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nrobbiec

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ME3 has some great deaths. Powerful scenes from Thane and Legion. Mordin and Tali's scenes are so sad I never let them happen again. And on the flipside, I really don't like Cortez so I let him die.

My main focus here though is Miranda, if she dies on Horizon, the scene is so much better. The way Shepard says "you thought of everything" and then when he plays her voice telling people to stay away from Sanctuary. I don't care for Miranda anyway but I let her live since to me it doesn't make much sense from an RP perspective to meet the conditions to let her die. I do miss that scene though.

Anyone else feel similarly, love any particular npc deaths or prefer their deaths but let them live?

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RZIBARA

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the romance version of her death is even better. In fact i prefer to let miranda die if i romance her, because you get a much more satisfying conclusion to the romance. Go watch it on youtube

Oh, and i actually feel that letting the quarians and tali die makes for a more emotional scene than peace or siding with the quarians

Modifié par RZIBARA, 01 mars 2013 - 09:24 .


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inko1nsiderate

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I really enjoyed my rush through run that lead to the death of many many people. Gunning down the VS is an amazing scene. Shooting Mordin is a gut wrenching decision and I love that you can finally push a friend to the point that you disagree so strongly that violence results. Killing Wrex is also amazing, he goes out like a Krogan and you really start to feel the weight of your ****ty decisions. And if you rush it fast enough at the end your final choices are kill everyone to kill the Reapers, refuse, or Control after losing your remaining friends in the beam run.

It feels like a totally different game from my more serious runs because the **** keeps piling up and by the end everything pretty much sucks. I have to say that I do enjoy it a lot.  

In most of my runs though, these decisions don't make sense so I avoid them.  But wreckless Renegade Shepard is wreckless and mean.

Modifié par inko1nsiderate, 01 mars 2013 - 09:14 .


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Romaning Tali and choosing the Geth.

Shooting Mordin.



And the grand prize goes to:

Letting Samara shoot herself and then shooting Falere.

#1 moment of absolute confusion and sociopathy.

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Dear God the Rannoch scenes. Tali's death is perhaps the most heart-wrenching scene in the trilogy, and like you, I will never let that happen in any playthrough. Legion's death is also good but at a lower level, though if you play an "AI is not life" Shepard, it can be a powerful character defining cold hearted scene.

Modifié par justafan, 01 mars 2013 - 09:24 .


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I could tolerate Thane and Legion's deaths if the premise behind their deaths weren't so hamfisted. Miranda's death (romanced) is one of two (along with Mordin) that is emotionally engaging as well as making sense.

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o Ventus wrote...

I could tolerate Thane and Legion's deaths if the premise behind their deaths weren't so hamfisted. Miranda's death (romanced) is one of two (along with Mordin) that is emotionally engaging as well as making sense.


yes miranda dying during the romance is actually better than if she lives

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I still remember Tali taking the plunge.

I have to admit I totally wasn't paying attention (there was too much "oh, come on!" happening with the story and the plot, so I sort of stopped really listening to everything that was going on), and then I picked an option, and then Tali was walking off cliffs. I was like "where are you going?"; maybe she was hot and wanted to take a swim or something. I think it was well done, but I doubt I'd ever purposely let it happen.

Mordin's death was fitting, as was Miranda's (part of the "oh, come on!" that was happening led to just not visiting Miranda on the Citadel at all).

Modifié par devSin, 01 mars 2013 - 09:47 .


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Yeah in my Miranda romance playthrough she died on Horizon. You can sense how bad Shepard feels about it and the dialogue between them is really well written. The saddest bit is when a squad mate sends out Miranda's message and Shepard just looks down briefly one he hears her voice after she died.

Here it is if anybody hasn't seen it, a much better ending to her romance than the dialogue on Earth:



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I'm going to be honest, I don't think the shooting Mordin and Tali cliff-jumping scenes are terribly well-done at all. I YouTubed them and they got next to no emotion out of me, despite them being two of my favourite characters.

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RZIBARA wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

I could tolerate Thane and Legion's deaths if the premise behind their deaths weren't so hamfisted. Miranda's death (romanced) is one of two (along with Mordin) that is emotionally engaging as well as making sense.


yes miranda dying during the romance is actually better than if she lives


It's a damn shame her death-by-gunshot variant is pants-on-head retarded. It's so polarizing.

All said, Miranda will never die in my games.

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nrobbiec wrote...
ME3 has some great deaths. Powerful scenes from Thane and Legion. Mordin and Tali's scenes are so sad I never let them happen again. And on the flipside, I really don't like Cortez so I let him die.
My main focus here though is Miranda, if she dies on Horizon, the scene is so much better. The way Shepard says "you thought of everything" and then when he plays her voice telling people to stay away from Sanctuary. I don't care for Miranda anyway but I let her live since to me it doesn't make much sense from an RP perspective to meet the conditions to let her die. I do miss that scene though.
Anyone else feel similarly, love any particular npc deaths or prefer their deaths but let them live?

Yep, in my canon playthrough, Morinth killed Shepard and he's much better off that way, hella cool ending. It was one of the few decisions in the game that had real consequences for Shepard.

Modifié par bobobo878, 01 mars 2013 - 10:01 .


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RZIBARA

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ZacTB wrote...

Yeah in my Miranda romance playthrough she died on Horizon. You can sense how bad Shepard feels about it and the dialogue between them is really well written. The saddest bit is when a squad mate sends out Miranda's message and Shepard just looks down briefly one he hears her voice after she died.

Here it is if anybody hasn't seen it, a much better ending to her romance than the dialogue on Earth:



here one with better quality



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o Ventus wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

I could tolerate Thane and Legion's deaths if the premise behind their deaths weren't so hamfisted. Miranda's death (romanced) is one of two (along with Mordin) that is emotionally engaging as well as making sense.


yes miranda dying during the romance is actually better than if she lives


It's a damn shame her death-by-gunshot variant is pants-on-head retarded. It's so polarizing.

All said, Miranda will never die in my games.


yep. but in any playthrough i do id rather her die (main romance is ash,  miranda is the only other person i romance)

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My problem with the Tali/Rann situation is-- one of them should shoot Legion repeatedly, to hell with your orders. And Rann might just put a cap in Shep too.

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Cortez can die?

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Sentient6 wrote...

Cortez can die?

If you don't talk to him and help him through his grief, he dies in the shuttle crash. The reaction from one of the squad you have with you is just as awful as the "Steve!" shout that male Shepard does (that everybody makes fun of).

Unfortunately, the whole thing just turned out being silly, due to the wacky reactions.

Modifié par devSin, 01 mars 2013 - 10:20 .


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Sentient6 wrote...

Cortez can die?


Yep, if you don't help him move beyond the loss of his husband.

As for Miranda...I've seen the yt vids, but I really don't feel like it's that much more impactful. Maybe I am selfish but I'd rather have Miranda still be around in whatever world Shep leaves behind :P

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better dead than reaper'd

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devSin wrote...

Sentient6 wrote...

Cortez can die?

If you don't talk to him and help him through his grief, he dies in the shuttle crash. The reaction from one of the squad you have with you is just as awful as the "Steve!" shout that male Shepard does (that everybody makes fun of).

Unfortunately, the whole thing just turned out being silly, due to the wacky reactions.


Steve dies. Crew then activates failed attempt of turning super Sayain.:pinched:

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nrobbiec

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Fortunately I always get Vega's reaction and his is tolerable. VS reactions are just...Oo

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I love how nearly all the deaths were handled, except for 2. Unloyal Zaeed and Jack (if you don't do Grissom Acadamy). Those were flipping awful. But I absolutely loved all the others.

Mordin's death (any version is amazing) and Thane's stand out as my faves though.

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I did a speed run and enjoyed killing Mordin
seeing Tali do a swan dive
killing Wrex on the Citadel
watching Samara blow her brains out then killing her daughter
And the best part is I still got the breath scene.

As far as Miranda goes, I only had her die once to see what happens.

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I think letting Samara shoot herself is a far more fitting and powerful conclusion to her character arc than persuading her out of it.
It helps that the reasoning you use to convince her that Falere will not be a threat is pants-on-head retarded.

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Grissom Academy is better without Jack, IMO.

Don't get me wrong. I like ME2 Jack. I like ME3 Jack. But ME2 Jack is not ME3 Jack. That transition made no sense at all, particularly if you went renegade in her loyalty mission.