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AIU is your Gold Starter Character - NO NERF NEEDED


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It doesnt need to be nerfed everyone needs to calm down

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jpraelster93 wrote...

It doesnt need to be nerfed everyone needs to calm down


Thank you for the well reasoned argument.

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jpraelster93 wrote...

It doesnt need to be nerfed everyone needs to calm down


You don't even have the AIU, you're not allowed to say anything. Now go sit in the corner and face the wall.

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Arni90

She literally makes every other class in the game obsolete.


(facepalm)

Modifié par ZGaiden, 03 mars 2013 - 02:11 .


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The AIU/EDI is pretty amazing having free revives for sure, I just still don't understand the point of complaining in a co-op only game? It's not like you have to vs them with the free medi-gels.

Personally I feel like I deserve it after 3 of my equipment are 200+ and my medi-gels are like 8 because of pugs. Finally I can play some gold pug games and not be forced to use all my medi-gel solo'ing waves or dying reviving the pugs.

Is it "overpowered" though? Yea I guess it is but if it's overpowered then that helps your TEAM, this is not a single player game yet people are SO competitive for some UNKNOWN reason. The people who complain so much need to go play some games that are PLAYER V PLAYER!!! The only ones with the right to complain about AIU are the reapers/geth/cerberus/collectors that get smashed and they don't really seem to care.

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Wait, are we freaking out over the click powers free revive or its awesome shotgun damage? I don't know which one I'm suppose to be enraged about.

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billy the squid wrote...

jpraelster93 wrote...

It doesnt need to be nerfed everyone needs to calm down


You don't even have the AIU, you're not allowed to say anything. Now go sit in the corner and face the wall.


hahaha but I agree. I don't think it should be nerfed. Eventually people are just going to stop using it like most characters we just have to put up with it for a while no big deal. 

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Ok, I think people need to realise that it's not the character itself that needs to be changed, it is only the power Repair Matrix.

I mean cmon, we finally have a contender to the GI, and BSN goes and has a **** and moan about it.

The **** is wrong with you people?

Modifié par Flaming Snake, 03 mars 2013 - 02:54 .


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Barronator wrote...

The AIU/EDI is pretty amazing having free revives for sure, I just still don't understand the point of complaining in a co-op only game? It's not like you have to vs them with the free medi-gels.

Personally I feel like I deserve it after 3 of my equipment are 200+ and my medi-gels are like 8 because of pugs. Finally I can play some gold pug games and not be forced to use all my medi-gel solo'ing waves or dying reviving the pugs.

Is it "overpowered" though? Yea I guess it is but if it's overpowered then that helps your TEAM, this is not a single player game yet people are SO competitive for some UNKNOWN reason. The people who complain so much need to go play some games that are PLAYER V PLAYER!!! The only ones with the right to complain about AIU are the reapers/geth/cerberus/collectors that get smashed and they don't really seem to care.



People try to claim it isnt that they are competative, they say the game is boring if everyone uses the same setup, apparently they like to just follow other players around instead of playin the game themself. I know thats what i do, hell sometimes i let myself get sync-killed just so i can easily switch to different follow cams and watch other people play....

Or they say they just want bad players to become good and that wont happen with op kits. Irellevant, a bad player is a bad player, obviously they dont have the time to put in to become good. So the 2-3 games a week that they play, they can either come in with edi and revive themself, or they can play some other class and drag the game down with them.

Then there are the people who dont like new players having something they didnt when they started, because they are so proud of there "accomplishment"(playing a video game) and dont want newer players to be able to do it easier with new kits. An example of this attitude can be found on the first page of this thread. Some ****** comment about how extracting on gold used to mean something...lol..."mean something"...what does it mean? You played on gold and extracted, heres a cookie, go stroke yourself somewhere else.

Doesnt matter, nerfs will happen to prevent easy credit farming, that is only reason things get nerfed. This is a business. If people are dumb enough to believe that things get nerfed because they make a post about wanting "balance" then let them.

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rlucht wrote...

jpraelster93 wrote...

It doesnt need to be nerfed everyone needs to calm down


Thank you for the well reasoned argument.


All the arguments have already been stated both ways, all anyone can really get out of these many threads anymore is where people stand on the issue. you are for, he is against, what else really hasn't been said already?

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Arni90

She literally makes every other class in the game obsolete.


(facepalm)

Can you explain why you disagree?
She may be slightly boring like the TGI, but she's still the best character in ME3 Multiplayer.

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Josh182 wrote...
People try to claim it isnt that they are competative, they say the game is boring if everyone uses the same setup, apparently they like to just follow other players around instead of playin the game themself. I know thats what i do, hell sometimes i let myself get sync-killed just so i can easily switch to different follow cams and watch other people play....

Or they say they just want bad players to become good and that wont happen with op kits. Irellevant, a bad player is a bad player, obviously they dont have the time to put in to become good. So the 2-3 games a week that they play, they can either come in with edi and revive themself, or they can play some other class and drag the game down with them.

Then there are the people who dont like new players having something they didnt when they started, because they are so proud of there "accomplishment"(playing a video game) and dont want newer players to be able to do it easier with new kits. An example of this attitude can be found on the first page of this thread. Some ****** comment about how extracting on gold used to mean something...lol..."mean something"...what does it mean? You played on gold and extracted, heres a cookie, go stroke yourself somewhere else.

Doesnt matter, nerfs will happen to prevent easy credit farming, that is only reason things get nerfed. This is a business. If people are dumb enough to believe that things get nerfed because they make a post about wanting "balance" then let them.


Can't say I totally agree with some parts, I sort of agree with others that it sucks how it's quite a bit easier then it was for me, I remember I missed the first ever weekend challenge because it was on silver or above (something like that) and I was still playing bronze. Well I was better on bronze then a lot of the players I find now on gold so that's a bit of a shame but at least there are still people playing :D.

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Arni90 wrote....

Can you explain why you disagree?She may be slightly boring like the TGI, but she's still the best character in ME3 Multiplayer.


That's not really the case though, it totally depends on how you play. If you want to be a huge tanky character with lot's of DR then even with the auto-revive it's not the best choice at all. If you want to be a huge weapon damage dealer then GI is a lot better, if you want to be pulling off awesome biotic combos then she's not good at all.

She might be arguably one of the best ALL-ROUND characters but you can't say she is THE best because it's not possible to have a "best" kit for ME3 MP imo.

Modifié par Barronator, 03 mars 2013 - 03:27 .


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xtorma wrote...

rlucht wrote...

jpraelster93 wrote...

It doesnt need to be nerfed everyone needs to calm down


Thank you for the well reasoned argument.


All the arguments have already been stated both ways, all anyone can really get out of these many threads anymore is where people stand on the issue. you are for, he is against, what else really hasn't been said already?


He hasn't told you that he has significantly larger man parts.

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No.

I'm fed up with EDImmortal Reetards in PUGs. It feels like GI+Krysaes everywhere all over again.


For all of the talk of PUGs being nothing but EDIs, I've yet to run into one pug with more than one AIU, yet this has been very common for me...

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Ok, maybe not always three (two are extremely common though), but I've seen WAY more Juggernauts than AIUs.


lol

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Rib0flavin wrote...

Wait, are we freaking out over the click powers free revive or its awesome shotgun damage? I don't know which one I'm suppose to be enraged about.


It's having both at the same time that's causing the freakout.  But don't forget these attributes as well:

 - Tankiness via shield regen and damage reduction
 - Great movement speed
 - Good dodge
 - Awesome melee (light AND heavy)
 - High base shields/health
 - Stagger CC debuffing power that primes everything for tech explosions... through walls

She.  Has.  Everything.

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Reyno411 wrote...

Rib0flavin wrote...

Wait, are we freaking out over the click powers free revive or its awesome shotgun damage? I don't know which one I'm suppose to be enraged about.



She.  Has.  Everything.



still not enough to make players good with her

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 This reminds me of the BS with the Sawed-off Shotgun in Gears of War 3.

"Intended" to help newer players (why even do it like this?) get into the groove of things only to result in the good players also using it to everyone else's dismay.

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I've only used her 3 times so far, and yes, the AUI is extremely OP. A nerf is definitely needed.
However, the problem here is repair matrix not the 25% shotgun bonus.
What I suggest is a significant nerf to repair matrix.
1) Reduce base shields restored per second to 100
2) Reduce base duration to 10 sec
3) Reduce base damage taken to 10%
4) And lastly the most important, make it so repair matrix cannot restore shields while cloaked.

Anyways, that is just my opinion.

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Only seen a couple of edibots do even half decent in pugs. Whats the ****ing problrm? Is it another bsn bull**** "everyone is using her"rubbish? Like the gi? Really confused about this. Seen far more krolords in gold pugs(most horrible fails)

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GTI FTW!

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Cassandra Saturn wrote...

before you start to call for nerf, you need to KNOW that AIU is intended to help people to play on Gold if you want to start on Gold.

i even play AIU on Bronze often to help out the new players


Please show me where a BioWare Dev has stated this, as you are in no way, shape or form qualified to make such a statement.

Also are you f**king kidding me? You are pretty much a new player yourself, 100h of mainly Bronze.
With your 4 Gold extractions you aren't qualified to be saying was is and isn't OP on Gold either.

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Reyno411 wrote...

Rib0flavin wrote...

Wait, are we freaking out over the click powers free revive or its awesome shotgun damage? I don't know which one I'm suppose to be enraged about.


It's having both at the same time that's causing the freakout.  But don't forget these attributes as well:

 - Tankiness via shield regen and damage reduction
 - Great movement speed
 - Good dodge
 - Awesome melee (light AND heavy)
 - High base shields/health
 - Stagger CC debuffing power that primes everything for tech explosions... through walls

She.  Has.  Everything.


Anyone else remember those good old days when vanilla Turians sacrificed rolls and movement speed just to get 750 base shields?

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It's more about the player behind the character rather then the character. I've seen TONS of really bad AUI's. My one friend was also pretty bad with it. Just because it's good doesn't mean every person that touches it will do good.

Remember: You still need to steer the car even if you have cruise control on.

Modifié par HNNNNNNG, 03 mars 2013 - 05:35 .


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PaperAlien wrote...

Anyone else remember those good old days when vanilla Turians sacrificed rolls and movement speed just to get 750 base shields?


drells were a welcome sight in every game, since you could finally deel with those pesky guardian shields easier! Unless you were lucky to already have ap mod.

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I've noticed that, every time someone does great with the AIU, its supposedly the player, and whenever someone sucks with the AIU, its because the character somehow isn't overpowered. In actuality, its usually the opposite, I've seen >_>