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SarEnyaDor wrote...

I did notice it, but I hate boxed cereal.



Well that's the sad point. While in development for the new cereal we had created an amazing box-art. Unfortunately we gave them all away, not even filling the boxes with the bagged cereal. So since we're now going out of business, we're just selling them in bag form. If you want a bag it'll be 400 points.

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Crimzon Nutcase wrote...

SarEnyaDor wrote...

I did notice it, but I hate boxed cereal.



Well that's the sad point. While in development for the new cereal we had created an amazing box-art. Unfortunately we gave them all away, not even filling the boxes with the bagged cereal. So since we're now going out of business, we're just selling them in bag form. If you want a bag it'll be 400 points.


*wisper* Crimzon, the cereal got delayed. you will have to give them the news... good luck.:?

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OP are you talking about DotA? Because you mentioned new heroes... If you are dota is a user made content that happened to be popular. Not owned by blizzard, in fact the maker of dota is now trying to create his own gamw now. Why? To earn money LOL

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MrHimuraChan wrote...

Crimzon Nutcase wrote...

SarEnyaDor wrote...

I did notice it, but I hate boxed cereal.



Well that's the sad point. While in development for the new cereal we had created an amazing box-art. Unfortunately we gave them all away, not even filling the boxes with the bagged cereal. So since we're now going out of business, we're just selling them in bag form. If you want a bag it'll be 400 points.


*wisper* Crimzon, the cereal got delayed. you will have to give them the news... good luck.:?



KKKKKHHHHAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nah I'll let my sister's bf Chris do it.


:devil:

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However, there should be a tax for obvious trolling attempts

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Elanareon wrote...

OP are you talking about DotA? Because you mentioned new heroes... If you are dota is a user made content that happened to be popular. Not owned by blizzard, in fact the maker of dota is now trying to create his own gamw now. Why? To earn money LOL


Try reading up about those heroes that Blizzard added to actual game free of charge.

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If there's one thing I've learnt frequenting dev sites, it's never to expect rational answers when you question pricing polices and whatnot.



More often than not the majority are made up of people that will blindly accept what they're given regardless of what financial costs are incurred. You just need to look further down the forum to see what i mean. There's a guy/gal announcing he'd have happily paid $99 for some more dialogue, which not surprisingly many agreed was a fantastic idea.



I suggest you go to a non dev forum if you're wanting some sensible answers and not just dismissed out of hand. A dev forum is never the best place to post this sort of subject.



Post how fantastic DA:O/Bioware are and you'll make a heap of friends.

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I think we need to keep in mind the fact that if Bioware was not charging for DLC there likely wouldn't be any DLC.

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Perhaps you can wait a week or two and get the free DLC of the mod that I've been busy creating for the past month or so. That'll be 30-60 mins of content (and with multiple options to resolve it, to keep with Dragon Age's theme of choice and consequence), with full voice acting...



You wanted free DLC, so how does a user made addition to the single player story grab you?

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darrenr22 wrote...

I think we need to keep in mind the fact that if Bioware was not charging for DLC there likely wouldn't be any DLC.


But I think the problem with many DLC nowadays is it's difficult to tell the geniune from the stuff that's been merely withheld form the game proper as to allow devs to cash in needlessly.  There's devs out there that release stuff like co-op, different play options, map packs, costume changes, difficulty options, armour and weapons ffs.

Then there's Bethesada that charged us extra if we wanted an open ended FO3.  A lot of devs are taking the ******.

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AmstradHero wrote...

Perhaps you can wait a week or two and get the free DLC of the mod that I've been busy creating for the past month or so. That'll be 30-60 mins of content (and with multiple options to resolve it, to keep with Dragon Age's theme of choice and consequence), with full voice acting...

You wanted free DLC, so how does a user made addition to the single player story grab you?


Yeah! I've been waiting for this kind of mod! 

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*Note's that OP hasn't got the game registered*
*Note's the OP's name*
*Sniffs air*

I smell troll.

*Turns to leave then notices the following*

Abriael_CG wrote...

FOUR cups of coffee. 'nuff said. Get over it.


No, no no no!!  NOOOO!!!   Not only is that a flawed comparison that I will not go into, but *rips shirt* I hate it!!!  It really grates on my nerves!  Ragh!!!!  Bloody coffee drinkers!

*Puts tea towel on head*
*Summons the Teasmen for WAR*

j/k :wizard:

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wowpwnslol wrote...

I think it's a huge joke for Bioware to charge outrageous amounts of money for so little content. All of them can be finished in less than an hour and their main purpose is not to advance the story in a meaningful way, but to give player extra items. I can admit that Shale was moderately interesting - but then again they're planning on charging $15 for it, which is ridiculous. Don't get me started on RtO - they are basically recycling old stuff and charging for it. Oh wow, it has some new items. How amazing.

I think if the DLC's were free, it would really show commitment and dedication of Bioware to the community and encourage more people to buy this game. I think they could take a page out of Blizzard's book (free battle.net) on how to treat the fans of their game.


it's 5 dollars for Rto...idiot, and the shale was free...

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jayheld90 wrote...

wowpwnslol wrote...

I think it's a huge joke for Bioware to charge outrageous amounts of money for so little content. All of them can be finished in less than an hour and their main purpose is not to advance the story in a meaningful way, but to give player extra items. I can admit that Shale was moderately interesting - but then again they're planning on charging $15 for it, which is ridiculous. Don't get me started on RtO - they are basically recycling old stuff and charging for it. Oh wow, it has some new items. How amazing.

I think if the DLC's were free, it would really show commitment and dedication of Bioware to the community and encourage more people to buy this game. I think they could take a page out of Blizzard's book (free battle.net) on how to treat the fans of their game.


it's 5 dollars for Rto...idiot, and the shale was free...


Im not sure how this works, but i think if you bought the game used you cannot get the shale DLC for free. So basically they say: "you did not pre-order or bought the game new? Well F*** you."
Overpriced DLCs is common, but with shale, i dont think its overpriced because of the quantity, but for a "stunt" for people to buy the game new and not buy it used.

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should this, should that, let's not should every game company to death, DLC is pretty much the future, if you look at fallout 3, Borderlands etc.i'm sure a lot of people here think you should be a troll, but are you? i think you know that more than anyone else.

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Well obviously you are new to BW, as they once had a very strong support system in place for NWN. Also BattleNet has been the hairy arm pit of the internet for years. Even NWN had small DLC like King Maker etc. Community wise, BW of the past had a far more civilized board then BNet, mostly because of the community support. I have a hard time taking you seriously OP, your name defines everything I hope BW never becomes.


edit.
You don't even have a registered copy of DA OP. You smell a little fishy to me.

Modifié par Wompoo, 12 janvier 2010 - 11:53 .


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Yes they should be free, but we live in the world of the corporations and the concept of something being free makes them break down in tears and a cold sweat.

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Oh God forbid Bioware would actually make a profit. I personally want them to go bankrupt as soon as possible. Can't stand the idea of great BW games being released in the future.

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Few87 wrote...

Yes they should be free, but we live in the world of the corporations and the concept of something being free makes them break down in tears and a cold sweat.


Would you work for free?

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Por lo menos si van a sacar DLC y nos lo van a cobrar, muevanse un poco para que las versiones piratas no se filtren antes que las oficiales...

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Dr Bawbag wrote...

darrenr22 wrote...

I think we need to keep in mind the fact that if Bioware was not charging for DLC there likely wouldn't be any DLC.


But I think the problem with many DLC nowadays is it's difficult to tell the geniune from the stuff that's been merely withheld form the game proper as to allow devs to cash in needlessly.  There's devs out there that release stuff like co-op, different play options, map packs, costume changes, difficulty options, armour and weapons ffs.

Then there's Bethesada that charged us extra if we wanted an open ended FO3.  A lot of devs are taking the ******.


True. In the end it comes down to a question of trust. Do you trust the company you are purchasing from to not pull that kind of stunt? I think these things have to be judged on a case by case basis.

It still does not invalidate my original observation that revenue is the major motivation for companies like Bioware to produce DLC.

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can that wow guy just shot his face?

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It took Bethesda awhile to find the "sweet spot" for DLC, and it appears that the same will be true for Bioware. Judging by the mix of gear that my characters wear in-game, I'd say that they *did* under-itemize the basic game a bit. My guess is that what's wanted is DLC that's a bit more expensive and that contributes substantially more in the way of story.

As for "free" content in WoW, sure it's free--for only $15 per month. 

Modifié par Imryll, 12 janvier 2010 - 01:08 .


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TastyLaksa wrote...

Few87 wrote...

Yes they should be free, but we live in the world of the corporations and the concept of something being free makes them break down in tears and a cold sweat.


Would you work for free?


Free DLC = more people willing to buy the game = more profit. You have to see it from a different angle. Free service and free patches containing content is what made Blizzard such a successful company. Maybe Bio/EA could try it for a change. Might make them less hated and it might do wonders for their recent financial hardships.

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wowpwnslol wrote...

I think it's a huge joke for Bioware to charge outrageous amounts of money for so little content. All of them can be finished in less than an hour and their main purpose is not to advance the story in a meaningful way, but to give player extra items. I can admit that Shale was moderately interesting - but then again they're planning on charging $15 for it, which is ridiculous. Don't get me started on RtO - they are basically recycling old stuff and charging for it. Oh wow, it has some new items. How amazing.

I think if the DLC's were free, it would really show commitment and dedication of Bioware to the community and encourage more people to buy this game. I think they could take a page out of Blizzard's book (free battle.net) on how to treat the fans of their game.


If you can finish the Stone Prisoner in one hour I'll give you your $15 back.

Stone Prisoner:
1) Explore Honnleath and complete a quest to free Shale. Some great new items (Helm of Honnleath :o) and battles to be fought.
2) Listen to all the dialogues with Shale (raise her approval)
3) Listen to all the new random party banters (Shale + other companion)
4) Complete Shale's sidequest (make sure Shale is in your party when you approach Caridin in the Deep Roads for some added dialogue)
5) Listen to all the new special dialogues (Shale's comments on certain events, mostly during quests)
6) Collect Crystals and give them to Shale and unlock her unique talents and learn how to use them.

This is not 1 hour worth of content! Get Shale ASAP (right after Lothering) and you can enjoy this DLC for over 50 hours! 

I've completed this game six times so that's 6x50=300 hours. I'd gladly pay $15 for that!

Besides, you get The Stone Prisoner for free if you've bought Dragon Age Origins which is very generous of Bioware IMO. That's something we haven't seen before, Bethesda asked $4 for Horse Armor while BioWare gives us a $15 worth DLC for free. And you actually dare to say that Bioware is not generous? You should be glad they even take the time to work on DLC's.

DLC's are big moneymakers and using them to convince people to buy the original game is a bad idea.

Modifié par bas273, 12 janvier 2010 - 01:12 .