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[Cassandra Saturn]

before you start to call for nerf, you need to KNOW that AIU is intended to help people to play on Gold if you want to start on Gold.

AIU is not overpowered or just strong, it's intended because some people were really that slow to understand the game mechanics of the game MP.

for those that knows how the game works can actually be very good on Gold even if new people should learn how to play right without getting any of our current characters, weapons nerfed.

i even play AIU on Bronze often to help out the new players and i do play on Gold few times to build up my manifest or credits to buy the packs etc etc. 

so what i'm saying, you should play AIU for few weeks before you call for nerf, it's so overrated and lame. just chill out and play for few weeks to see why it's been feeling like  "omg it's so OP on Gold" unless you realize it's your Gold character as starter character for Gold.

honestly, where do those people start to call for nerfs? you need to know and understand your character first. surely you remember some of characters and weapons were nerfed because of whiners that did't understand what they're supposed to be doing.

i'd advise them to not call for nerf, but try to understand them as they play for few weeks.

thanks

[painforest]

BSN...get....ANGRY

[Draining Dragon]

In other words, its not overpowered, it just makes the second hardest mode trivial.

Okay.

[IllusiveManJr]

painforest wrote...

BSN...get....ANGRY

[hawgwild5757]

Draining Dragon wrote...

In other words, its not overpowered, it just makes the second hardest mode trivial.

Okay.

I was playing Silver PUGs last night and AIUs were dying left and right, along with KroLords and GethJugs.  Just because a character is powerful doesn't mean it trivializes any difficulty level.

[BurningLiquor]

Oh look, it's John Hackett/Superblaze/Cassandra Saturn again.

[Draining Dragon]

hawgwild5757 wrote...

Draining Dragon wrote...

In other words, its not overpowered, it just makes the second hardest mode trivial.

Okay.

I was playing Silver PUGs last night and AIUs were dying left and right

You just missed the entire point of all the complaints about it being OP.

[holdenagincourt]

I don't even understand what I just read.

There are plenty of classes that already make Gold accessible without giving players 46 free Medi-gel while also offering huge DR, shield restore and movement speed bonuses for over 20 seconds. Not to mention the best power in the game full stop, and the best primer for combos in the game, full stop. And let's not even discuss giving her a multiplicative damage boost to what is already the best weapon class in the game, on top of TC's normal obscene damage boost.

Krogan Vanguard and Quarian Male Infiltrator are examples of easy starting classes in Gold--cheesy, pretty overpowered but still within the realm of polite conversation. The AIU is just wrong in so many ways.

And finally, I don't know why anyone would have the idea that Gold is an entitlement. It should be a challenge, and it should carry a reasonable chance of failure for most players. The poor structuring of the credit reward system is kind of a separate issue.

[Saints]

I don't even see it pugs and the ones I do suck anyway.

[BurningLiquor]

hawgwild5757 wrote...

Draining Dragon wrote...

In other words, its not overpowered, it just makes the second hardest mode trivial.

Okay.

I was playing Silver PUGs last night and AIUs were dying left and right, along with KroLords and GethJugs.  Just because a character is powerful doesn't mean it trivializes any difficulty level.

I just had a hilarious game in a Gold PUG against Collectors. An AIU with an eviscerator II and omni blade was running around and meleeing everything. That AIU died like 20-30 times per wave on average (less on first couple of waves, but so many times on the later waves that it evens out to about 20-30 times per wave).

[HolyAvenger]

How about everyone who got started on gold and plat before it came out?

[stysiaq]

No.

I'm fed up with EDImmortal Reetards in PUGs. It feels like GI+Krysaes everywhere all over again.

[ASmoothCriminalx]

It's for people who aren't yet ready for Gold... What happens when it is used by people who can handle Gold and Platinum normally, I wonder?

Modifié par ASmoothCriminalx, 02 mars 2013 - 10:06 .

[Elecbender]

You can use that class all you want you will get nowhere with subpar gear and upgrades in Gold.

[UnknownMercenary]

Salarian Infiltrators with Widows.

Going old school.

[N7 Panda]

Nvm.

Modifié par Nope2.1, 02 mars 2013 - 10:34 .

[ValorOfArms777]

I think she should been UR honestly not the collector but..meh

IDC about her much she isn't my fav char at all, I perfer my TGI or Salarian whom can do so much more for me in the first place

Modifié par ValorOfArms777, 02 mars 2013 - 10:09 .

[Rib0flavin]

Saints944 wrote...

I don't even see it pugs and the ones I do suck anyway.

This

[cowwy]

So people should learn to rely on a crutch character and poor tactics to learn how to play gold? How about people learn how to play gold by playing gold without an ezmode character?

[N7 Drone]

Nah. People on BSN already trun gold into "Easy mode" before the AIU was made. Just look at any thread asking for gold solo tips. Most of tips are use kit X on Map X with Emeny X, Easy mode

[MajorStupidity]

Why did we need another one of these damn threads. So many damn threads defending the AIU why?!

[ValorOfArms777]

cowwy wrote...

So people should learn to rely on a crutch character and poor tactics to learn how to play gold? How about people learn how to play gold by playing gold without an ezmode character?

..thats not  a good way to put it..

she's a justifyably powerful char and with a good damage.. but I think more skilled players will obviously choose the better choice classes anyways

she dosn't seem to even QUICKEN up games...she can in some facts.. slow them down <_<

if you think I"M defending it.. your wrong the problem isn't medigel it's the DR...it's just the DR...that DR is way to drastic...

Modifié par ValorOfArms777, 02 mars 2013 - 10:12 .

[kakamouth]

While more forgiving the AIU isn't over powered at all, I'm constantly picking them up off the ground on all difficultly levels. I've seen a handful of really good AIU users that pour out snap freeze assists and timely defense matrix rez's but for the average user its buisness as usual.

Look at the Kroguard... sure the AIU can self rez but the Kroguard simply doesn't die in the first place.

It's less about the class and more about the person playing it, sure I can top the scoreboard without much trouble on my AIU and when I die there's a good chance I'll have my matrix running but I do that with my Kroguard, N7 Paladin, and just about every other class in my manifest.

If Deffense Matrix revived after sync kills I'd understand people complaining about it... but it doesn't. And while the AIU is a solid class there are several others that are far beefier.

[Teratoid]

ValorOfArms777 wrote...
she dosn't seem to even QUICKEN up games...she can in some facts.. slow them down <_<

...How?

[cowwy]

ValorOfArms777 wrote...

cowwy wrote...

So people should learn to rely on a crutch character and poor tactics to learn how to play gold? How about people learn how to play gold by playing gold without an ezmode character?

..thats not  a good way to put it..

she's a justifyably powerful char and with a good damage.. but I think more skilled players will obviously choose the better choice classes anyways

she dosn't seem to even QUICKEN up games...she can in some facts.. slow them down <_<

I don't know who you're playing with but these statement is flat out false. First of all for her damage output, she get's tac cloak and instead of the sniper damage evo she gets a shotgun evo instead, which is ridiculous in its own right. Then she gets snap freeze, and on top of that she gets essentially a passive movement speed bonus, shield regen, and a free medigel for no penalty whatsoever.