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[Eterna]

 This is kind of weird. I almost never get kicked and when I do it's for a good reason, but whenever I use the old Asari Adept on gold I get insta kicked in the lobby almost everytime. Is there something wrong with her? Is it because I'm only using the Acolyte 1? 

[Zero132132]

May be the acolyte thing. I can't recall ever getting a kickvote on her, but some gullibles may also think my high challenge score means something, so they may be under the false notion that I'm not, in fact, a scrub. When I used to get kickvotes, it was mostly for running a Drell.

[Eterna]

But she is a power class, the weapon is such a small part of my damage.

[superman6793]

I noticed everyone is kicking a lot lately may not be the kit your playing

[mybudgee]

See: the "kicking for stupid reasons" thread from yesterday

[Abramsrunner]

They're fools you should eat them.

[darkpassenger2342]

as long as you are using equipment you wont see any kick votes from most players.
if you arent, there is no excuse.

[Grunt_Platform]

I guess they think "why would you ever use an Acolyte on an Asari Adept" which.. I guess I see. The acolyte doesn't synergize too well with her, and relying on biotic explosions as your primary damage source is iffy.. but.

[Chala]

"You play because they allow it... And you'll be kicked because they demand it."

Modifié par El_Chala_Legalizado, 04 mars 2013 - 07:20 .

[Eugenesys]

If playing on gold or above
a. you're not using any consumables
b. you're using acolyte 1

both a & b combined, no matter how good your skills are, may highly suggest that others perceive you to be a newbie, and thus, a liability to the team.

Heance, kickvote.

Modifié par Eugenesys, 04 mars 2013 - 07:21 .

[Acyl]

OP: You've said the weapon shouldn't matter much for most Asari Adept builds. It shouldn't - but then look at this thread. There's another poster who just said that relying on biotic explosions is iffy.

It used to be that biotic explosions were the king of Gold. Now? Now people like weapon damage. They like tech powers. The game's changed. Or rather, people's expectations have. It's silly, but there you go.

So weapons. The Acolyte isn't a bad choice. But people are going to look at it and go, geez, the Acolyte's only a rare weapon. He only has it at I? Must be a noob. Obviously this guy can't play.

Yes, only a rare weapon. Because, let's face it, most dedicated players have all the rares maxed out to X, and only the Ultra Rares remaining below X. 

A friend of mine has been kicked for bringing a Mattock X to a Gold match. Because it's an uncommon weapon. Nevermind the fact that the Mattock is one of the best assault rifles. It's an uncommon. That's not good enough for some people.

Modifié par Acyl, 04 mars 2013 - 07:24 .

[KiraTsukasa]

EvanKester wrote...

I guess they think "why would you ever use an Acolyte on an Asari Adept" which.. I guess I see. The acolyte doesn't synergize too well with her, and relying on biotic explosions as your primary damage source is iffy.. but.

Do you even realize what you just said?

[Acyl]

KiraTsukasa wrote...

EvanKester wrote...

I guess they think "why would you ever use an Acolyte on an Asari Adept" which.. I guess I see. The acolyte doesn't synergize too well with her, and relying on biotic explosions as your primary damage source is iffy.. but.

Do you even realize what you just said?

I guess we know who's kicking the OP now. 

Modifié par Acyl, 04 mars 2013 - 07:25 .

[darkpassenger2342]

KiraTsukasa wrote...

EvanKester wrote...

I guess they think "why would you ever use an Acolyte on an Asari Adept" which.. I guess I see. The acolyte doesn't synergize too well with her, and relying on biotic explosions as your primary damage source is iffy.. but.

Do you even realize what you just said?

nowadays, hes kinda right.
relying on be's for damage sucks, especially if something is being hit with not biotic powers.
that doesnt mean BE's are resourceful, but they arent a main source of damage output.
also, warp throw and stasis really arent damage powers, you need a real gun to do damage with her.
her best damage option is warp with a good gun, and the acolytet is crap for dmg against armor and health.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 04 mars 2013 - 07:26 .

[DullahansXMark]

M1A2 Abrams Tank wrote...

They're eats you should fool them.

[KiraTsukasa]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

EvanKester wrote...

I guess they think "why would you ever use an Acolyte on an Asari Adept" which.. I guess I see. The acolyte doesn't synergize too well with her, and relying on biotic explosions as your primary damage source is iffy.. but.

Do you even realize what you just said?

nowadays, hes kinda right.
relying on be's for damage sucks.
also, warp throw and stasis really arent damage powers, you need a real gun to do damage with her.
her best damage option is warp with a good gun, and the acolytet is crap for dmg against armor and health.

Oh, sweet mother of...

I'm surrounded by idiots.

[darkpassenger2342]

KiraTsukasa wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

EvanKester wrote...

I guess they think "why would you ever use an Acolyte on an Asari Adept" which.. I guess I see. The acolyte doesn't synergize too well with her, and relying on biotic explosions as your primary damage source is iffy.. but.

Do you even realize what you just said?

nowadays, hes kinda right.
relying on be's for damage sucks.
also, warp throw and stasis really arent damage powers, you need a real gun to do damage with her.
her best damage option is warp with a good gun, and the acolytet is crap for dmg against armor and health.

Oh, sweet mother of...

I'm surrounded by idiots.

yeah ok, my manifest says otherwise, ****.
put some logic to the thought.
be's are weak and unreliable.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 04 mars 2013 - 07:38 .

[Tyrannus00]

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

"You play because they allow it... And you'll be kicked because they demand it."

[Acyl]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

nowadays, hes kinda right.
relying on be's for damage sucks.
also, warp throw and stasis really arent damage powers, you need a real gun to do damage with her.
her best damage option is warp with a good gun, and the acolytet is crap for dmg against armor and health.

Okay. Hold on for a second here. Biotic Explosions haven't gotten significantly less effective since the game launched. What's changed is that other options have gotten better. We have more guns now, and more people have rares and URs maxed out. Tech combos have also gotten a lot easier to do.

But people played Gold relying on BEs back in the day. And you can still play Gold with BEs now. It may not be the best, but it's good enough. Of course, it does depend on what else is in the team. Obviously a Biotic is only really really effective when paired with one or more other Biotics. There are issues.

You can do Biotics in Gold and get the job done, though. Is it the absolute best way to play? No. Is it GOOD ENOUGH? It is.

Or what, are you saying Turian Ghost Infiltrator, Geth Infiltrator, and Alliance Infiltration Unit are the only way to play Gold?

Modifié par Acyl, 04 mars 2013 - 07:36 .

[Koenig888]

It is more likely that the OP was kicked because he did not use consumables. I just did a Gold game using an Avenger X and everyone readied up instantly in the lobby. (I shall ..... resist .... temptation .... to post screen-shot of score.)

[darkpassenger2342]

Acyl wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

nowadays, hes kinda right.
relying on be's for damage sucks.
also, warp throw and stasis really arent damage powers, you need a real gun to do damage with her.
her best damage option is warp with a good gun, and the acolytet is crap for dmg against armor and health.

Okay. Hold on for a second here. Biotic Explosions haven't gotten significantly less effective since the game launched. What's changed is that other options have gotten better. We have more guns now, and more people have rares and URs maxed out. Tech combos have also gotten a lot easier to do.

But people played Gold relying on BEs back in the day. And you can still play Gold with BEs now. It may not be the best, but it's good enough. Of course, it does depend on what else is in the team. Obviously a Biotic is only really really effective when paired with one or more other Biotics. Synergy. 

You can't say it sucks, though. That's misrepresenting the situation. Nor can you say the Acolyte is a bad choice. It strips shields. That's the point. Get off that first layer of protection, then the Biotic Explosion should take things out more easily.

And by the way, Throw is amazing damage on non-boss targets. Bosses? That's what Warp+Throw BE is for. Is it the absolute best way to play? No. Is it GOOD ENOUGH? It is.

Or what, are you saying Turian Ghost Infiltrator, Geth Infiltrator, and Alliance Infiltration Unit are the only way to play Gold?

where did i say anything about infiltrators?

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 04 mars 2013 - 07:34 .

[Grunt_Platform]

Acyl wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

EvanKester wrote...

I guess they think "why would you ever use an Acolyte on an Asari Adept" which.. I guess I see. The acolyte doesn't synergize too well with her, and relying on biotic explosions as your primary damage source is iffy.. but.

Do you even realize what you just said?

I guess we know who's kicking the OP now. 

I wouldn't. That's what the "but" at the end is. I'll play with anyone.

And Warp+Throw BEs are much slower than using a pistol to go with it. If you're using the Acolyte just to strip shields to make way for your damage powers, we're talking about things like Flamer, or several different grenades. Acolyte + Throw will do a great job of taking out most mid-grade mooks, so that's not a bad pick.

I can see why people would go "oh no! N00b who's using Asari Adept!" but I still think they're wrong not to just see how it works out.

Modifié par EvanKester, 04 mars 2013 - 07:36 .

[Amusingthree93]

KiraTsukasa wrote...

EvanKester wrote...

I guess they think "why would you ever use an Acolyte on an Asari Adept" which.. I guess I see. The acolyte doesn't synergize too well with her, and relying on biotic explosions as your primary damage source is iffy.. but.

Do you even realize what you just said?

Well, there is not much reason to use acolyte on asari adept because she has no lifting powers. Executioner with stasis would be so much better... Also biotic primers get overwritten by tech. That said, I would not kick someone for using acolyte on asari adept. I would only kick if a player is using a shuriken without power magnifier mod. (the power magnifier mod actually gives some weapons a reason to exist; no matter how bad weapon is you could use it as a vehicle for power mag. mod)

Modifié par Amusingthree93, 04 mars 2013 - 07:36 .

[darkpassenger2342]

EvanKester wrote...

Acyl wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

EvanKester wrote...

I guess they think "why would you ever use an Acolyte on an Asari Adept" which.. I guess I see. The acolyte doesn't synergize too well with her, and relying on biotic explosions as your primary damage source is iffy.. but.

Do you even realize what you just said?

I guess we know who's kicking the OP now. 

I wouldn't. That's what the "but" at the end is. I'll play with anyone.

And Warp+Throw BEs are much slower than using a pistol to go with it.

I can see why people would go "oh no! N00b who's using Asari Adept!" but I still think they're wrong not to just see how it works out.

and all i was doing was agreeing with this perspective, but apparently were both idiots.