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[o Ventus]

Exactly what does the Catalyst mean by this? I don't mean it in a snarky, douchebag manner. I'm legitimately curious as to what he meant.

[WhiteKnyght]

Essence. Simple as that.

EDI even referred to it in ME2 when explaining the human Reaper

[The Night Mammoth]

Absolutely no idea.

Most likely it's techno babble that's supposed to sound clever and deep.

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 04 mars 2013 - 11:20 .

[o Ventus]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Essence. Simple as that.

EDI even referred to it in ME2 when explaining the human Reaper

"Essence" isn't a thing.

[Starscream723]

One of the reasons I disliked the explanation of the human reaper in ME2 - are they part organic, or what? Do they have squishy bits anywhere?

Just saying "oh yeah, they're machines... but with the harvested essences of the organic species"? It's nonsense.

It's also one of the reasons (the other being that it was my mission all along) that I always choose Destroy. The whole distribution of Shepard's "essence" in the other two endings is too nonsensical for me. I know different people have different standards, but for me that's the point at which my suspension of disbelief fails.

[CosmicGnosis]

I hate this term. It makes no sense. Ieldra has proposed that it probably refers to Shepard's mind. What else could be his "essence"? Still, it's utterly ridiculous. I'm somewhat insulted by the term.

And yet I still like the results of Synthesis. I just loathe the semi-mystical explanation of it. At least Control makes sense in a sci-fi way. That ending becomes more appealing every day.

Modifié par CosmicGnosis, 21 mars 2013 - 07:28 .

[Sideria]

The essence of Shepard is probably simply all data, memory, ideology, thought process of Shepard added into the crucible energy and information. This will help everybody to accept Synthesis ("It is not something that can be forced").

[CosmicGnosis]

Sideria wrote...

The essence of Shepard is probably simply all data, memory, ideology, thought process of Shepard added into the crucible energy and information. This will help everybody to accept Synthesis ("It is not something that can be forced").

Except, you know, that is still forcing Shepard's mind onto everything.

Modifié par CosmicGnosis, 21 mars 2013 - 07:53 .

[Sideria]

Sure. I'm not trying to excuse that part :-)

[S.A.K]

The catalyst was trying to say "Organic juice." But energy sounds better.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

It's simple. It's the space magic that makes it all work.

[MrFob]

It would have been great if Shepard just pulled out one of those throwed it into the beam and walked away.

[Armass81]

a wizard did it.

Modifié par Armass81, 21 mars 2013 - 10:45 .

[InvincibleHero]

Actually the amount of energy potential in the human body is enormous. I think it was a poor choice of wording though.

I think DNA + memory was about the extent of it.

[CaptainCommander]

Javik says DNA is a biological marker and he can read memories and experience from it so I assume that they study Shepard's DNA and do whatever with it. Otherwise Shepard just (blanked) all over the Galaxy!

[Kabooooom]

It smacks of vitalism, and is absolute BS.

[Taboo]

The human body has the power of a few batteries. If taken literally my ancient Gameboy Color could enact Synthesis.

[Rhayak]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Essence.

Pretty please, i just finished Heart of the Swarm and can't hear that word ever again.

please.


Seriously, if we assume that DNA contains even memories, Assassin's Creed-style, then that's what the Crucible taps into, to determine what exactly the green wave infuses in people.

Another flaw in the writing is that Shepard has indeed cybernetic parts. Mass 2 gives a clear idea of how many squishy bits he improves artificially.
But he wasn't born with them. They are not part of his DNA.

Perhaps, by having them for so long, Shepard's body came to "understand" the implants, adapt to them, and that somehow becomes part of Shepard's genetic memory, making his DNA ideal for creating understanding between organics and synthetics.

But that's wild speculation. 

Modifié par Rhayak, 21 mars 2013 - 05:56 .

[Cantable]

Given that Shep isn't a scientist, I reckon that the Catalyst can take a few liberties with definitions in order for him to understand.

[Forst1999]

CaptainCommander wrote...

Javik says DNA is a biological marker and he can read memories and experience from it so I assume that they study Shepard's DNA and do whatever with it. Otherwise Shepard just (blanked) all over the Galaxy!

This. Mass Effect talks alot about DNA saving memories. Not only Javik and his Prothean abilities rely on this, the Reaper construction as shown in ME2 does too. And I don't know how Asari gaining traits of non-Asari parents would work otherwise, so it's there since ME1 (incorporating actual alien genetic information doesn't seem likely to produce something that's able to live, but my Biology classes are a few years ago, so correct me if I'm wrong). Scientificly, the concept seem dubious to me, but that's just how the Me universe works.
Though I have to admit, I have no idea why Sehpards essence is even needed for Synthesis.

[Xellith]

Cantable wrote...

Given that Shep isn't a scientist, I reckon that the Catalyst can take a few liberties with definitions in order for him to understand.

And look how that turned out.  Most people on the BSN arnt scientists, but we are left scratching our heads saying "lolwut?"  The catalyst seems to be pulling random words out of his dictionary to describe things.   To which I say to the catalyst "I dont think that word means what you think it means..."

Modifié par Xellith, 21 mars 2013 - 05:57 .

[Steelcan]

He means Shepard's soul energy.

[Xellith]

Steelcan wrote...

He means Shepard's soul energy.

Can of worms.  Im not biting.

[Dr_Extrem]

essence .. like "light ether" .. or a mythical plane were our soul lives?

its pseudo scientific bs that is more akin to astrology, crystals and fortune telling than to genetics.

mysticism .. *gag*