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#126
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She's a Vanguard. Vanguards aren't allowed to perform.

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Where's Stardusk? I need more entertainment!

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UnknownMercenary wrote...

Where's Stardusk? I need more entertainment!



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While your waiting ... peruse this thread of Cabal Build ideas. Looking for more build ideas.

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Ace-Malo wrote...

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While your waiting ... peruse this thread of Cabal Build ideas. Looking for more build ideas.


You can make as many builds as you want, this character was never meant to kill bosses.

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Ace-Malo wrote...

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While your waiting ... peruse this thread of Cabal Build ideas. Looking for more build ideas.


You can make as many builds as you want, this character was never meant to kill bosses.

 

Many characters aren't ment to do that. She's a hit and run type of deal. But she can stand her ground like a soldier unlike other Vanguards.  

Buff Poison Strike range, damage and DOT or DOT duration and fix it so that range evos work. 
Buff Nighshade Blade DOT and DOT duration and maybe capacity by 2.  

Good to go. 

Modifié par Air Quotes, 04 mars 2013 - 01:08 .


#132
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Air Quotes wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Ace-Malo wrote...

<_<

>_>
 

While your waiting ... peruse this thread of Cabal Build ideas. Looking for more build ideas.


You can make as many builds as you want, this character was never meant to kill bosses.

 

Many charaters aren't ment to do that. She's a hit and run type of deal. But she can stand her ground like a soldier unlike other Vanguards.  

Buff Poison Strike range, damage and DOT or DOT duration and fix it so that range evos work. 
Buff Nighshade blade DOT and DOT duration and maybe capacity by 2.  

Good to go. 


Arguably, slap a hurricane on anything and you get an instant boss killer, especially with passive stability bonuses.
As for the poison abilities, they arguably should deal SIGNIFCANTLY more damage as DOT as opposed to up front. I would probably argue for a massive DOT buff, a dot Duration buff, and the option for duration buffs in addition to power damage buffs.in the passive, at the cost of a slight initial debuff. Obviously exact values would be up for argument and discussion. Actually, you could probably replace force bonuses with duration bonuses, most of her abilities aren`t high force abilities anyway, and she`s not looking to stagger gold phantoms as well.

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Air Quotes wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Ace-Malo wrote...

<_<

>_>
 

While your waiting ... peruse this thread of Cabal Build ideas. Looking for more build ideas.


You can make as many builds as you want, this character was never meant to kill bosses.

 

Many characters aren't ment to do that. She's a hit and run type of deal. But she can stand her ground like a soldier unlike other Vanguards.  

Buff Poison Strike range, damage and DOT or DOT duration and fix it so that range evos work. 
Buff Nighshade Blade DOT and DOT duration and maybe capacity by 2.  

Good to go. 



These would help, but I think Biotic Focus should buff her power damage instead of melee and the shield restore should be a base aspect of the power. 

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RoundedPlanet88 wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Ace-Malo wrote...

<_<

>_>
 

While your waiting ... peruse this thread of Cabal Build ideas. Looking for more build ideas.


You can make as many builds as you want, this character was never meant to kill bosses.

 

Many charaters aren't ment to do that. She's a hit and run type of deal. But she can stand her ground like a soldier unlike other Vanguards.  

Buff Poison Strike range, damage and DOT or DOT duration and fix it so that range evos work. 
Buff Nighshade blade DOT and DOT duration and maybe capacity by 2.  

Good to go. 


Arguably, slap a hurricane on anything and you get an instant boss killer, especially with passive stability bonuses.
As for the poison abilities, they arguably should deal SIGNIFCANTLY more damage as DOT as opposed to up front. I would probably argue for a massive DOT buff, a dot Duration buff, and the option for duration buffs in addition to power damage buffs.in the passive, at the cost of a slight initial debuff. Obviously exact values would be up for argument and discussion. Actually, you could probably replace force bonuses with duration bonuses, most of her abilities aren`t high force abilities anyway, and she`s not looking to stagger gold phantoms as well.


I like the idea of replacing her force bonus with a duration bonus

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I learned a long time ago not to listen to anything Stardusk says.

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Air Quotes wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Ace-Malo wrote...

<_<

>_>
 

While your waiting ... peruse this thread of Cabal Build ideas. Looking for more build ideas.


You can make as many builds as you want, this character was never meant to kill bosses.

 

Many characters aren't ment to do that. She's a hit and run type of deal. But she can stand her ground like a soldier unlike other Vanguards.  

Buff Poison Strike range, damage and DOT or DOT duration and fix it so that range evos work. 
Buff Nighshade Blade DOT and DOT duration and maybe capacity by 2.  

Good to go. 



As far as non-weapon passive buffs go, I could see the following:

More range on Poison Strike, better weight capacity, greater speed on biotic focus.

Modifié par Stardusk, 04 mars 2013 - 01:15 .


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Invader Nemesis wrote...

I learned a long time ago not to listen to anything Stardusk says.


And why is that?

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FataliTensei wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Ace-Malo wrote...

<_<

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While your waiting ... peruse this thread of Cabal Build ideas. Looking for more build ideas.


You can make as many builds as you want, this character was never meant to kill bosses.

 

Many characters aren't ment to do that. She's a hit and run type of deal. But she can stand her ground like a soldier unlike other Vanguards.  

Buff Poison Strike range, damage and DOT or DOT duration and fix it so that range evos work. 
Buff Nighshade Blade DOT and DOT duration and maybe capacity by 2.  

Good to go. 



These would help, but I think Biotic Focus should buff her power damage instead of melee and the shield restore should be a base aspect of the power. 

 

That would require a rewrite and Bioware won't do that. They only do plain buffs or nerfs. 

Only Singularity recieved a rewrite and that took more than half a year. 

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FataliTensei wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Ace-Malo wrote...

<_<

>_>
 

While your waiting ... peruse this thread of Cabal Build ideas. Looking for more build ideas.


You can make as many builds as you want, this character was never meant to kill bosses.

 

Many characters aren't ment to do that. She's a hit and run type of deal. But she can stand her ground like a soldier unlike other Vanguards.  

Buff Poison Strike range, damage and DOT or DOT duration and fix it so that range evos work. 
Buff Nighshade Blade DOT and DOT duration and maybe capacity by 2.  

Good to go. 



These would help, but I think Biotic Focus should buff her power damage instead of melee and the shield restore should be a base aspect of the power. 


I like the idea of shield restore being a base power. Then for 6A, instead of shield restore you get a 25% weapon damage boost.

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Stardusk wrote...

FataliTensei wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Ace-Malo wrote...

<_<

>_>
 

While your waiting ... peruse this thread of Cabal Build ideas. Looking for more build ideas.


You can make as many builds as you want, this character was never meant to kill bosses.

 

Many characters aren't ment to do that. She's a hit and run type of deal. But she can stand her ground like a soldier unlike other Vanguards.  

Buff Poison Strike range, damage and DOT or DOT duration and fix it so that range evos work. 
Buff Nighshade Blade DOT and DOT duration and maybe capacity by 2.  

Good to go. 



These would help, but I think Biotic Focus should buff her power damage instead of melee and the shield restore should be a base aspect of the power. 


I like the idea of shield restore being a base power. Then for 6A, instead of shield restore you get a 25% weapon damage boost.


Star, if you boost her weapon damage in any significant way you severely impact the need for the turian soldier and sentinel. Why?->since she will have an amazing dodge, congruent shields, a power that restores barriers and has I frames, and a greande-based staggering CC power that deals a lot of damage. While still maintaining roughly congruent weapon bonuses. If she really needs a buff its like I said earlier to her DoT effects, and DOT duration.

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couldn't possibly be any worse than the Krogan Warlord on Platinum.

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RoundedPlanet88 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

FataliTensei wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Ace-Malo wrote...

<_<

>_>
 

While your waiting ... peruse this thread of Cabal Build ideas. Looking for more build ideas.


You can make as many builds as you want, this character was never meant to kill bosses.

 

Many characters aren't ment to do that. She's a hit and run type of deal. But she can stand her ground like a soldier unlike other Vanguards.  

Buff Poison Strike range, damage and DOT or DOT duration and fix it so that range evos work. 
Buff Nighshade Blade DOT and DOT duration and maybe capacity by 2.  

Good to go. 



These would help, but I think Biotic Focus should buff her power damage instead of melee and the shield restore should be a base aspect of the power. 


I like the idea of shield restore being a base power. Then for 6A, instead of shield restore you get a 25% weapon damage boost.


Star, if you boost her weapon damage in any significant way you severely impact the need for the turian soldier and sentinel. Why?->since she will have an amazing dodge, congruent shields, a power that restores barriers and has I frames, and a greande-based staggering CC power that deals a lot of damage. While still maintaining roughly congruent weapon bonuses. If she really needs a buff its like I said earlier to her DoT effects, and DOT duration.

 

This. With weapons damage and base shield restore with speed and DR she will outclass even the TGI. 

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RoundedPlanet88 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

FataliTensei wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Ace-Malo wrote...

<_<

>_>
 

While your waiting ... peruse this thread of Cabal Build ideas. Looking for more build ideas.


You can make as many builds as you want, this character was never meant to kill bosses.

 

Many characters aren't ment to do that. She's a hit and run type of deal. But she can stand her ground like a soldier unlike other Vanguards.  

Buff Poison Strike range, damage and DOT or DOT duration and fix it so that range evos work. 
Buff Nighshade Blade DOT and DOT duration and maybe capacity by 2.  

Good to go. 



These would help, but I think Biotic Focus should buff her power damage instead of melee and the shield restore should be a base aspect of the power. 


I like the idea of shield restore being a base power. Then for 6A, instead of shield restore you get a 25% weapon damage boost.


Star, if you boost her weapon damage in any significant way you severely impact the need for the turian soldier and sentinel. Why?->since she will have an amazing dodge, congruent shields, a power that restores barriers and has I frames, and a greande-based staggering CC power that deals a lot of damage. While still maintaining roughly congruent weapon bonuses. If she really needs a buff its like I said earlier to her DoT effects, and DOT duration.


No. the T.Soldier has Marksman, the Sentinel, Overload and Warp, can't replace those. 

DOT is pretty useless. enemies are dead long before DOT actually does anything.

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Air Quotes wrote...

This. With weapons damage and base shield restore with speed and DR she will outclass even the TGI. 


I wouldn`t go quite that far, but she would arguably compete with the TGI

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No. the T.Soldier has Marksman, the Sentinel, Overload and Warp, can't replace those. 

DOT is pretty useless. enemies are dead long before DOT actually does anything.

And she has MASSIVE mobility. And a grenade power and a power that restores barriers and gives DR, and is Spammable, AND stackable (as near as I can tell, the visual sure does stack.) She REALLY doesn't need large damage bonuses, she`s already arguably much more survivable.

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Platinum solo according to the absurd glorious rules of the Platinum hall of fame?
Here you go...
Build 46664
Wraith + Warp ammo IV
It was actually 10 mins faster than I did the same setup with the EDI bot... This is a great solo character
It works... just take the nightshade blades and all will be well
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Modifié par 100RenegadePoints, 04 mars 2013 - 03:34 .


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Annomander wrote...

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Ironically, it's the people who have 0 entries on the list who take issue with the rules. 


They are not interested, so they don't follow them, so no entries. Makes sense to me.


No, the people complaining have no entries at all, even before the rules for Reckoning characters were implemented.

They never paid any attention to the post until it suited them to get up on their high horse and start flaming about a few simple rules designed to promote variety and kill off endless firebase giant spam...  None of them had made any attempt before to get themselves included in the post, or showed any interest in soloing, yet when rules were implemented which didn't affect them (they don't solo often) they got mad because.... I don't know?

So, no, it didn't make sense to you as you completely misunderstood.


Because you know they never attempted and never even read it somehow. Some might but those who complained about the rules have obviously read them and decided it wasn't worth it for them.

I might have misunderstood but then you totally contraddicted yourself.

I do think however that the idea of adding variety in the solos is a good one.

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100RenegadePoints wrote...

Platinum solo according to the absurd glorious rules of the Platinum hall of fame?
Here you go...
Build 46664
Wraith + Warp ammo IV
It was actually 10 mins faster than I did the same setup with the EDI bot... This is a great solo character
It works... just take the nightshade blades and all will be well
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How do you kill Primes and Banshees with Nightshade Blades?

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Stardusk wrote...

How do you kill Primes and Banshees with Nightshade Blades?


How do you kill Primes and Banshees with a Turian Sentinel? This is Platinum you're talking about, you are supposed to use the best weapons.

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She seems to be missing something if you ask me. Most vanguards are good weapon users due to the weapon synergy evo. Then there are the weapon platforms that have large debuffs and/or damage bonuses. Now you have the power users who spam powers/explosions for damage and supplement that with weapon damage.

The Cabal doesn't have debuffs nor damage bonuses/synergy and her powers are lackluster in the damage department if you ask me. She's a fun kit and all, it just seems they forgot something. Maybe it's her base blade capacity, maybe it's how inconstant and lackluster poison strike is, maybe it's a bit of both. I'm not really sure but she does seem to be missing something.

Then again, I've only used her a couple times and both times I used a 0 passive melee build, so I could probably use more experience with her.


This. I really enjoy the class, but poison strike is completely underwhelming. It is supposed to paralyze enemies right? I don't think I've paralyzed a single enemy in 4 or 5 extractions. Many times I dash through a few enemies and not a single one gets the green slimy sh*t. I finally decided to put only 4 ranks in it and use it only for mobility. For damage it sucks hardcore ass.