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[alhamel94]

 about the lancer breaking lore?

[Aethyl]

Desperate mesures -> Lack of resources -> Bringing back the olds but still efficient weapons.

Problem solved.

[8 Bears]

Because the lore has been broken in about a thousand different ways already by MP, everyone stopped caring.

[Lukeman1884]

How does it break lore? It isn't mass-produced, some dude just decided to retrofit a few for funs.

[ManOfSteel]

How does the Lancer break lore?

It's a returning Assault Rifle, manufactured by Hahne-Kedar and something of a precursor to the M-8. Desperate times call for desperate measures, hence the use of older weapons.

Modifié par DoomHK, 02 mars 2013 - 12:17 .

[Rebel_Raven]

How on earth does it break lore? It's entirely possible to have older weapons in a modern war. Lancer's not even that old, I dare say. Mass effect 1 was maybe 4-5 years ago in the mass effect timeline?

[Tokenusername]

It doesn't break lore. It's just "outdated" technology.

Rebel_Raven wrote...

How on earth does it break lore? It's
entirely possible to have older weapons in a modern war. Lancer's not
even that old, I dare say. Mass effect 1 was maybe 4-5 years ago in the
mass effect timeline?

I believe it's 3 years.

Modifié par Tokenusername, 02 mars 2013 - 12:19 .

[JediHarbinger]

Description said it was improved by an unknown source 

There's ya lore right there bruh.

Modifié par JediHarbinger, 02 mars 2013 - 12:19 .

[lazysundae]

We're busy complaining about other things. It's hard to multitask sometimes.

[iiProdigyv]

If you were in a war with a mass army and limited weapons, you wouldn't use an older gun?
Might as well run around with your pants around your ankles clucking like a chicken..

[ManOfSteel]

Rebel_Raven wrote...

How on earth does it break lore? It's entirely possible to have older weapons in a modern war. Lancer's not even that old, I dare say. Mass effect 1 was maybe 4-5 years ago in the mass effect timeline?

Indeed. The gap between ME1 and ME3 is even smaller than that, so there's absolutely no reason why the M-7 couldn't appear.

[Chi_Mangetsu]

Aethyl wrote...

Desperate mesures -> Lack of resources -> Bringing back the olds but still efficient weapons.

Problem solved.

Yup. Pretty much the same idea behind the Mattock in ME2 for it's single shot firing capabilities. But retro in a different way.

[alhamel94]

DoomHK wrote...

Rebel_Raven wrote...

How on earth does it break lore? It's entirely possible to have older weapons in a modern war. Lancer's not even that old, I dare say. Mass effect 1 was maybe 4-5 years ago in the mass effect timeline?

Indeed. The gap between ME1 and ME3 is even smaller than that, so there's absolutely no reason why the M-7 couldn't appear.

yes but the fact the it is so powerful is what breaks the lore. in theory thermal clips are utilized to increase weapon power. the fact the old model without thermal clips is signifigantly more powerful than the avenger is what breaks the lore.

[HK-447]

Thermal clips are utilized to decrease the time between firing, so the gun wouldnt overheat and take a while to cool down, I never heard of thermal clips improving weapon power

[Rebel_Raven]

HK-447 wrote...

Thermal clips are utilized to decrease the time between firing, so the gun wouldnt overheat and take a while to cool down, I never heard of thermal clips improving weapon power

This.

The alliance picked up thermal clip ideas from the Geth who utilized it. Weapon power wan't a factor.

[RaptorSolutions]

alhamel94 wrote...

DoomHK wrote...

Rebel_Raven wrote...

How on earth does it break lore? It's entirely possible to have older weapons in a modern war. Lancer's not even that old, I dare say. Mass effect 1 was maybe 4-5 years ago in the mass effect timeline?

Indeed. The gap between ME1 and ME3 is even smaller than that, so there's absolutely no reason why the M-7 couldn't appear.

yes but the fact the it is so powerful is what breaks the lore. in theory thermal clips are utilized to increase weapon power. the fact the old model without thermal clips is signifigantly more powerful than the avenger is what breaks the lore.

Get your lore straight. Its utilized to increase overall firepower by increasing overall RoF because its easier for a trained soldier to reload rather than waiting for it to cooldown. Compare a standard AR without mods to let you fire forever to the current Avenger. One will keep up a greater volume of fire.

[alhamel94]

HK-447 wrote...

Thermal clips are utilized to decrease the time between firing, so the gun wouldnt overheat and take a while to cool down, I never heard of thermal clips improving weapon power

its in mass effect 2 i believe right around the time you meet up with jacob

[xBUMMx]

If you want to talk about guns breaking lore, look at Gears of War. How Mk II Lancers are in RAAM's Shadow and Judgement I'll never know. But I don't care, because chainsawing grubs is friggin fun.

[HK-447]

Well, even though the Avenger is more advanced lore-wise, I'd stick to the Lancer any day, and not because of the stats, but because of nostalgia

[Cyonan]

alhamel94 wrote...

DoomHK wrote...

Rebel_Raven wrote...

How on earth does it break lore? It's entirely possible to have older weapons in a modern war. Lancer's not even that old, I dare say. Mass effect 1 was maybe 4-5 years ago in the mass effect timeline?

Indeed. The gap between ME1 and ME3 is even smaller than that, so there's absolutely no reason why the M-7 couldn't appear.

yes but the fact the it is so powerful is what breaks the lore. in theory thermal clips are utilized to increase weapon power. the fact the old model without thermal clips is signifigantly more powerful than the avenger is what breaks the lore.

You should read the weapon's description =P

It actually addresses the weapon power thing.

Modifié par Cyonan, 02 mars 2013 - 12:37 .

[Catastrophy]

alhamel94 wrote...

 about the lancer breaking lore?

Because it doesn't?

[kipac]

alhamel94 wrote...

DoomHK wrote...

Rebel_Raven wrote...

How on earth does it break lore? It's entirely possible to have older weapons in a modern war. Lancer's not even that old, I dare say. Mass effect 1 was maybe 4-5 years ago in the mass effect timeline?

Indeed. The gap between ME1 and ME3 is even smaller than that, so there's absolutely no reason why the M-7 couldn't appear.

yes but the fact the it is so powerful is what breaks the lore. in theory thermal clips are utilized to increase weapon power. the fact the old model without thermal clips is signifigantly more powerful than the avenger is what breaks the lore.

No it's not. Thermal clips are used so that people could shoot more often without having to worry about overheating weapons. 
It was changed to thermal clip system so that people could fire more frequently without wasting time.

[jacob taylor416]

HK-447 wrote...

Thermal clips are utilized to decrease the time between firing, so the gun wouldnt overheat and take a while to cool down, I never heard of thermal clips improving weapon power

Same, I know it was mainly for improving fire rate and less maintenance but not fire power 

[ToLazy4Name]

alhamel94 wrote...

DoomHK wrote...

Rebel_Raven wrote...

How on earth does it break lore? It's entirely possible to have older weapons in a modern war. Lancer's not even that old, I dare say. Mass effect 1 was maybe 4-5 years ago in the mass effect timeline?

Indeed. The gap between ME1 and ME3 is even smaller than that, so there's absolutely no reason why the M-7 couldn't appear.

yes but the fact the it is so powerful is what breaks the lore. in theory thermal clips are utilized to increase weapon power. the fact the old model without thermal clips is signifigantly more powerful than the avenger is what breaks the lore.

LOL no. 

Thermal clips were introduced so they you could continue firing so long as you have them at the ready, instead of being forced to adhere to your gun's cooldown. It's like the difference in the Typhoon and Particle Rifle. 

[Astartes Marine]

RaptorSolutions wrote...
Get your lore straight. Its utilized to increase overall firepower by increasing overall RoF because its easier for a trained soldier to reload rather than waiting for it to cooldown. Compare a standard AR without mods to let you fire forever to the current Avenger. One will keep up a greater volume of fire.

If those soldiers knew the value of frictionless materials then there would be no overheat...ever.  I distincly remember being able to fire the HMWA weapons without regard for heat because of them.

Kinda defeats the idea of thermal clips if you have the firepower and no fear of overheat.