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[masster blaster]

You do realize Stan is a mod right, and not a Bioware worker. Me my mod the site, but that's his opinion.

[TheProtheans]

IT should not be banned from discussion,

[Sentient6]

Maybe the theory reminds BW of what the ending was suppose to be, and it makes the pain of what it eventually became that much more severe....

[dreamgazer]

dorktainian wrote...

XXIceColdXX wrote...

Ninja Stan is not a dev and is wrong. Devs have stated IT is a valid interpretation of the ending.

Even Priestly and Merizan have said that one of their playthroughs is in line with IT.

Yep. Devs know stuff. Moderators look for naughty words.

Merizan and Priestly are closer to moderators than devs, though they're neither. And it's not unreasonable for community managers to have dedicated experiences (playthroughs) based on a sizable part of the community's base, for an "analysis" of their viewpoint. A form of "market research".

The "theory" was shot in the kneecaps with the Extended Cut. Part of the ideology will always make sense in an interpretation of the decision chamber's alignment, the dreams, and the Citadel being surreal as hell, but that's as far as it goes.

[OdanUrr]

ElSuperGecko wrote...

Unfortunately, a moderator's decision to essentially pour scorn on the ideas, opinions and year-long speculation of a section of their fan base has poured cold water over that enthusiasm.

Frankly if that's going to be the forum's offical line on their fans speculating on the story they've created, then forget it.  I'm no longer interested.

Scorn? Where'd you get that from?

[Bill Casey]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

So they intended the racist rape ending...

Holy sensationalizing, Batman!

There's no sensationalizing...

[SpamBot2000]

KevinT18 wrote...

Why do people not understand - if the creator of a work says your metaphysical/hallucinative interpretation of their work isnt true IT ISNT TRUE. IT is NOT true.

Ninja Stan is the creator of Mass Effect? 

If only they had. But they chose to push the "every interpretation is valid" speculation stuff to mollify some of their audience for too long. 

[ElSuperGecko]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...
So they intended the racist rape ending...

Holy sensationalizing, Batman!

And yet, when you get right down to it, entirely accurate.

[ElSuperGecko]

OdanUrr wrote...
Scorn? Where'd you get that from?

When has the word "relegated" ever had constructive or positive connotations?

[Leonardo the Magnificent]

Bill Casey wrote...

So they intended the racist rape war crime ending...
I will enjoy watching Bioware die a slow and painful death as EA digests them into its bowels...

While they didn't intend the "Shepard wakes up and gets vaporized ending." Really, now, if you're going to use intentionally derogatory language to communicate a point, you might as well not make the point at all.

[DarkSeraphym]

masster blaster wrote...

You do realize Stan is a mod right, and not a Bioware worker. Me my mod the site, but that's his opinion.

Stan worked for BioWare during the time that ME3 was in development. That is why people give him any credibility at all.

[masster blaster]

For the last time HE IS A MOD.HE IS NOT a bioware worker. If it came from CP, then IT would be a fan theory, but again. tTHIS was just HIS opinion, not Bioware's

[XXIceColdXX]

OdanUrr wrote...

XXIceColdXX wrote...

Ninja Stan is not a dev. Those sort of decisions whether IT is right or wrong is above his pay grade. Devs have stated IT is a valid interpretation of the ending.

Even Priestly and Merizan have said that one of their playthroughs is in line with IT.

All he said was that it was an interpreation put together by the fans, which is true. I can look for the threads if you like.

Your right, I was just saying this because OP seemed to think what Stan said debunked the IT theory.

Modifié par XXIceColdXX, 01 mars 2013 - 11:04 .

[OdanUrr]

ElSuperGecko wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...
Scorn? Where'd you get that from?

When has the word "relegated" ever had constructive or positive connotations?

Point. But I still think you're overreacting.

[The Heretic of Time]

clennon8 wrote...

Literalists can rejoice.

Rejoice? Why would we "literalists" rejoice about this?

[Seboist]

clennon8 wrote...

Literalists can rejoice.  Bad Writing Theory has been vindicated.  A statement (of questionable truthfulness) from spoilsport Ninja Stan:

SpamBot2000 wrote...

It's a theory about the ending that BioWare used to encourage, but now will close any thread if they feature it. Based on the obvious 'indoctrination' elements during the finale that BW put in, since they actually intended there to be a scene of Shep fighting indoctrination. But then they couldn't figure out how to make it playable, so they abandoned it. Still left all the effects in though. Because they don't really give a damn.

BioWare has never "encouraged" IT or its discussion. IT has always been a fan-made interpretation of events, and its discussion should be relegated to Group discussions. Thank you.

End of line.

Bad writing fact was vindicated a long time ago.





So tell me, was refusing to face facts for a year and desperately clinging to IT worth it?

[dorktainian]

ElSuperGecko wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...
So they intended the racist rape ending...

Holy sensationalizing, Batman!

And yet, when you get right down to it, entirely accurate.

if you refer to the unpermitted violation of every sentient creature in the universe, due to the poor choice of someone who is clearly undergoing indoctrination... then i agree completely.    

Diversity for me.  The rest of you...enjoy the goo.

[devSin]

masster blaster wrote...

You do realize Stan is a mod right, and not a Bioware worker. Me my mod the site, but that's his opinion.

As noted, Stan worked at BioWare throughout the entire development of the Mass Effect trilogy, and only departed last year (after the completion and release of ME3).

If you give any credence to the things Chris and Jessica say, then you should also do the same for Stan (who worked right alongside Chris on the community team).

[masster blaster]

DarkSeraphym wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

You do realize Stan is a mod right, and not a Bioware worker. Me my mod the site, but that's his opinion.

Stan worked for BioWare during the time that ME3 was in development. That is why people give him any credibility at all.

Then did he get fired, or did he quit? Also when? Was it during the creation of the first half of ME3, or after the first half of ME3?

[MegaSovereign]

masster blaster wrote...

For the last time HE IS A MOD.HE IS NOT a bioware worker. If it came from CP, then IT would be a fan theory, but again. tTHIS was just HIS opinion, not Bioware's

...

It literally is a fan-made Theory.

[clennon8]

This is good, really. Finally someone at Bioware had the balls to just tell us what was up instead of continuing to string us along or trying to quietly shuffle us off to a dark corner. Now we know, they really did screw up the ending of their otherwise epic trilogy THAT BADLY. Good to know.

Modifié par clennon8, 01 mars 2013 - 11:05 .

[Untold]

alsonamedbort wrote...

I can't believe this is so controversial. He said it was a fan-made idea. How is this not accurate?

Well, any ending is fan-made really. They seem to have designed it that way. There is absolutely nothing at all 100% definitive in any of the endings. They all are open to uh hrm..."lot's of speculation for everyone."

[masster blaster]

And if I ask Chris if IT is fan made, and he says no.. does this counter dict Stan's word's or no?

[SpamBot2000]

It can be argued that Ninja Stan in fact still works for BioWare, only on a more of a pro bono basis.

Modifié par SpamBot2000, 01 mars 2013 - 11:06 .