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[ZiRK]

Cyonan wrote...

Play whatever it is that you want to play.

Let the haters hate.

Yeeeea buddy, This^. This is not an e-sports, PvP, MLG-legit, gamebattles 420 blazeitnoscopes kind of game. If I want to strap on my tryhard pants and make scrubs cry, im going to play some Blops 2, if I want to turn my brain off, enjoy fantastic visuals and punch aliens in the head so hard they explode, ill grab my Batarians and go to town on some gold reapers 

[Geek]

4 good players can make platinum trivial regardless of kit used. The edibot doesn't really change anything there.

[ZiRK]

Geek Fest wrote...

4 good players can make platinum trivial regardless of kit used. The edibot doesn't really change anything there.

QFT - thank you sir.

[BOSSTER23]

Geek Fest wrote...

4 good players can make platinum trivial regardless of kit used. The edibot doesn't really change anything there.

as long as this guy above isn't one of those four 

[xTh3xBusinessx]

Geek Fest wrote...

4 good players can make platinum trivial regardless of kit used. The edibot doesn't really change anything there.

Thats one of the points I want to hear. People say its boring when ppl play with them. Why is it? Because the game is fast?(if the players are good). If so, they have never played in a lobby with all rly good players. Some people find the game boring if it does not take 30mins? But the main point was about good players liking these kits. Genuinely liking them. Like Lord Sirian maining the GI. Awesome player....hated kit by alot of BSN. 

[ZiRK]

BOSSTER23 wrote...

Geek Fest wrote...

4 good players can make platinum trivial regardless of kit used. The edibot doesn't really change anything there.

as long as this guy above isn't one of those four 

Im sorry, what?

[PinkiePipes]

I refuse to use the sexbot . But everything else is fair game, i normally pick classes to do with what challenges i have near completion, so if i need to pick the TGI or something , i pick it because of that.

I dont question other players choices , even the highest N7s can die with crutch classes regardless , but i do smile when i see people picking the "lesser" characters , so to speak .

[Cyonan]

Mr SeVerS wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

Play whatever it is that you want to play.

Let the haters hate.

Yeeeea buddy, This^. This is not an e-sports, PvP, MLG-legit, gamebattles 420 blazeitnoscopes kind of game. If I want to strap on my tryhard pants and make scrubs cry, im going to play some Blops 2, if I want to turn my brain off, enjoy fantastic visuals and punch aliens in the head so hard they explode, ill grab my Batarians and go to town on some gold reapers 

Even in PvP games I play what I want.

The only exception was occasionally playing healer for my girlfriend in WoW.

[Hope.Is.Lost]

I don't mind if people play the OP kits, I do too, I just got voted to kick using the AIU with Claymore IX and full gear, this was also on a U/U/P search that dropped me in a Rio Lobby, pug morale compass is off a bit.

[IamZAE]

Cyonan wrote...

Play whatever it is that you want to play.

Let the haters hate.

haters gonna hate. Ballers gonna ball. Nerfers gonna nerf. I say eph em all

[Rip504]

Turian and Human Sent. No need for anything else really.

[Sailears]

I admit I love the AIU, all because of the light and heavy melee.

I also apologise to some PUGs for being too way reckless while having zero medigel (and not having RM active). I don't make a habit of that, sorry!

[GallowsPole]

When you going to learn BSN is full of hypocrites. The things that give them advantage, you know, clever use of game mechanics, is all good, but then try and belittle you for using certain kits or playing certain difficulties.

In other words, don't listen to the BSN. The inmates run the asylum. Just play for fun and any way you want to play it.

[Jonty38]

I use the EDI. It is a fun class to play as. I also play as the N7 class, and any infiltrator out there (the best class type?).

[Miclotov]

CrimsonN7 wrote...

Don't really care what others think of the classes I play with, I play for fun.

What the lady said.

These people complaining about "op" classes and or skills, unless they really where "op" are just whiny people who simply love to complain. Imagine them in a supermarket, where they complain to the store manage that the bananas are too yellow.

[kaileena_sands]

Cyonan wrote...

Play whatever it is that you want to play.

Let the haters hate.

This, so much this.

A thing that a lot of BSNers can never understand is the old saying "live and let live". And I am not talking about abysmal pugs. I am talking about the so-called here "bad players" that can only play gold using a "crutch" class like a TGI or recently EDI-clone.

If you ask me, everyone should be grateful about the TGI and EDI. Why? Because, simply, everyone wants to play gold and get a lot of credits. Naturally, a lot of people overreach and fail miserably. Usually at the expense of their team. What is the worst aspect of bad pugs? For me, it's their constant dying (and not medigelling afterwards). If I have someone in the team that ended gold with 30k, but helped with objectives and didn't go down a lot/medigelled, rocketed in a bad situation... he's never getting kicked, and I won't goon the forums and post a topic  like a stupid crybaby  and complain about how pugs suck and show my l33t score.

So what is actually the most important thing about the TGI/EDI that makes them so OP? They don't DIE. They eliminate the biggest annoyance of subpar pugs. And what's even more fun to note is that even with such "OP" characters, they won't score very much either. But they'll survive most of the time so that the rest of us don't have to solo/duo wave after wave. And that, for me is a good thing.

Why? Because I am not one of those that  strictly think that people shouldn't play above their level. IF they don't cause much grief to the team, uhmmm... why not? It's the fault of the terrible RNG after all. With the many URs that sometimes seems to have a drop rate of 0.0000000001%, I totally understand why they want to play gold and get more money without being ready for it. I look at it this way - they are screwing the RNG, and I can fully support that.

I simply cannot understand why people are bothered that so called "bad players" will do well with an "OP" kit. It's quite fun for me when someone says "it's because you don't like being outscored, lol, score wh*re" and of course in return those people immediately get super defensive and say that it's a matter of principle or something. But I don't think getting outscored by potentially worse players is the main reason, I suspect that most of the times the real reason is actually the old "it's not enough that I am good and succeed, others should fail".

tl;dr

Just play whatever you like, and don't forget that games were not meant as second jobs, after all most of us do have real ones. Games are meant to be fun, so have fun in whatever way you like except cheating/griefing. There will always be a person that will tell you that the Fury/Demolisher/Quarian Engineer/BatSol/Destroyer/ Paladin/Infiltrators/Kroguard/Novaguard/EDI/every kit in the game save for 1-2 like the BatSent is OP anyway, and that you suck, so there's absolutely no reason to listen to them. 

Modifié par kaileena_sands, 02 mars 2013 - 11:39 .

[N7 Spectre525]

I've been playing this multiplayer since the demo. I've been impaled by Banshees,smashed by Brutes,stabbed by Phantoms etc...I've taken my lumps so to speak.
So to be able to give a big F U to a Banshee with my Baby Prime or being able to suck the soul out of a Phantom is absolutely hilarious at this point. Im having a blast with these new characters and I think thats the point,just have fun and play what you like. Who cares what some wannabe forum "elitists" says about it. Just have fun. It is just a game after all.

[HolyAvenger]

kaileena_sands wrote...
But I don't think getting outscored by potentially worse players is the main reason, I suspect that most of the times the real reason is actually the old "it's not enough that I am good and succeed, others should fail".

 

Its neither. Its I-want-the-game-to-retain-a-resemblance-of-balance-so-it-doesn't-get-boring-to-see-lobbies-full-of-the-same-thing.


If you were around during the release of the Krysae, then its pretty much exactly like that.

[Drak_Swordsman]

xTh3xBusinessx wrote...

Ok so Im fed up of seeing the nerf threads on here. I know we will see more but I decided to at least try to be constructive here. I just want to know what people think of decent and above players who just happen to like a so called "crutch" character.

For instance, I love turians and I love infiltrators. So TGI is my main regardless if he would have been bad etc. I do objectives, rocket when I see the need, revive when I can, and average at LEAST 100k a game on gold/platinum (Not U/U). I also play a variety of other classes such as the Fury, MQE, Slayer, vanilla HA, and GE. I just happen to love turians, infiltrators, and always wanted to play as EDI.

Im speaking out for other good players as well. It seems like everyone on BSN keeps pointing their hate at the bad PUGS using an OP class and groups anyone who uses them in the same box. So...like the title says, what if the player is actually really good and just likes playing as their favorite race etc?

I like to play the AIU because it's exhausting when every Gold game, my score is above or almost double the second place score.

If Bioware is going to nerf the AIU, they seriously need to buff these PUGs. At least increase their medigel supply or something, so I can go back to playing classes that I like, and not worry about carrying a bunch of people who frankly should be playing better. I mean, come on, I'm not a particularly good player, why should it be up to me to carry the team, burning through my medigel/ops packs/missiles.

The AIU is nice because it not only provides a very powerful class, it also alleviates the cost of consumables when unlucky players have to carry the teammates who are unwilling or unable to use consumables to contribute to a match.

[Rebel_Raven]

I don't care what a person plays as long as they have fun, and I extract... and they don't **** incessantly about it on the boards.

Infact I don't care about if they use it or not, ****ing like babies about it incessantly needs to stop.

Drak_Swordsman wrote...
I like to play the AIU because it's exhausting when every Gold game, my score is above or almost double the second place score.

If Bioware is going to nerf the AIU, they seriously need to buff these PUGs. At least increase their medigel supply or something, so I can go back to playing classes that I like, and not worry about carrying a bunch of people who frankly should be playing better. I mean, come on, I'm not a particularly good player, why should it be up to me to carry the team, burning through my medigel/ops packs/missiles.

The AIU is nice because it not only provides a very powerful class, it also alleviates the cost of consumables when unlucky players have to carry the teammates who are unwilling or unable to use consumables to contribute to a match.

Also this.

Modifié par Rebel_Raven, 02 mars 2013 - 11:55 .

[Eelectrica]

HolyAvenger wrote...

kaileena_sands wrote...
But I don't think getting outscored by potentially worse players is the main reason, I suspect that most of the times the real reason is actually the old "it's not enough that I am good and succeed, others should fail".

 

Its neither. Its I-want-the-game-to-retain-a-resemblance-of-balance-so-it-doesn't-get-boring-to-see-lobbies-full-of-the-same-thing.


If you were around during the release of the Krysae, then its pretty much exactly like that.

If we get lobbies filled with same thing history shows us that it will be nerfed.

3 days after a troubled new dlc release is a little early to make that call I think. Until then play the character you enjoy playing and don't worry about other people playing characters they enjoy playing. Sound fair?

[cowwy]

So in response to the OP it wouldn't matter to you if the class got nerfed into the ground then because you're going to play it regardless?

[HeroicMass]

BOSSTER23 wrote...

Geek Fest wrote...

4 good players can make platinum trivial regardless of kit used. The edibot doesn't really change anything there.

as long as this guy above isn't one of those four 

You took the words right of my mouth.  Geekfest is a scrub of incomparable fashion.

[78stonewobble]

HolyAvenger wrote...
Its neither. Its I-want-the-game-to-retain-a-resemblance-of-balance-so-it-doesn't-get-boring-to-see-lobbies-full-of-the-same-thing.


If you were around during the release of the Krysae, then its pretty much exactly like that.

Well obviously the game should be designed around your subjective preferences and not what other people find fun.

I vote we remove running and Krogans first.

[HolyAvenger]

Eelectrica wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

kaileena_sands wrote...
But I don't think getting outscored by potentially worse players is the main reason, I suspect that most of the times the real reason is actually the old "it's not enough that I am good and succeed, others should fail".

 

Its neither. Its I-want-the-game-to-retain-a-resemblance-of-balance-so-it-doesn't-get-boring-to-see-lobbies-full-of-the-same-thing.


If you were around during the release of the Krysae, then its pretty much exactly like that.

If we get lobbies filled with same thing history shows us that it will be nerfed.

3 days after a troubled new dlc release is a little early to make that call I think. Until then play the character you enjoy playing and don't worry about other people playing characters they enjoy playing. Sound fair?

 
 
I agree that in the end of the day, BW will look at the metadata and not so much at what's being said about it on BSN. 

I don't really see why I shouldn't discuss the metagame of ME3MP on a discussion forum dedicated to it, however. The fact is, in a co-op MP game, the characters others play does have an impact on me (I often switch to non-grenade kits if I see an AIU or two in the lobby, for example, or one with overload), so I think its not really fair to say "don't worry about it" as if it has no impact on my gameplay experience.