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[nmal015]

Its obviously not worth it, but neither is half the over priced rubbish the average middle class westerner buys from his local corner store.



Anyway, i can certainly think of more expensive ways to gain an hour or so of entertainment than pay $5 for RTO

[TheMadCat]

On another point, someone brought up dlc should not be used to put something that should have already been in the game in. I agree completely. Party Storage from warden's keep should have been in beforehand. But the keep itself was not a necessity to the story. RtO is a different story in my book. I believe it should have been included in the game as it seems illogical that our party would not return to attempt to search for specific things.

You know one of the devs released a mod that put's a storage chest in your camp right?

[Abriael_CG]

FOUR cups of coffee. 'nuff said. Get over it.

[DragonRageGT]

I suppose the OP does not pay monthly for his WoW sessions? Play only on "free" servers?

As for reasonable argument, voice talents to mention just one! As much as they may love to work on the game, they all have bills to pay and thus they much receive a compensation of some kind for their work!

And why people compare absurdities as if they would make a valid point? The price charged for something is based on the cost and percentage of net profit aimed by the owners. That also takes into account the consumer base for such product!

The day one video game gathers the same amount of people to play it as a good movie does, then we might have a 11 hours trilogy worth of cutscenes with full dialogues plus 500 hours worth gameplay time for the same price of a movie ticket!

Modifié par RageGT, 12 janvier 2010 - 09:07 .

[Crimzon Nutcase]

nmal015 wrote...

Its obviously not worth it, but neither is half the over priced rubbish the average middle class westerner buys from his local corner store.

Anyway, i can certainly think of more expensive ways to gain an hour or so of entertainment than pay $5 for RTO

You sir are making this more than it needs to be. It's not a national debacle, it's digital entertainment, take your hatred somewhere else.

As for the more expensive ways to gain an hour, yeah me too.

[WarlordThor]

TheMadCat wrote...

You know one of the devs released a mod that put's a storage chest in your camp right?

Aye, thus why I pointed out it should have already been in, but that the bulk of Warden's Keep was itself unique and outside the scope of what would have been logical for our party to do during the normal course of the story. Until the dlc spokesman comes along, there would be no reason to undergo the task. RtO is a different matter in that at least one of our characters should have been very vehement about going back to the site during the main story.

[WarlordThor]

wowpwnslol wrote...

Pretty stupid comparison, but you're a woman so I'll forgive you.

After comments like this, I really hope you are purely trolling and not trying to make a real argument. If it isn't just trolling, I feel very sad for you.

[Crimzon Nutcase]

wowpwnslol wrote...

SarEnyaDor wrote...

The arguement is if you don't think it is worth that then don't buy it! The world isn't forcing you to be the Pokemon Master who's gotta catch them all.

With attitutude like that you'll never achieve any changes. As far as EA/Bioware is concerned you're just a sucker paying money for overpriced content.

*is still waiting for her free house, car and chocolate cupcake*

Pretty stupid comparison, but you're a woman so I'll forgive you.

It always seems to be people with your icon that have issues with everything and/or try to troll. However you've just added sexist to your bill. Primarily I think you're just mouthing off because you think you have a point. However the sad and fickle thing is, you don't. There are more people willing to purchase the future DLC/Expansions because they know it's worth it to support the company that makes quality and enjoyable games. You sir just think everything should be free, hate to break it to you but silver platters with everything on it are fresh out.




INB4 FANBOI-ISM. No sir I'm not a fanboy I just think, and in my current sleep deprived state I am yet still the more dominant.

[TheMadCat]

Pretty stupid comparison, but you're a woman so I'll forgive you.

Well, I've been trolled. Now I feel rather disappointed with myself.

[Yoroi.Shinzu]

I think you QQ too much over DLC's.

[Dahelia]

wowpwnslol wrote...
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LOL! You are a WoW freak..I forgive you...ouch man...you really are trolling...lol

Modifié par Torias, 12 janvier 2010 - 09:21 .

[Abriael_CG]

wowpwnslol wrote...
With attitutude like that you'll never achieve any changes. As far as EA/Bioware is concerned you're just a sucker paying money for overpriced content.

why should there be any change? As someone who works, I think people that work need to be paid, and since there's work involved in releasing a DLC, it needs to be paid. Try working yourself sometimes, you'll realize it

And again, 1 hour and an half of replayable fun for the price of a whole  4 cups of coffee? ooooh outrageous...






Not that I'd expect a wow player to make any sense...

Modifié par Abriael_CG, 12 janvier 2010 - 09:10 .

[SarEnyaDor]

wowpwnslol wrote...

Pretty stupid comparison, but you're a woman so I'll forgive you.

Aww, that's sweet of you for forgiving me for having a vagina...

Modifié par SarEnyaDor, 12 janvier 2010 - 09:27 .

[Abriael_CG]

SarEnyaDor wrote...
Aww, that's sweet of you for forgiving me for having a vagina...

Actually your avatar, since he can't know one's real gender. I hope it's properly modded, or the troll might withdraw his forgiveness :innocent:

[WarlordThor]

SarEnyaDor wrote...

Aww, that's sweet of you for forgiving me for having a vagina...

You know, your bleeding sarcasm reminds me of Alistair.  Best response in this thread so far .

[Arinosmirc]

wowpwnslol wrote...

Crimzon Nutcase wrote...


To get on topic however, Blizzard gets money from your subscription fees, from the add-on expansion packs, and from tools who buy server changes. Bioware doesn't charge you to play your game, they don't charge you for even a toolset to build new weapons and armor. However in order to produce more content they have to make more money from somewhere, don't they? Hmm yes they do. Free content like you propose isn't feasible, nor is it intelligent business practice.

Nice job derailing the topic to WoW. When I meant "free content" - I was talking about battle.net, Diablo 2 patches (new content for absolutely zero cost - they're going to release a new one soon, still supporting fans of a 10year old game) and Warcraft 3 patches (once again, new heroes for free).

But Bioware is charging us $5-15 for half an hour of content? No. I am not trolling, I am 100% serious. DLC's should be free. It's an outrage and an insult to be expected to pay for something you could cook up in toolset in 20 minutes.

It's a fair comparison. In the end, you'll be paying FAAAAAAR less for Dragon Age then World of Warcraft.

Maybe you should try the toolset, and see what YOU can 'cook up' in 20  minutes. Even if you had intimiate knowledge of the toolset, you might have...what, a few encounters?

Whereas the DLC has full voice acting (try that in 20 minutes HA! Oh, those folks want to be paid too....), new items (models too, if I'm not mistaken, pretty sure the Warden's armor has it's own model), as well as a story and dialogue written by professional writers (hey, they like to be paid for their work too)

That's not to say they can't make some things free. They already have. Shale, Edge, that ring that I never got. But you can't expect them to release complex additions to the game for free. Items or cut content that was originally planned for the game is one thing, but this is another thing completely.

All and all, I think they've been quite fair with the DLC, although I really don't think they should have had any of the Warden's Keep DLC in the original game (ie the quest giver, the meteorite)

[nmal015]

Crimzon Nutcase wrote...

nmal015 wrote...

Its obviously not worth it, but neither is half the over priced rubbish the average middle class westerner buys from his local corner store.

Anyway, i can certainly think of more expensive ways to gain an hour or so of entertainment than pay $5 for RTO

You sir are making this more than it needs to be. It's not a national debacle, it's digital entertainment, take your hatred somewhere else.

As for the more expensive ways to gain an hour, yeah me too.

And you sir, are certainly making more of my post than need be. Take your grumpy somewhere else.

[wowpwnslol]

Crimzon Nutcase wrote...


It always seems to be people with your icon that have issues with everything and/or try to troll.

I am not trolling. I thought I already went over that.

However you've just added sexist to your bill.

No, I just wanted to get the forum male sissies to come out and chastise me.

Primarily I think you're just mouthing off because you think you have a point. However the sad and fickle thing is, you don't.

See, it's very easy to say YOUR OPINION IS WRONG LOL. What isn't so easy is to prove why it's wrong. I put forth several arguments as to why DLCs should be free - because other companies provide more content for free and don't insult their fans by releasing single player loot pinata DLCs with almost no content for good amount of money and pretend they're amazing.

There are more people willing to purchase the future DLC/Expansions because they know it's worth it to support the company that makes quality and enjoyable games.

Those people are suckers. Look, there's nothing wrong with supporting a company. There IS something wrong however, when said company is blatantly ripping off loyal fans, which is my main argument.

You sir just think everything should be free, hate to break it to you but silver platters with everything on it are fresh out.

I have no problem paying for something. WoW costs me $15/month. I think it's well worth it for the amount of content that I get and fun I have with friends. I have a problem getting ripped off, which is what Bioware is doing with DLCs. Too bad most people here wear rose colored goggles.

Modifié par wowpwnslol, 12 janvier 2010 - 09:17 .

[WarlordThor]

Arinosmirc wrote...

It's a fair comparison. In the end, you'll be paying FAAAAAAR less for Dragon Age then World of Warcraft.

Just as a point here, it really is never fair to compare an MMO to a single player game. MMO's provide near limitless hours of entertainment a month for $15. Now there are many extra little charges people can incur for transfers or what not in most of these games, but they arn't necessary.

So while one would end up paying more for an MMO over time, they would also be getting much more for their money. When you really stop and think, MMO's are extremly inexpensive for constant updates and entertainment. Of course you have to be in to MMO's to appreciate and care about this. If they arn't for you and you don't play them much, yes the money would be a waste.

[SarEnyaDor]

MrHimuraChan wrote...

SarEnyaDor wrote...

Houses should be free. Cars should be free. Chocolate cupcakes should be free.

*puts hands out and waits patiently*

Don't forget ice cream and hot-dogs , that should be free too

*puts hands out and waits together*

We'll probably be waiting a long time, perhaps we should construct a lean-to or shelter of some sort?

[Abriael_CG]

wowpwnslol wrote...

I have no problem paying for something. WoW costs me $15/month. I think it's well worth it for the amount of content that I get and fun I have with friends. I have a problem getting ripped off, which is what Bioware is doing with DLCs. Too bad most people here wear rose colored goggles.

If you have a problem getting ripped off, you shouldn't be playing wow, given the absolutely crappy quality of that game.

But again, I don't see you raging at your local bartender, given that four cups of coffee will cost you the same as your average DLC. And guess what, I'm pretty sure it takes less than one hour and an half to drink four cups of coffee.

An average dinner might last you one hour and an half. I'm definitely curious to see if you know many restaurants that will charge you less than five dollars for one.
But given the fact that you definitely look like the average basement dweller (or a jobless wow-kid), you might not know.

Modifié par Abriael_CG, 12 janvier 2010 - 09:22 .

[Dahelia]

wowpwnslol wrote...

Crimzon Nutcase wrote...


It always seems to be people with your icon that have issues with everything and/or try to troll.

I am not trolling. I thought I already went over that.

However you've just added sexist to your bill.

No, I just wanted to get the forum male sissies to come out and chastise me.

Primarily I think you're just mouthing off because you think you have a point. However the sad and fickle thing is, you don't.

See, it's very easy to say YOUR OPINION IS WRONG LOL. What isn't so easy is to prove why it's wrong. I put forth several arguments as to why DLCs should be free - because other companies provide more content for free and don't insult their fans by releasing single player loot pinata DLCs with almost no content for good amount of money and pretend they're amazing.

There are more people willing to purchase the future DLC/Expansions because they know it's worth it to support the company that makes quality and enjoyable games.

Those people are suckers. Look, there's nothing wrong with supporting a company. There IS something wrong however, when said company is blatantly ripping off loyal fans, which is my main argument.

You sir just think everything should be free, hate to break it to you but silver platters with everything on it are fresh out.

I have no problem paying for something. WoW costs me $15/month. I think it's well worth it for the amount of content that I get and fun I have with friends. I have a problem getting ripped off, which is what Bioware is doing with DLCs. Too bad most people here wear rose colored goggles.

Just end your trolling now..it is a failure...this is for you.

[DLAN_Immortality]

wowpwnslol wrote...

DLAN_Immortality wrote...

ZZZZ

Okay, you know Bioware is being really nice by making DLCs right? Because they could do what everybody else does, which is release the game and release bug fixing patches and forget about everything else.

Why do we always want MOAR and MOAR ? >:-[ You don't really need to buy them, you know. Just play the vanilla game and have fun.

See that's what I am talking about. You're being a submissive fanboi, if you really belive what you just written. You're actually praising Bio for releasing game without bugs? Really? It's something that should have been done in the first place - and they let gamebreaking dex bug to go live after years of development. And sycophants like you still praise them. Sad.

Firstly, I'm a fanGIRL. :-)

Secondly, I'm praising Bioware and praising them doesn't mean I'm submissive, it means I agree with what they're doing.

Thirdly, I'm not praising them for "releasing a game without bugs", you should learn how to read, sir.

And lastly, you are the only one being a sad example by insulting people because they just happen to disagree with you.

But oh, well, keep whining, bb. ;-)

[Abriael_CG]

DLAN_Immortality wrote...
Firstly, I'm a fanGIRL. :-)

Don't worry. Now you'll be forgiven