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Hey Reckoning is out and I just gotta say I’ve loving all the new classes! Huge thanks to the developers for their work. So let’s get right into it with The Turian Cabal Vanguard. I really wasn’t one of those clamoring for female Turians, I just wanted new classes whatever they were. All the classes sounded fantastic but Cabal was kind of a Dark Horse for me. Anyway, I love playing this class. I’ve burnt about 4 respecs on her, trying to figure her out. I came to the realization that she is a venomous Chimera… but still so sexy. She can basically do it all and that is why it is so tough tobuild her. She won’t be the best at some things but she can compete in pretty much every area if you choose to focus on it. So I bring to you my thoughts on build ideas and how the remind me of a cool kung fu movie from my youth
 

[This is just my opinion and what I found fun. I’m an average player most of the time, but I have some great moments every now and then, so Ido think they are solid ideas. I’m open to constructive replies. Thank you for reading. ]

Centipede: Turian Gun Witch

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3 - Poison Strike 
5 - Nightshade Blades - Damage, Range
6 - Biotic Focus - Damage Reduction, Melee, Biotic Shield
6 - Passives - Damage & Stablity, Power Damage, Damage and Stability
6 - Fitness - Melee Damage, Martial Artist, Melee Synergy
Acolyte: Melee Stunner
Hurricane: High Velocity Barrel, Heat Sink
SMG Rail Amp, Sheild Power Cells
Grenade Capacity 

Narida Link

The Turian Gun Witch is a battlefield stalker. She can quickly dispose of small groups of soldiers or a lone Lt. Killing only makes her more powerful. Once she gets the bonuses going her hurricane can quickly bring bosses to their knees.

Poison Strike is used in this build as a convenient forward dash.  Use it to get out of trouble and combine it with the heavy melee to move around the battlefeild.

Nightshade Blades helps to give you some spike DPS to finish off Troops of humanoid enemies.

Biotic focus should be spammed for survivability. The key to this build (and all my builds of her) is to get heavy melee kills. With that you get the boost in your melee and weapon damages. That is what will allow you to damage bosses with your hurricane. Use the acolyte to strip down boss shields. One shot plus a heavy melee takes care of phantoms, marauders, Hunters etc. Save the hurricane for the armored targets and just heavy melee/ acolyte the troops.

A variation of this uses the Talon, put on Warp or AP ammo to make it Platinum viable. 

Variants: 

BACON4BREAKFAST wrote...

Narida Link
4/4/6/6/6
PS: Range
NS: capacity
BF: DR/Melee/Shield
All weapon passives
All melee passives

Preferred weapon: Graal w/ omni-blade and dmg mod

Use a combination of melee and weapons to lay waste to the enemy. PS is for movement/escape and NS blades are available for stagger and a little extra damage if needed. Biotic Focus keeps you alive and gives you a boost to melee damage so be sure to use it as often as you can.

After a heavy melee kill you get a significant boost to weapons, giving you roughly 62.5% weapon damage in total without amps/mods. The Graal is great because it staggers, can be shot while running, and is capable of headshots. It is also a shotgun so it can carry the omni-blade which you will need for the most melee damage possible.

Use the Geth Scanner so you can melee enemies through walls and increase your battlefield awareness that is invaluable to this class. Strength Amp, Incendiary ammo, and Cyclonic/Adrenaline are also recommended.

This is a melee-centric build so it is not reccomended for Platinum. If you want to venture into Platinum you will need a weapon that is more capable of dealing with bosses. GPS w/ Warp Ammo is a solid choice or an Acolyte/Hurricane combination should work as well.


Snake: Viperguard   
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6 - Poison Strike - Range, Recharge Speed, Double Dash
6 - Nightshade Blades - Damage, Range, Exploding Blades
6 - Biotic Focus - Damage Reduction, Melee, Biotic Shield
0 - Passives - 
6 - Fitness - Melee Damage, Martial Artist, Melee Synergy
Wraith: Omni-Blade
Strength Enhancer, Power Amp
Geth Scanner 
                                                     

Narida Link
The Viperguard is an Assassin who sows terror in her enemies. Once she gets her melee bonuses she cleans house against Lt level enemies. When she activates Biotic focus, her melee damage outstrips the Bataraian, but I have no idea how much DR it has.  

You dart into the room spray Night blades, then behead the nearest goon, now you got your weapon and melee bonuses working, so depending on who is still standing, you can either mop up or teleport out of the room. If you get into trouble just spam BF and back teleport out of there.    

Poison Strike is used in this build as a convenient forward dash.  Use it to get out of trouble and combine it with the heavy melee to move around the map never stop moving thoughand always be doing damage.  It doesn’t matter if you kill the boss, by the time your team mates shows up you’ve already left the scene. All they find is piles of mooks everywhere, a green tinted half dead Lt and a boss who is hopefully taking DOT.   They become easy pickings for DPS classes or you can circle around and hit them again and finish the stragglers. This build is best on gold and Silver.

 

Toad:  Venom Marine
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0 - Poison Strike 
6 - Nightshade Blades - Damage, Range, Exploding Blades
6 - Biotic Focus - Damage Reduction, Duration, Biotic Shield
6 - Passives - Damage & Stablity, Headshots, Damage and Stability
6 - Fitness - Durablity, Sheild Recharge, Fitness Expert
Acolyte: W/E
Harrier: W/E
Assualt Rifle Rail Amp, Sheild Power Cells or Cyclonic Modulator or W/E
Grenade Capacity

Narida Link

The Cobalt Venom Marine is sort of a no-nonsense approach to the character. You get the pretty high damage and tanking ability and she can still move around the map pretty fast. The obvious choice of gun is the Harrier. This build clears out troops with NB and works bosses over with her harrier. Between the DR from  BF and its recharging ability, you can take a lot of punishment but it’s best If you don’t tempt fate.

Nightshade Blades here is built to do max damage. I went with venom over exploding blades. Since it is grenade based you can spam this power and and do more dmage than the explosion but the DOT stacks on bosses. Now with all the goons dead you can focus bosses with either acolyte or harrier as the situation demands and quickly teleport your way to an ammo box. I know some people aren’t going to like another harrier kit but hey it’s there.

This build is very Platinum friendly because BF is basically the old vanguard’s charge. It’s what we’ve been asking for in a vanguard.  She is a vanguard/soldier and she doesn’t have to put herself into danger to get her shields back.  

 

Lizard: Turian Phantasm Ranger
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6 - Poison Strike - Range, Recharge Speed, Double Dash
5 - Nightshade Blades - Damage, Range
6 - Biotic Focus - Damage Reduction, Melee, Biotic Shield
3 - Passives 
6 - Fitness - Durablity, Shield Recharge, Melee Synergy
Acolyte
Wraith
Shot Gun Rail Amp, Power Efficeincy 
Geth Scanner V

Narida Link

This is a variation of the Marine. She gives up some small shields and passives but she gets more mobility and the same amount of weapon damage due to Melee Synergy. The NS Blades are here to give you some spike DPS. You can use the Geth scanner to scout out enemy positions and in game terms she can essentially be used as a scout.  In small maps you can quickly flank groups of enemies and catch them in a crossfire.
 

With the wraith she can really hold her own against troops and bosses but. She can pop in and lay into enemies with the wraith, NBs and her heavy melee.  Don’t forget to use PS to get out of danger, as well as give you new ambush opportunities.  Just because you can hold the line doesn’t mean you should. Or you can give her another weapon of appropriate weight.

 

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 Update: Its dawned on me that others have some real cool variations so I'm going to be adding some under the entries. I now feel like these are the general Archetypes the Cabal can play out as. She can still be tweaked and custimied to get slightly more comfortable results. Garrus wasn't kidding:innocent:


Well those are my build ideas for my new favorite character in the DLC. Yeah I’m aware I’m missing scorpion. I only thought of the four open to suggestions. 
Also here are some links to others thoughts on the Cabal

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Modifié par Ace-Malo, 04 mars 2013 - 01:22 .


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Wow that was fast. Any ideas?

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Very nice write up, and clever naming conventions!

I have been using her as a jake of all trades, with a sniper rifle and nightshade blades as the damage dealers. Really love this class alot.

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I feel bad for not knowing what the hell you're talking about, because it sounds like you put a lot of time and effort into this... but I CBA to use the Narida thingy. It's just a giant mess of text on my screen. I wish more people would use something like this:

4 - Poison Strike - Damage
6 - Nightshade Blades - Blah, Blah, Exploding Blades
6 - Biotic Focus - Speed, Duration, Biotic Shield
6 - Passives - Damage & Capacity, Power Damage, Weapon Damage
4 - Melee Damage

It's so much easier to read, doesn't require a link, etc.

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megabeast37215 wrote...

I feel bad for not knowing what the hell you're talking about, because it sounds like you put a lot of time and effort into this... but I CBA to use the Narida thingy. It's just a giant mess of text on my screen. I wish more people would use something like this:

4 - Poison Strike - Damage
6 - Nightshade Blades - Blah, Blah, Exploding Blades
6 - Biotic Focus - Speed, Duration, Biotic Shield
6 - Passives - Damage & Capacity, Power Damage, Weapon Damage
4 - Melee Damage

It's so much easier to read, doesn't require a link, etc.


I do enjoy the contrast of orange on grey, but it would be nice to not have to open 4 links.

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These are really useful. Still getting used to her, but I definitely think she's a great kit. I am currently running a no PS build, but I will try one of your builds the next respec card I get.

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painforest wrote...

These are really useful. Still getting used to her, but I definitely think she's a great kit. I am currently running a no PS build, but I will try one of your builds the next respec card I get.


I'm using a ranged PS and it's absolutely awesome at getting ammo on Glacier.

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me0120 wrote...

painforest wrote...

These are really useful. Still getting used to her, but I definitely think she's a great kit. I am currently running a no PS build, but I will try one of your builds the next respec card I get.


I'm using a ranged PS and it's absolutely awesome at getting ammo on Glacier.


wuts ammo on glacier? surely you don't mean grenades, those are a myth.

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painforest wrote...

me0120 wrote...

painforest wrote...

These are really useful. Still getting used to her, but I definitely think she's a great kit. I am currently running a no PS build, but I will try one of your builds the next respec card I get.


I'm using a ranged PS and it's absolutely awesome at getting ammo on Glacier.


wuts ammo on glacier? surely you don't mean grenades, those are a myth.


I thought so too before I tried this out. It turns out some sneaky Drell kept stealing it all.

I bet you didn't know every box on Glacier actually contains ONE WHOLE GRENADE, I thought only the box outside did.

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me0120 wrote...

painforest wrote...

me0120 wrote...

painforest wrote...

These are really useful. Still getting used to her, but I definitely think she's a great kit. I am currently running a no PS build, but I will try one of your builds the next respec card I get.


I'm using a ranged PS and it's absolutely awesome at getting ammo on Glacier.


wuts ammo on glacier? surely you don't mean grenades, those are a myth.


I thought so too before I tried this out. It turns out some sneaky Drell kept stealing it all.

I bet you didn't know every box on Glacier actually contains ONE WHOLE GRENADE, I thought only the box outside did.


A whole complete grenade? lies. **** drell. **** glacier. Also we should play together sometime. Rde together die together. Lliterally because I suck at this game.

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I agree with you megabeast, Narida is the facebook of ME3 builds. Bloated, contrived and unecessary

Also OP; Those are awesome movie references
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painforest wrote...

me0120 wrote...

I thought so too before I tried this out. It turns out some sneaky Drell kept stealing it all.

I bet you didn't know every box on Glacier actually contains ONE WHOLE GRENADE, I thought only the box outside did.


A whole complete grenade? lies. **** drell. **** glacier. Also we should play together sometime. Rde together die together. Lliterally because I suck at this game.


Don't worry. Guys like it when girls suck at video games, among other things. I'll hit you up next time I see you on and we can see who has a stronger back.

Oh and I'll be using a Drell. :whistle:

Modifié par me0120, 03 mars 2013 - 09:38 .


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I also use a powerful melee build 3 in blades, its an oh **** power for me. but once i get my synergy the agility and fast melees demolish any enemy, even bosses, once i sense a grab just dodge or strike away, leaving them with a gift. biotic focus for a time was all melee but the survivability just wasnt there. XD cabal

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me0120 wrote...
Guys like it when girls suck at video games


Not this guy.

I kicked a chick out of my party last night for being a total scrub... white knights are the lamest of all gamers.

I see the OP is editting his OP with the format I suggested. Thank you so much. I look foward to reading your builds/ideas.

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Dat Guide. Need Cabal pic to make it looks even more glorious. Can I add this to my library?

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Ok reformatted with format ideas. I really appreciate your input.

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@OP- You took rank 6a on Biotic Focus in all of your builds. What's the reason you prefer it over 6b? I have 6b now and it's very nice, good DR and speed bonus. Have not tried 6a, but it looks good as well. Does anyone know how much lag interferes with that evo?

@me14947197 - Yes i know, how do you think I got into specx?

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megabeast37215 wrote...

me0120 wrote...
Guys like it when girls suck at video games


Not this guy.

I kicked a chick out of my party last night for being a total scrub... white knights are the lamest of all gamers.


You have a better way of sneaking in a BJ joke? Besides, we know painforest is good.

OP the post looks good. The Viperguard may be the best melee character to come out of the DLC, which surprising with the Warlord using a hammer.

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Thanks guys it was a bit inspired.

Crimson Vanguard: yeah its fine add it to the library. I'm still getting the hang of formatting for this forum but I'll look for pictures to add.

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megabeast37215 wrote...

me0120 wrote...
Guys like it when girls suck at video games


Not this guy.

I kicked a chick out of my party last night for being a total scrub... white knights are the lamest of all gamers.

I see the OP is editting his OP with the format I suggested. Thank you so much. I look foward to reading your builds/ideas.


I will never forgive you for that.

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@painforest. I do enjoy the 6b evolution but I guess I feel I get more milage out of the incremental DR than the incremental speed. I tend to firefight more with this build and run less. So the Dr is better for me.

@Me0120
its ridiculous how much damage her heavy melee does. If you got stones you can use it against any boss just gotta watch out for the grabs. You 'er no Krogan but you can cut slash them pretty bad before they can do anything about it.

I wonder how this kit plays with the other Turians. I imagine a Turian Blackwatch platoon made up of all the Turian classes.

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me0120 wrote...
 Besides, we know painforest is good.


You have been deceived.

Packing a Piranha/Harrier on 98% of kits does not make one good Posted Image

On topic: 6a is superior because getting shields back every 3ish seconds is... pretty damn awesome.

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megabeast37215 wrote...

me0120 wrote...
 Besides, we know painforest is good.


You have been deceived.

Packing a Piranha/Harrier on 98% of kits does not make one good Posted Image


Heartbreaker banner is an indicator of skill.

edit- Yeah, but I feel like if I'm using it in a tight spot, lag will screw me over. I have to think about these things since I play off host almost always.

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Ace-Malo wrote...

@painforest. I do enjoy the 6b evolution but I guess I feel I get more milage out of the incremental DR than the incremental speed. I tend to firefight more with this build and run less. So the Dr is better for me.

I wonder how this kit plays with the other Turians. I imagine a Turian Blackwatch platoon made up of all the Turian classes.


The invincibility frames are invaluable. It lasts long enough to keep yourself alive from any single boss attack so you can continue shooting. 


I expect the Havoc to instigate a fight with a strike while the Sentinal debuffs for the Soldier and Ghost to apply ammo. Somewhere in there the Cabal killed a whole bunch of things that no one saw but kept the team in one piece.

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me0120 wrote...

painforest wrote...

me0120 wrote...

I thought so too before I tried this out. It turns out some sneaky Drell kept stealing it all.

I bet you didn't know every box on Glacier actually contains ONE WHOLE GRENADE, I thought only the box outside did.


A whole complete grenade? lies. **** drell. **** glacier. Also we should play together sometime. Rde together die together. Lliterally because I suck at this game.


Don't worry. Guys like it when girls suck at video games, among other things. I'll hit you up next time I see you on and we can see who has a stronger back.

Oh and I'll be using a Drell. :whistle:


That's odd, I always thought he was Udina.