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The big list of everything that can go wrong when playing off-host, by power, class, and equipment.


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JushtFinisht

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Projectile Powers

Pull, Singularity, Warp, Throw, Lash, Concussive Shot, Carnage, Cryo Blast, etc.

Geez, what can go wrong here? Namely, the game won't even show you that the target has already been affected by one of these powers until 1-2 seconds after! You want to create a quick biotic explosion with Pull + Reave? Guess what, you'll have to trust your cooldown because sometimes the Pull projectile will show up so late.

The Awakened Collector apparently has a glitch where his Dark Sphere is not responsive to firing and detonating.

Annihilation Field

Almost similar to above. You won't know that your enemy is affected by Annihilation Field's priming until a whole 1-2 seconds later. That's enough to get killed. Two times.

Biotic Charge, Havoc Strike, Poison Strike


Ah, yes, remember the good old days when you were floating above the air if you charged right as you were dying? Well even after they've fixed that, there's still a huge delay when using this power off-host! And yet you can move or fire your gun almost instantly. Delays like this can mean going to Wave 9 or wiping out!

Havoc Strike performs in similar ways except almost worse because it doesn't restore barriers. And on the Havoc, even trying to use a Stimulant Pack off-host after doing so is frustrating!

And Poison Strike? You might THINK that just because it doesn't need a target that it doesn't lag. But it does! Sometimes, you can press to Poison Strike 100 times in the same spot with NO obstructions in front of you and still not perform a strike!

Biotic Orbs, Phase Disruptor, Seeker Swarms, Siege Pulse (+ Nova)

Okay, I have no idea why Bioware would let something annoying like this happen. I play the Slayer as host and he pins down enemies in no time with Phase Disruptor. Off-host, ALWAYS, no matter how quickly I tap the left power button, his disruptor fires so slow. TOO SLOW. Same thing happens for the powers that SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE FIRED BACK TO BACK, but there's this thing called off-hostnia, it seems.

Nova seems to act similarly to Phase Disruptor off-host in that takes a whole second or two to connect. Another life-or-death situation.

Shield Boost, Biotic Focus, Stimulant Pack, Repair Matrix

Oh look, my shields went down. Guess I'll heal myself with my powers. Nope. Still dead. Look down for a related issue - the Ops Survival Pack.

And even overpowered Repair Matrix might be, it sometimes doesn't revive you off-host! Leaving you with a green overlay even when your repeatedly press [button] prompt appears on your screen!

Grenades

Geez, I'm getting tired of throwing duds! I'm throwing a grenade, it looks like, but how come my grenade count isn't going down? How come enemy no 'splode? WHAT?

Heavy Melees

I play as a Vorcha. I heavy melee. Enemy dies a whole second after he's supposed to.

I play as the Slayer. His sword attack takes too long to respond. Guess what? He somehow has to put away his sword in front of all his enemies instead of leaving it unsheathed. Teammate has gone dark!

I play as the Brawler. I want to hatesurf immediately after charging. Nope. Doesn't register. I end up punching the air because the game somehow didn't get that I can actually hold down the melee button after charging.

OH, and Talon Mercenary? He is a BEAST as the host. All his shots connect and his trip mine lasers never stay on the map (but do nothing), confusing you as to where you actually placed your actual, working trip mines.

Teleports and Dodges

The Fury, Slayer, and Cabal are the most heavy hit. While the Cabal can still maintain non-lag Fury/Slayer level teleport time (her teleport is INSTANT though with no lag), the former two are a second behind the present!

Cobra Missile Launcher, and switching to other weapons

Okay, why does it take me so long to switch my weapons? Why can't I shoot this damn missile at these three Brutes who are trying to crush me after I used three medi-gel consecutively? Life and death people, life and death!

There's also a situation where you actually get to even shoot the Cobra and all of a sudden you still end up dead!

Ops Survival Pack


Come on, if you're going to heal my dead body at least bring me back up! Why else SHOW the healing animation when I'm STILL going down!? What is this treachery!?!?

Projectile Weapons

Kishock Harpoon Gun, Javelin, Geth Plasma Shotgun, Falcon, Adas, Graal Spike Thrower. Please, my bullets, please at least try to hit where I want to aim, PLEASE, and not lag behind a whole second.

Magnet Hands, Rewinding Tape Measure, whatever

It was long ago that Banshees' magnet hands reached extreme distances, but now Phantoms can start to exhibit the same powers. Frightening.

Lagging Damage on Enemies

I hit an enemy with a Widow X. It takes a whole two seconds for my shot to register. I actually see the armor bar of a Brute go down, with no eyes on him but my sniper self. At first, I thought there was a magical being watching over me, shaving off Brutes' health. But no the past is catching up to the present it seems.

I KNOW I'm missing more things here. Reply so I can add them!

Modifié par JushtFinisht, 03 mars 2013 - 04:24 .


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Rucent

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I had a situation with a laggy host where I fired a missile at a small pile of Marauders, died immediately, and then watched them all die to my missile 2-3 seconds later.

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crashmatusow

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Terrible netcode is terrible full story at 10

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BurningLiquor

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Dark Sphere refusing to fire up to 4-5 times in a row when off-host. Also refusing to detonate. So annoying.

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BlackDahlia424

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Any projectile power or gun. The Talon Merc is host-only. The Venom, Graal, Kishock, etc. are all worthless off host.

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eye basher

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I play off host only and i've never seen any of this stuff.Hell even this far into the multiplayer i've still haven't seen the vangaurd glitch.

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longgamma

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Novaguard is useless off host.

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vkt62

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Poison strike problem also occurs on host.
You have to press and hold the key for some of the powers to get activated sometimes.

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AzureSky899

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So that's why my Cabal ignores my PS commands......damn you BW, fix this!!!! (I thought they fixed vanguards as it never happened to me after supposed fix)

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OniAngel

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I love the times when I die and the server hits the rewind button and revives me to where I was a second before my death.

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Eckswhyzed

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Pretty much everything can break with enough lag.

Even on 300ms I've had pretty much every power not work at some point.

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Diogo Marzo

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I've been enduring the same nonsense. How about trying to use a graal spike thrower off host. Lotsa spikes on the walls. Or when you shoot a kook point blank in the head and it takes a fraction of the damage that it should? I've unloaded two full clips from a hurricane at a cannibal and it lost two bars then broke through my shield gate and health gate in one spray. Adding insult to injury is when the pug thinks its you that's sucking... Anywho, it's not just powers, it's guns too.

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p13guy

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Active matrix doesn't always revive off host.

Also,
Hex shield will have a deploying animation and start cooldown, but it will never appear. It's not that it was destroyed immediately because I've had it happen while 1v1 against a banshee with no enemies/teammates in sight.

Modifié par p13guy, 02 mars 2013 - 09:50 .


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X-Frame

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Dedicated Servers for ME4 plz!

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K9lArthur

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Umm, Javelin isn't a projectile weapon, it just has a firing delay...

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Leland Gaunt

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Everything can go wrong / is unreliable when not hosting.

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Lamiaaa

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Biotic Orbs, Phase Disruptor, Seeker Swarms, Siege Pulse (+ Nova)

the problem here is that the game seems to check sync with the host just like biotic charge and etc, which it's really unnecessary for the game to

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inversevideo

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I've given up, on N7 Slayer PD, and thinking of speccing out of that.
It just does not activate reliably off host. I guess I can also resign myself to not using him off host.

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Rucent wrote...

I had a situation with a laggy host where I fired a missile at a small pile of Marauders, died immediately, and then watched them all die to my missile 2-3 seconds later.


Or shooting an enemy, seeing it die, and seeing in the 'kill feed' that someone not even in the area is credited with the kill.

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MP-Ryan

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Novaguard and Slayer are pointless off-host above silver. The Cabal's dodge and PS are also unreliable off-host (not that reliable onhost either, try dodge on London sometime), making her either a soldier offhost or pointless as well.

Good off-host Vanguards: Asari, Drell, Krogan, Batarian, Volus.

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chcknwng

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Jav is not projectile but certainly sensitive to lag.

I had a lot of them recently. Used 5 Medigels as EDI because of getting killed by enemies after I killed them, repair matrix ani on but count didn't go down even I had pressed the button twice...

And most magically, soft cover. Died in complete soft cover (couldn't see any enemy) by taking fire shot st me a couple seconds ago.

Rage inducing.

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llandwynwyn

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Cabal rubber bands all over the place when you dodge or use PS.

old Turians may not receive stability from the passive.

Projectile weapons will fail to hit more than half the time.

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Titus Thongger

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the fact that you can just randomly die without knowing what hit you

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MasterPeras

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eye basher wrote...

I play off host only and i've never seen any of this stuff.Hell even this far into the multiplayer i've still haven't seen the vangaurd glitch.


You lucky boshtet<_<

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I've had a few moments when Devastator mode has stopped working and I have to reapply it.
Specifically, the Devastator screen is still up but I've lost the Devastator powers.