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[Shinnyshin]

zuckendesfleish wrote...

Yesterday I voted to kick an AA on gold because the player kept priming every single target I had already primed instead of just detonating the BE. I don't care about people stealing kills but doing that while you're trying to bring down a group of three phantoms is such a waste of time. Otherwise I would have never done that, AA is one of the most powerful characters IMHO.

Wait, they were bothering to Stasis things that were already primed?  That's just...weird.  Normally people I see reflexively spam Warp, which ends up working out.

Modifié par Shinnyshin, 04 mars 2013 - 12:01 .

[HolyAvenger]

Shinnyshin wrote...

zuckendesfleish wrote...

Yesterday I voted to kick an AA on gold because the player kept priming every single target I had already primed instead of just detonating the BE. I don't care about people stealing kills but doing that while you're trying to bring down a group of three phantoms is such a waste of time. Otherwise I would have never done that, AA is one of the most powerful characters IMHO.

Wait, they were bothering to Stasis things that were already primed?  That's just...weird.  Normally people I see reflexively spam Warp, which ends up working out.

Unless there were two players throwing warp.

But against Phantoms, I don't even bother with BEs (cause nope bubble). Stasis and shoot or Acolyte+whatever.

[Jovian09]

If you got kicked from any lobby of mine and you're not crap, it's probably because you succumbed to peer pressure by kicking someone with two votes already against them, and were summarily punished for it.

[zuckendesfleish]

HolyAvenger wrote...

Shinnyshin wrote...

zuckendesfleish wrote...

Yesterday I voted to kick an AA on gold because the player kept priming every single target I had already primed instead of just detonating the BE. I don't care about people stealing kills but doing that while you're trying to bring down a group of three phantoms is such a waste of time. Otherwise I would have never done that, AA is one of the most powerful characters IMHO.

Wait, they were bothering to Stasis things that were already primed?  That's just...weird.  Normally people I see reflexively spam Warp, which ends up working out.

Unless there were two players throwing warp.

But against Phantoms, I don't even bother with BEs (cause nope bubble). Stasis and shoot or Acolyte+whatever.

Yep, they were bothering to Stasis the warped and warping the warped  I also reflexively spam warp at times but since it was happening all the time they were clearly doing it on purpose. Pretty annoying.

[painforest]

I don't get people using this kit. No, she's not bad. There are just better options. Same with the Cerb Adept. I always see "Human Male Adept" in PUGs and assume it's the vanilla HA, but it's always the cerb adept. Why bring either of these kits when the regular HA is far more powerful and versatile? I don't get it.

[HolyAvenger]

painforest wrote...

I don't get people using this kit. No, she's not bad. There are just better options. Same with the Cerb Adept. I always see "Human Male Adept" in PUGs and assume it's the vanilla HA, but it's always the cerb adept. Why bring either of these kits when the regular HA is far more powerful and versatile? I don't get it.

Variety, for me

Its always fun to drag some gold PUG to glory using a Phoenixdept. Or to show some AIU or Harrier TGI on plat how its done

[KalilKareem]

painforest wrote...

I don't get people using this kit. No, she's not bad. There are just better options. Same with the Cerb Adept. I always see "Human Male Adept" in PUGs and assume it's the vanilla HA, but it's always the cerb adept. Why bring either of these kits when the regular HA is far more powerful and versatile? I don't get it.

The asari looks better, plus some people (like me) really like stasis. Cerb adept is just daft though.

[Skullheart]

You are playing on console.

/thread.

[hostaman]

 Probably because you're on EggsBox 

[Tosun01]

My Paladin gets kicked a lot too, even though he is usually the team's top scorer.

[HolyAvenger]

Tosun01 wrote...

My Paladin gets kicked a lot too, even though he is usually the team's top scorer.

Not hard if you're running around spamming Snap Freeze tbf.

Really annoying when a Paladin joins a lobby full of biotics

[Zorinho20_CRO]

HolyAvenger wrote...

Tosun01 wrote...

My Paladin gets kicked a lot too, even though he is usually the team's top scorer.

Not hard if you're running around spamming Snap Freeze tbf.

Really annoying when a Paladin joins a lobby full of biotics

I played few games with Milf-Bot and two Novaguards.Cryo explosions everywhere.

[HolyAvenger]

zorinho20 wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

Tosun01 wrote...

My Paladin gets kicked a lot too, even though he is usually the team's top scorer.

Not hard if you're running around spamming Snap Freeze tbf.

Really annoying when a Paladin joins a lobby full of biotics

I played few games with Milf-Bot and two Novaguards.Cryo explosions everywhere.

Yeah that's a pretty sweet. Novaguard is arguably the best detonator in the game.

[Tosun01]

HolyAvenger wrote...

Tosun01 wrote...

My Paladin gets kicked a lot too, even though he is usually the team's top scorer.

Not hard if you're running around spamming Snap Freeze tbf.

Really annoying when a Paladin joins a lobby full of biotics

In a lobby full of biotics I choose the Krogan Shaman. Shockwave +65% BE ftw.

Paladin is for a team of tech users or soldiers with incendiary. Snap freeze is great for deffubing, but if it is against Geth, I prefer Incinerate + Drain. Fire explosions.

But ppl kick me before any match. I get into a looby and they kick me. I guess the Paladin is underrated or something.


Got in match with the Krogan Shaman and two Novaguards once....Novaguards would kill anything primed with Warp in seconds.

Modifié par Tosun01, 04 mars 2013 - 02:26 .

[NuclearTech76]

KiraTsukasa wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

EvanKester wrote...

I guess they think "why would you ever use an Acolyte on an Asari Adept" which.. I guess I see. The acolyte doesn't synergize too well with her, and relying on biotic explosions as your primary damage source is iffy.. but.

Do you even realize what you just said?

nowadays, hes kinda right.
relying on be's for damage sucks.
also, warp throw and stasis really arent damage powers, you need a real gun to do damage with her.
her best damage option is warp with a good gun, and the acolytet is crap for dmg against armor and health.

Oh, sweet mother of...

I'm surrounded by idiots.

LOL.

What ragdolling power does the Asari Adept have that synergizes with the Acolyte?

What do you do for damage when someone overrides your BE's? You're useless without a decent weapon on that particular character.

Unless you're using incendiary rounds and the acolyte to proc then using the warp bug, you're not doing enough damage for Gold.

I wouldn't kick you as long as you had equipment OP but it is an inferior setup. Slap an Arc Pistol or Supressor on her and I think you will fair a lot better.

[inversevideo]

Amusingthree93 wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

EvanKester wrote...

I guess they think "why would you ever use an Acolyte on an Asari Adept" which.. I guess I see. The acolyte doesn't synergize too well with her, and relying on biotic explosions as your primary damage source is iffy.. but.

Do you even realize what you just said?

Well, there is not much reason to use acolyte on asari adept because she has no lifting powers. Executioner with stasis would be so much better... Also biotic primers get overwritten by tech. That said, I would not kick someone for using acolyte on asari adept. I would only kick if a player is using a shuriken without power magnifier mod. (the power magnifier mod actually gives some weapons a reason to exist; no matter how bad weapon is you could use it as a vehicle for power mag. mod)

Asari adept pwns phantoms. Stasis > acolyte > dead phantom (or mook of your choice).
Throw (4. force - 5. detonate 6. force & damage) can take out most mooks. Warp can still debuff..

I don't use the acolyte, now that the charge is back, but it is still viable for those who know how to use it, even at '1'.

[inversevideo]

NuclearTech76 wrote...


What ragdolling power does the Asari Adept have that synergizes with the Acolyte?

What do you do for damage when someone overrides your BE's? You're useless without a decent weapon on that particular character.

Unless you're using incendiary rounds and the acolyte to proc then using the warp bug, you're not doing enough damage for Gold.

I wouldn't kick you as long as you had equipment OP but it is an inferior setup. Slap an Arc Pistol or Supressor on her and I think you will fair a lot better.
.

ARC Pistol is the way I go these days. Or I did until the Executioner pistol cam out.  However, I find that the Executioner Pistol is a fine 2nd weapon, but too slow for a primary.

The ARC Pistol however, that is a fine caster weapon. Slap a scope and Armor piercing mod on it and you can bring down bosses. Especially when you debuff a target with warp. Spec warp for expose and pierce.

Modifié par inversevideo, 04 mars 2013 - 02:58 .

[NuclearTech76]

inversevideo wrote...

Amusingthree93 wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

EvanKester wrote...

I guess they think "why would you ever use an Acolyte on an Asari Adept" which.. I guess I see. The acolyte doesn't synergize too well with her, and relying on biotic explosions as your primary damage source is iffy.. but.

Do you even realize what you just said?

Well, there is not much reason to use acolyte on asari adept because she has no lifting powers. Executioner with stasis would be so much better... Also biotic primers get overwritten by tech. That said, I would not kick someone for using acolyte on asari adept. I would only kick if a player is using a shuriken without power magnifier mod. (the power magnifier mod actually gives some weapons a reason to exist; no matter how bad weapon is you could use it as a vehicle for power mag. mod)

Asari adept pwns phantoms. Stasis > acolyte > dead phantom (or mook of your choice).
Throw (4. force - 5. detonate 6. force & damage) can take out most mooks. Warp can still debuff..

I don't use the acolyte, now that the charge is back, but it is still viable for those who know how to use it, even at '1'.

The acolyte or stasis owns phantoms. It's kind of crazy to take the acolyte as your primary in this case. A suppressor, arc pistol, talon, or paladin would annihilate a stasised phantom and give you more damage against other enemies.

[NuclearTech76]

inversevideo wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...


What ragdolling power does the Asari Adept have that synergizes with the Acolyte?

What do you do for damage when someone overrides your BE's? You're useless without a decent weapon on that particular character.

Unless you're using incendiary rounds and the acolyte to proc then using the warp bug, you're not doing enough damage for Gold.

I wouldn't kick you as long as you had equipment OP but it is an inferior setup. Slap an Arc Pistol or Supressor on her and I think you will fair a lot better.
.

ARC Pistol is the way I go these days. Or I did until the Executioner pistol cam out.  However, I find that the Executioner Pistol is a fine 2nd weapon, but too slow for a primary.

The ARC Pistol however, that is a fine caster weapon. Slap a scope and Armor piercing mod on it and you can bring down bosses. Especially when you debuff a target with warp. Spec warp for expose and pierce.

It's my old set build but I think I want to try the suppressor on her now. I try to have a character for every decent weapon.

[joker_jack]

NuclearTech76 wrote...

inversevideo wrote...

Amusingthree93 wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

EvanKester wrote...

I guess they think "why would you ever use an Acolyte on an Asari Adept" which.. I guess I see. The acolyte doesn't synergize too well with her, and relying on biotic explosions as your primary damage source is iffy.. but.

Do you even realize what you just said?

Well, there is not much reason to use acolyte on asari adept because she has no lifting powers. Executioner with stasis would be so much better... Also biotic primers get overwritten by tech. That said, I would not kick someone for using acolyte on asari adept. I would only kick if a player is using a shuriken without power magnifier mod. (the power magnifier mod actually gives some weapons a reason to exist; no matter how bad weapon is you could use it as a vehicle for power mag. mod)

Asari adept pwns phantoms. Stasis > acolyte > dead phantom (or mook of your choice).
Throw (4. force - 5. detonate 6. force & damage) can take out most mooks. Warp can still debuff..

I don't use the acolyte, now that the charge is back, but it is still viable for those who know how to use it, even at '1'.

The acolyte or stasis owns phantoms. It's kind of crazy to take the acolyte as your primary in this case. A suppressor, arc pistol, talon, or paladin would annihilate a stasised phantom and give you more damage against other enemies.

Just about any decent kit with a talon and even half decent aim can do than. Been really impressed with the new Collector. That guy is a biotic wrecking ball of death. One more thing to keep the aa on the bench.

[NuclearTech76]

joker_jack wrote...

Just about any decent kit with a talon and even half decent aim can do than. Been really impressed with the new Collector. That guy is a biotic wrecking ball of death. One more thing to keep the aa on the bench.

Personally I play every kit fairly frequently. I tend to favor a few in each class but there are several reasons to not play but one or two characters now if you just play for efficiency and score.

[inversevideo]

 OP honestly I find that I really could care less if I get kicked.  Kickers gotta kcik.

The reasons why are too varied so there is no why we can give.

I got kicked from a lobby last night before I fully joined.  Saw the communicating screen, and when it resolved, I see red,  XXX, you were kicked from the game.  I don't shiv.  It is a PUG.  No reason to want to play with folks who don't want to play with you.  Maybe they did not like my name. Maybe they feel I am a scrub.  Maybe they don't like level 20 batarians with grenade V gear, sucking up all their grenades. Maybe they are making room for a friend.  Who cares?

I've seen a few red X's lately and I leave. I do not have time to waste and why be in a game with someone who does not want to be in a game with you.  Don't care. Other folks to play with.

I would not stress over your choice of character. Play what you want. HFE is one of my favorites but she gets no respect.  But I like so I play from time to time.  

However, I think what several folks have already stated is dead on target; You can improve the offensive capabilities, of the AA, by switching to an ARC Pistol.  




TL;DR - Don't be concerned about kickers, play what you want, TIP - increase AA offensive capabilities by switching to ARC Pistol. Have fun out there!

Modifié par inversevideo, 04 mars 2013 - 03:14 .

[EVILFLUFFMONSTER]

WOW things sure have changed since the beginning! Asari adept was the one class everyone wanted for gold, it dealt with those pesky phantoms that we all hated. Until at least we found out about FB White/Geth/Gold where the Salarian infiltrator and his decoy were king for a while..

Acolyte was the very best thing to have on all biotics when it came out, as half the biotic powers never used to affect shielded enemies. I still think its a great choice as it weighs next to nothing - and for me at least i don't see the point in picking a biotics class if I am not intending on using their powers as a main source of damage, not my weapon. People are obsessed with speed and efficiency, but the only legitimate complaint I have seen is if the rest of the lobby focus on tech powers and its messing up the game for them.

There are more important things than DPS and how quick you finish the match - unless of course you are speed-running with friends, its a game to enjoy, an immersive world to explore.

[MindAssassin]

I think I'll play a lot more with my acolyte asari adept now that I see how pitiful people think she is.

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

MindAssassin wrote...

I think I'll play a lot more with my acolyte asari adept now that I see how pitiful people think she is.

Pitiful isn't the word. There are just more efficient options in terms of damage output against mooks and bosses.