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[me0120]

squidney2k1 wrote...

 The problem is that the visualization of Ascension Mode is easy to forget, and 30 seconds is quick for your eyes to pass over. Also, the Asari melee-like animation takes way too damn long and can get you killed.

Possible adjustments:

• Extend the time to 60 seconds
• 75% damage reduction during activation OR increase the animation speed
• Movement speed bonus of 15% while active
• Damage dealt needs to better match damage taken: base dmg bonus increased to 15%
• Improve the visualization of the glow to better match that of the possessed Collectors so you can easily know when it wears off.

I crossed out the ones that would need a patch. 

[Grunt_Platform]

Saints944 wrote...

First!
Nope. Make it toggle.

That assumes they can.

There's a pretty good chance it's duration or nothing at this point, unless you want to wait for them to decide it's worth putting in a patch.

[Saints]

Alright. I'm all for duration, but at least make it more noticeable when it goes off.

[Original Twigman]

Saints944 wrote...

Alright. I'm all for duration, but at least make it more noticeable when it goes off.

i don't think they'll be able to without a patch.

and franky.... i don't think their will be another patch.

Modifié par Original Stikman, 04 mars 2013 - 06:07 .

[corporal doody]

no

[Saints]

Original Stikman wrote...

Saints944 wrote...

Alright. I'm all for duration, but at least make it more noticeable when it goes off.

i don't think they'll be able to without a patch.

and franky.... i don't think their will be another patch.

Makes me wonder how they test these guys.

[Clayless]

No it could just do with a damage buff (even though I think it's fine as is).

[Original Twigman]

Saints944 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

Saints944 wrote...

Alright. I'm all for duration, but at least make it more noticeable when it goes off.

i don't think they'll be able to without a patch.

and franky.... i don't think their will be another patch.

Makes me wonder how they test these guys.

yeah... i dunno.

Hell, if i could, i would test DLCs (and sign a contract to keep quiet) for freaking credits...

I was a bit disappointed with my 1 mil+ earnings today not gettins a singly freaking UR.... seriously. Lancer 1 and Venom 1... thats all ive gotten from 6-7 mil....

also got a valkyrie IV today <_<, terrible platinum gun.

anyway... back to what the topic was....

I wonder if they use game testers who are unfamiliar with the game....

[TeamLexana]

Original Stikman wrote...

Saints944 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

Saints944 wrote...

Alright. I'm all for duration, but at least make it more noticeable when it goes off.

i don't think they'll be able to without a patch.

and franky.... i don't think their will be another patch.

Makes me wonder how they test these guys.

yeah... i dunno.

Hell, if i could, i would test DLCs (and sign a contract to keep quiet) for freaking credits...

I was a bit disappointed with my 1 mil+ earnings today not gettins a singly freaking UR.... seriously. Lancer 1 and Venom 1... thats all ive gotten from 6-7 mil....

also got a valkyrie IV today <_<, terrible platinum gun.

anyway... back to what the topic was....

I wonder if they use game testers who are unfamiliar with the game....

You and me both, lol.

[AnathamaDye]

With the major increase in damage taken it should definitely be a toggle.

[squidney2k1]

me0120 wrote...

squidney2k1 wrote...

 The problem is that the visualization of Ascension Mode is easy to forget, and 30 seconds is quick for your eyes to pass over. Also, the Asari melee-like animation takes way too damn long and can get you killed.

Possible adjustments:

• Extend the time to 60 seconds
• 75% damage reduction during activation OR increase the animation speed
• Movement speed bonus of 15% while active
• Damage dealt needs to better match damage taken: base dmg bonus increased to 15%
• Improve the visualization of the glow to better match that of the possessed Collectors so you can easily know when it wears off.

I crossed out the ones that would need a patch. 

Addition of damage reduction and movement speed bonuses would NOT require a patch. They've done those with melee powers via balance changes.

[Saints]

TeamLexana wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

Saints944 wrote...

]Makes me wonder how they test these guys.

yeah... i dunno.

Hell, if i could, i would test DLCs (and sign a contract to keep quiet) for freaking credits...

I was a bit disappointed with my 1 mil+ earnings today not gettins a singly freaking UR.... seriously. Lancer 1 and Venom 1... thats all ive gotten from 6-7 mil....

also got a valkyrie IV today <_<, terrible platinum gun.

anyway... back to what the topic was....

I wonder if they use game testers who are unfamiliar with the game....

You and me both, lol.

Since the majority of players well... play silver (could of been tested on added with some changes for gold/platinum) ascension is not not much of a hassle on it. Us 30% gold/platinumers might suffer for silver testers.

[xSNPx ZoDiaC]

Original Stikman wrote...

The damage taken is fine in my book. Removing the damage taken is way too much. Its giving a 40% damage bonus for nothing. Thats like having Tactical cloak on, all the time.

extending the time is a good start.

We can always work from there.

Unfortunately, i don't think they will change the animation, it isn't worth it.

Are you even aware of how squishy you become if you spec only into ascension mode? With Ascenion mode your barrier/health is lower than a Volus that has zero fitness... lower. I'm sorry but not only does it not make sense(Possessed troopers get more durable) but it is also completely impractical. 

Either remove the damage taken completely and settle with 975ish barriers from the first 3 fitness ranks. Or add damage reduction while lowering 40(or is it 30?)% max damage output to something more reasonable to compensate.

Modifié par xSNPx ZoDiaC, 04 mars 2013 - 07:03 .

[Original Twigman]

xSNPx ZoDiaC wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

The damage taken is fine in my book. Removing the damage taken is way too much. Its giving a 40% damage bonus for nothing. Thats like having Tactical cloak on, all the time.

extending the time is a good start.

We can always work from there.

Unfortunately, i don't think they will change the animation, it isn't worth it.

Are you even aware of how squishy you become if you spec only into ascension mode? With Ascenion mode your barrier/health is lower than a Volus that has zero fitness... lower. I'm sorry but not only does it not make sense(Possessed troopers get more durable) but it is also completely impractical. 

Either remove the damage taken completely and settle with 975ish barriers from the first 3 fitness ranks. Or add damage reduction while lowering 40% max damage output to something more reasonable to compensate.

you are totally right... i only play bronze/silver... so i dunno what I am talking about...

wouldnt dare to take him on platinum

[xSNPx ZoDiaC]

Original Stikman wrote...

xSNPx ZoDiaC wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

The damage taken is fine in my book. Removing the damage taken is way too much. Its giving a 40% damage bonus for nothing. Thats like having Tactical cloak on, all the time.

extending the time is a good start.

We can always work from there.

Unfortunately, i don't think they will change the animation, it isn't worth it.

Are you even aware of how squishy you become if you spec only into ascension mode? With Ascenion mode your barrier/health is lower than a Volus that has zero fitness... lower. I'm sorry but not only does it not make sense(Possessed troopers get more durable) but it is also completely impractical. 

Either remove the damage taken completely and settle with 975ish barriers from the first 3 fitness ranks. Or add damage reduction while lowering 40% max damage output to something more reasonable to compensate.

you are totally right... i only play bronze/silver... so i dunno what I am talking about...

wouldnt dare to take him on platinum

I don't care how much platinum you play. That does not excuse the reality of how impractical throwing -40% damage taken on a character is. If Ascension mode is going to get a duration buff, then it is critical for it to lose the damage taken penalty. 


It is not feasible, period.

[me0120]

squidney2k1 wrote...

me0120 wrote...

squidney2k1 wrote...

 The problem is that the visualization of Ascension Mode is easy to forget, and 30 seconds is quick for your eyes to pass over. Also, the Asari melee-like animation takes way too damn long and can get you killed.

Possible adjustments:

• Extend the time to 60 seconds
• 75% damage reduction during activation OR increase the animation speed
• Movement speed bonus of 15% while active
• Damage dealt needs to better match damage taken: base dmg bonus increased to 15%
• Improve the visualization of the glow to better match that of the possessed Collectors so you can easily know when it wears off.

I crossed out the ones that would need a patch. 

Addition of damage reduction and movement speed bonuses would NOT require a patch. They've done those with melee powers via balance changes.

I meant to only cross out the latter half of your second point. I don't think movement speed is included in Ascension Mode now, is it? I may be wrong on that one but if I'm correct that it's not already present, then you'll need a patch. 

And if you know about what does and doesn't require a patch why put things in that you know require a patch?

[Grunt_Platform]

squidney2k1 wrote...

Addition of damage reduction and movement speed bonuses would NOT require a patch. They've done those with melee powers via balance changes.

No they haven't. 

They've changed the damage reduction on powers that already gave DR, and changed the movement speed modifiers on powers and enemy states that already modified movement speed... but they've never added a new feature to a power in a balance change.

Modifié par EvanKester, 04 mars 2013 - 07:07 .

[me0120]

xSNPx ZoDiaC wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

xSNPx ZoDiaC wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

The damage taken is fine in my book. Removing the damage taken is way too much. Its giving a 40% damage bonus for nothing. Thats like having Tactical cloak on, all the time.

extending the time is a good start.

We can always work from there.

Unfortunately, i don't think they will change the animation, it isn't worth it.

Are you even aware of how squishy you become if you spec only into ascension mode? With Ascenion mode your barrier/health is lower than a Volus that has zero fitness... lower. I'm sorry but not only does it not make sense(Possessed troopers get more durable) but it is also completely impractical. 

Either remove the damage taken completely and settle with 975ish barriers from the first 3 fitness ranks. Or add damage reduction while lowering 40% max damage output to something more reasonable to compensate.

you are totally right... i only play bronze/silver... so i dunno what I am talking about...

wouldnt dare to take him on platinum

I don't care how much platinum you play. That does not excuse the reality of how impractical throwing -40% damage taken on a character is. If Ascension mode is going to get a duration buff, then it is critical for it to lose the damage taken penalty. 


It is not feasible, period.

They gave a damage reduction option on the Seeker Swarms for a reason.

[Saints]

xSNPx ZoDiaC wrote...

I don't care how much platinum you play. That does not excuse the reality of how impractical throwing -40% damage taken on a character is. If Ascension mode is going to get a duration buff, then it is critical for it to lose the damage taken penalty. 


It is not feasible, period.

You can say the same thing for Pheonix Characters and Dragoons. Dragoons are faster when walking and be able to shoot while attacking and have armor instead of health. I'm assuming when a Collector faction member is possesed it is being controlled by a Reaper right? Reaper possesion= benefits. When a Awakenend Collector goes into Asension it goes into "overdrive" instead of being controlled by a Giant AI. That being said "overdrive" will usually have "costs" meaning being able to take less damage. Basically he is not getting benefits like the Reaper controlled because no one is giving it to them.

Modifié par Saints944, 04 mars 2013 - 07:19 .

[xSNPx ZoDiaC]

me0120 wrote...

xSNPx ZoDiaC wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

xSNPx ZoDiaC wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

The damage taken is fine in my book. Removing the damage taken is way too much. Its giving a 40% damage bonus for nothing. Thats like having Tactical cloak on, all the time.

extending the time is a good start.

We can always work from there.

Unfortunately, i don't think they will change the animation, it isn't worth it.

Are you even aware of how squishy you become if you spec only into ascension mode? With Ascenion mode your barrier/health is lower than a Volus that has zero fitness... lower. I'm sorry but not only does it not make sense(Possessed troopers get more durable) but it is also completely impractical. 

Either remove the damage taken completely and settle with 975ish barriers from the first 3 fitness ranks. Or add damage reduction while lowering 40% max damage output to something more reasonable to compensate.

you are totally right... i only play bronze/silver... so i dunno what I am talking about...

wouldnt dare to take him on platinum

I don't care how much platinum you play. That does not excuse the reality of how impractical throwing -40% damage taken on a character is. If Ascension mode is going to get a duration buff, then it is critical for it to lose the damage taken penalty. 


It is not feasible, period.

They gave a damage reduction option on the Seeker Swarms for a reason.

It's still impractical. That leaves 975/600 barrier/health with a -20 penalty. He's about as fragile as a maxed fitness Volus now. The severe damage penalty is just too much. 

[me0120]

xSNPx ZoDiaC wrote...

me0120 wrote...

They gave a damage reduction option on the Seeker Swarms for a reason.

It's still impractical. That leaves 975/600 barrier/health with a -20 penalty. He's about as fragile as a maxed fitness Volus now. The severe damage penalty is just too much. 

Ascension Mode nets a -20% damage which can be upgraded to -40% if you feel like you can handle it (obviously we get that you can't). If that 40% is too high well, Seeker Swarms do a listed value of +10% each and can be upgraded from a Swarm count of 3 to a Swarm count of 4. What do you know? That's effectively the same thing, as long as you consider the paper numbers to be accurate. 

No other character gives you the opportunity to play as a normal character or as a glass cannon (and anywhere in between). 

[Stardusk]

Yes, toggle.

[Original Twigman]

me0120 wrote...

xSNPx ZoDiaC wrote...

me0120 wrote...

They gave a damage reduction option on the Seeker Swarms for a reason.

It's still impractical. That leaves 975/600 barrier/health with a -20 penalty. He's about as fragile as a maxed fitness Volus now. The severe damage penalty is just too much. 

Ascension Mode nets a -20% damage which can be upgraded to -40% if you feel like you can handle it (obviously we get that you can't). /

lol, damn....

I personally have spec'ed out of seeker swarm (for my latest go around), although I will test more builds out in the future. Works really well on platium.... so long as you aren't trying to tank enemies...

I meant... serious 1 hit from a phantom shield gates you anyway... so what does it matter if it does 40 % more yet taked you down the same?

The only enemies that a get a bonus from that are mooks... and i kill those

[Original Twigman]

bamp

[monkeyhunter]

Stardusk wrote...

Yes, toggle.

Not gonna work. People with max DR specced swarms would have an easy time maintaining a very fast cooldown and extra damage.