark sphere is guaranteed to be usable. In the end powers win out. 

Given your claims, I can safely say that I can outscore you 3 to 1 while using a Drell Adept. Interested in how?

[your-friendly-noggin]

DAO MAdhatter wrote...

Aetika wrote...

DAO MAdhatter wrote...

Why do people keep saying the drell adept is good? Together with the Asari justicar I consider them to be two of the weakest kits in the game. Their powers literally require either too much set up(Rushing to ur death to set up that god awful warp bubble) or netotiously inaccurate(cluster granades) & pull can only be used on enemies with no shields of armor.

I would easly consider the collector to be hugely more powerful.

Ooh, it´s quite dangerous to make such claims. There are always people who will prove you wrong. Besides, Drell Adept is known powerhouse and I can tell you right away, that I play AJA very often and she is far from weak.

no it's not. You have to be close foe those bs clusters to even hit what they are suppost to hit. Not to mention you might not even have them when you need them cause sum dumb*** with inferno granades keeps ninjaing them from every granade box. The collectors dark sphere is guaranteed to be usable. In the end powers win out. 

Hey now, I might prefer the collector but I've rocked the drell adept a few times and while it may not be strong in my hands the cluster grenades aren't that hard to aim , much like the collector it just takes some getting used to. There are some really impressive DA players out there, making use of his speed to rush from ammo box to ammo box while cluster and biotic bombing spawns to hell! They are two very different play styles but both characters are pretty strong, the drell is just more in your face aggressive which is risky but strong while the collector is a bit more defensive and timing based.

Deerber wrote...

Given your claims, I can safely say that I can outscore you 3 to 1 while using a Drell Adept. Interested in how?

If you want to defend the character maybe point out where he is strong, like his speed and fast acting powers rather than turn this into a "I can score way more points then you" competition which isn't going to prove anything.

Modifié par your-friendly-noggin, 02 mars 2013 - 05:55 .