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[N7-RedFox]

I use Awakened Collector in Platinum and he works just fine.

I spec into Dark Channel for max DPS and also spec Swarms to evo 6 (full damage reduction). I use the swarms to detonate DC-primed targets. I also give him CSMG X (he gets +10% damage for using a collector weapon) + HVB and Clip. Then for gear its Expert Pack V for another +12% SMG damage and faster power recharges. Add some incendiary ammo and ur laughing. The swarms even detonate targets which are on fire for fire explosions.

[lightswitch]

N7-RedFox wrote...

I use Awakened Collector in Platinum and he works just fine.

I spec into Dark Channel for max DPS and also spec Swarms to evo 6 (full damage reduction). I use the swarms to detonate DC-primed targets. I also give him CSMG X (he gets +10% damage for using a collector weapon) + HVB and Clip. Then for gear its Expert Pack V for another +12% SMG damage and faster power recharges. Add some incendiary ammo and ur laughing. The swarms even detonate targets which are on fire for fire explosions.

So you spec out of Dark Sphere?

[Grumpy Old Wizard]

N7-RedFox wrote...

I use Awakened Collector in Platinum and he works just fine.

I spec into Dark Channel for max DPS and also spec Swarms to evo 6 (full damage reduction). I use the swarms to detonate DC-primed targets. I also give him CSMG X (he gets +10% damage for using a collector weapon) + HVB and Clip. Then for gear its Expert Pack V for another +12% SMG damage and faster power recharges. Add some incendiary ammo and ur laughing. The swarms even detonate targets which are on fire for fire explosions.

So you use the incendiary glitch and shooooot, shoooooot, shooooooooot!!  Got it. 

Me, I prefer not to play every class the same and to play adepts as ****gasp*** casters.  The cooldowns are simply too long and the animation times too long.  Sometimes things go smoothly, yeah.  But when things start to go bad and the squad starts dropping, and that phantom and dragoon decides to throw you a party and your on your "eternity cooldown" you're screwed.

I think I need to drop that collector smg and go back to the scorpion.

As for the question on which is better, the human adept or collector it is no contest to me.  The human adept.  He can deal with any situation and is MUCH better with dealing with bosses.  His powers are also available to him far more often then the collectors and the animation times are not stupidly long.

Modifié par Grumpy Old Wizard, 02 mars 2013 - 11:07 .

[HolyAvenger]

Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...

So you use the incendiary glitch and shooooot, shoooooot, shooooooooot!!  Got it. 

 

Collector can't do the warp/incendiary glitch. He doesn't have warp.


People complaining about the animations...you do know you can move during them right? I often start casting DS in soft cover, and then pop out at the last second to ensure its flight towards the enemy. 

[WaffleCrab]

lightswitch wrote...

WaffleCrab wrote...

#3. its up to the player to find a gem like this, some people just cant get it, some people realize the value instantly.

And other players are good enough to realize once they get in-game that even though the concept is great the actual reality of the tools given them severely gimp their potential damage output.

What do I have to do, post some screens of scores I've gotten in PUG games? Tell you what I normally score in a gold match?

I'll put it this way. I've seen people trying to assert the kit is good because using it they've gotten as much 130k (ballpark), and/or they consistently break the 80k mark. I am not impressed by these numbers at all. To the contrary, they confirm what I already suspect.

I love it when people automatically assume that when someone tellls them they know how to use it well, means they automatically mean the score they get, your arguments in this matter are no longer valid. Good day sir.

[Deerber]

HolyAvenger wrote...

Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...

So you use the incendiary glitch and shooooot, shoooooot, shooooooooot!!  Got it. 

 

Collector can't do the warp/incendiary glitch. He doesn't have warp.


People complaining about the animations...you do know you can move during them right? I often start casting DS in soft cover, and then pop out at the last second to ensure its flight towards the enemy. 

Well, technically, incendiary ammo on fast firing weapons are already glitched per-se. Although it gets way worse with warp, yeah.

Also, that trick only works for DS. You can't do that with swarms or ascension mode.

WaffleCrab wrote...

#1. i do not need the detonation, the DS already does a massive amount of damage the way i have specced it.
#2. i have a power mag, 5 slapped on a hurricane 5. so i dont actually need to glitch the CD system like others are.
#3. its up to the player to find a gem like this, some people just cant get it, some people realize the value instantly.

Sorry, I really can't take you seriously.

[WaffleCrab]

Deerber wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...

So you use the incendiary glitch and shooooot, shoooooot, shooooooooot!!  Got it. 

 

Collector can't do the warp/incendiary glitch. He doesn't have warp.


People complaining about the animations...you do know you can move during them right? I often start casting DS in soft cover, and then pop out at the last second to ensure its flight towards the enemy. 

Well, technically, incendiary ammo on fast firing weapons are already glitched per-se. Although it gets way worse with warp, yeah.

Also, that trick only works for DS. You can't do that with swarms or ascension mode.

WaffleCrab wrote...

#1. i do not need the detonation, the DS already does a massive amount of damage the way i have specced it.
#2. i have a power mag, 5 slapped on a hurricane 5. so i dont actually need to glitch the CD system like others are.
#3. its up to the player to find a gem like this, some people just cant get it, some people realize the value instantly.

Sorry, I really can't take you seriously.

I pointed it out because i have witnessed collector adepts who use the DS way too quickly, not my problem if you are having difficulties understanding what is written, which means, when the skill is in CD i have another form of dealing bundles of damage, without having to sacrifice my DR from swarm, good day sir, you clearly dont use your own brains, care to hand em out as a zombie snack?

[Lokiwithrope]

Is it just me, or does everyone say every Reckoning Character is good in theory but bad in practice?

[WaffleCrab]

Lokiwithrope wrote...

Is it just me, or does everyone say every Reckoning Character is good in theory but bad in practice?

Just the noobs like deerber xD

Modifié par WaffleCrab, 04 mars 2013 - 08:57 .

[Deerber]

Lokiwithrope wrote...

Is it just me, or does everyone say every Reckoning Character is good in theory but bad in practice?

Actually, Collector and Talon are the only ones that can be defined in that way to me.

Warlord and Juggernaut are just for fun, efficiency-wise they're bad both in theory and in practice.

EDI is an abomination both in theory and in practice.

The Cabal is awesome both in theory and in practice (although a little bit less in practice... )

[Homey C-Dawg]

I just started using him yesterday and liked him immediately. Haven't taken him into plat yet but on gold he's hella fun.

[lightswitch]

billy the squid wrote...

Yep, I'll definately let you guys know what I find if I get time to test it out tonight. I think it may improve people's opinion of the Collector if they can cast something that causes over 3000 damage every 4 seconds. 

Did you have any luck with this? If you have I would really like to know about it.

[darkpassenger2342]

everyone is entitled to their opinions, but i think he's amazing.

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

He seemed plenty powerful and not that hard to play to me.