Enhanced wrote...
"....the essence of who and what you are, will be broken down and dispersed"
Is it really that hard to understand? When Shepard asks for details, the Catalyst explains Synthesis fairly well.
o Ventus wrote...
Enhanced wrote...
Sure. The Crucible was designed based on Reaper tech.
How do you know?
o Ventus wrote...
Enhanced wrote...
"....the essence of who and what you are, will be broken down and dispersed"
Is it really that hard to understand? When Shepard asks for details, the Catalyst explains Synthesis fairly well.
Not sure if srs.
like, I srsly am not sure if you're srs.
Modifié par Enhanced, 05 avril 2013 - 04:46 .
Enhanced wrote...
o Ventus wrote...
Enhanced wrote...
Sure. The Crucible was designed based on Reaper tech.
How do you know?
Obviously, it is. Also, the codex entry says it is : "The Mars Archives describe a superweapon that the Alliance has named the Crucible, which exploits the technology of mass effect relays."
Auintus wrote...
Enhanced wrote...
o Ventus wrote...
Enhanced wrote...
Sure. The Crucible was designed based on Reaper tech.
How do you know?
Obviously, it is. Also, the codex entry says it is : "The Mars Archives describe a superweapon that the Alliance has named the Crucible, which exploits the technology of mass effect relays."
Not quite. It was made to interact with and utilize Reaper tech. It is not Reaper tech itself.
Auintus wrote...
Enhanced wrote...
o Ventus wrote...
Enhanced wrote...
Sure. The Crucible was designed based on Reaper tech.
How do you know?
Obviously, it is. Also, the codex entry says it is : "The Mars Archives describe a superweapon that the Alliance has named the Crucible, which exploits the technology of mass effect relays."
Not quite. It was made to interact with and utilize Reaper tech. It is not Reaper tech itself.
Subject M wrote...
Well, according to my "source" you are quite right.
The crucible is not reaper tech, but it is designed to work with and intergrate with it
You see, I asked if the crucible was mainly designed to target synthetics by connecting with the citadel (via the catalyst) because it was the only way to direct, handle and focus the energy necessary for destroying the reapers. The answer was positive. The catalyst was known to some earlier civilizations as the "operating system" of the citadel (I guess the catalyst fooled them in a similar way that EDI fooled Traynor and the others that she was a VI) and was thus incorporated to the design of the crucible. But connecting the crucible to the catalyst also opened up for the catalyst to use the crucible itself, but it required an organic like Shepard to take his and her place in the new solution. It either needed Shepard's mind to provide new relevant input and understanding (control), or do dissolve and distribute it, along with Shepard's body(synthesis).
That is why it saved Shepard, it saw a possibility to possibly solve the problem it was made to solve.
Modifié par Auintus, 05 avril 2013 - 05:24 .
No they are not. The EC additions just give more pseudoscientific twaddle that means absolutely sweet FA. They are in no way, shape, or form explanations and the words used are worse than random technobabble because they demonstrate a shocking ignorance of the meaning of those words.Enhanced wrote...
o Ventus wrote...
Enhanced wrote...
"....the essence of who and what you are, will be broken down and dispersed"
Is it really that hard to understand? When Shepard asks for details, the Catalyst explains Synthesis fairly well.
Not sure if srs.
like, I srsly am not sure if you're srs.
Yes. Most of these types of questions about synthesis are answered in the addtional extended cut dialogues.
The hard-to-understand (read: nonsensical) part is this: how the hell can such a thing shape Synthesis? Where in Shepard is any kind of information which could influence the Synthesis? This is a completely arbitrary connection, made for the sole reason that someone wanted "sacrifice" with no regard at all for grounding story elements in in-world logic. The only way I can make sense of it is if Shepard's thoughts about the Synthesis shape what it will be - and no sacrifice would be needed for that.Enhanced wrote...
"....the essence of who and what you are, will be broken down and dispersed"
Is it really that hard to understand? When Shepard asks for details, the Catalyst explains Synthesis fairly well.
If it can provide Shepard an I/O channel, it ought to be able to copy and store Shepard, if anything can. (Like a mysterious beam of light with no known properties other than dissolving meat and bone into plasma.)Reorte wrote...
I figured that that was still Shepard's normal brain doing the thinking there but the pod had some means of getting the information directly to and from it (like some sort of ultra-advanced virtual reality thingy).
Enhanced wrote...
Yes. Most of these types of questions about synthesis are answered in the addtional extended cut dialogues.
Modifié par o Ventus, 05 avril 2013 - 10:02 .
Troxa wrote...
My point is that it's complete BSHYR 2.0 wrote...
Troxa wrote...
LOL...HYR 2.0 wrote...
My answer to this in Sync-Compendium is E = mc^2.
Energy is mass * a catalyst for conversion (to energy).
Organic energy = Shepard's body into the current running through the Crucible.
We are made from the same stuff a rock is made of stardust & dust, if we make that to energy again it would only become normal energy
there isn't any organic energy
You make NO point!
everything we are made of & what we need comes from stars
energy=matter
matter=energy
Origin of life
www.hsc.on.ca/moffatt/bio3a/cellbio/biomol.htm
www.youtube.com/watch
"Why are you here?” Kahlee asked. “What do you want from us?”
She wasn’t sure if the Reapers would even reply. All she was hoping for was that she might be able to engage the Reapers enough to give Grayson a fighting chance. A fighting chance to do what, however, she couldn’t say.
“We seek salvation,” Grayson said, much to her surprise. “Ours and yours.”
“Salvation? Is that what the Collectors were doing? Saving those human colonists? Is that what you did to Grayson?”
“He has been repurposed. He has evolved into something greater than a random assortment of cells and organic refuse.”
“That randomness is what made him unique,” Kahlee countered. “It made him special.”
She noticed that their pace had become more measured and deliberate. If Grayson was still inside there, if he had any influence at all, he was using it to slow the Reapers down. He was trying to buy her time to escape. The best thing she could do was try to keep them talking.
“Why can’t you just leave us alone? Why can’t you just let us live our lives in peace?”
“We are the keepers of the cycle. The creators and the destroyers. Your existence is a flicker, a spark. We can extinguish it—or we can preserve it. Submit to us and we can make you immortal.”
“I don’t want to be immortal,” she said. “I just want to be me.”
They were barely moving at all now. Grayson had managed to bring their hurried escape from the Academy down to a crawl.
“Organic life lives, dies, and is forgotten. You cannot fully comprehend anything beyond this. Yet there is a realm of existence beyond your understanding.”
There was something odd about the things Grayson was saying. She knew he was speaking on behalf of the Reapers, but it seemed like he—or they—actually wanted her to understand their position. It was like they were trying to persuade her to agree with them, but they didn’t know how to frame their arguments in a way she could relate to. Or maybe there simply was no way for organic beings to relate to hyperintelligent machines.
“We are the pinnacle of evolution,” they continued. “Yet we see potential in your species. You can be elevated. The weakness of organic flesh can be cast aside. You can transcend yourselves.”
The words didn’t really make any kind of compelling argument, but she felt as if there was some deeper meaning to them.
“Your understanding is limited by genetics. You cannot see beyond the brief instant of your own existence. Yet our knowledge is infinite, as are we.”
The more Grayson spoke, the more his words seemed to make sense on a deep, almost subconscious level.
“The laws of this universe are inviolate. Immutable. Your resistance will only lead to your extinction. What are—what we do—is inevitable.”
Kahlee was so far under the Reapers’s spell, she wasn’t even aware she was nodding along in agreement.
Modifié par Bill Casey, 05 avril 2013 - 10:16 .
HYR 2.0 wrote...
LOL @ you.
o Ventus wrote...
HYR 2.0 wrote...
LOL @ you.
What an intelligent and well thought out counter argument.
HYR 2.0 wrote...
My answer to this in Sync-Compendium is E = mc^2.
Energy is mass * a catalyst for conversion (to energy).
Organic energy = Shepard's body into the current running through the Crucible.
Modifié par CosmicGnosis, 03 août 2013 - 12:33 .
Or not even Anderson...what if Major Coats or James or somebody had been "the first to make it this far"? Would he get the same Chosen One choices as Shepard?CosmicGnosis wrote...
What would have happened if Anderson had jumped into the beam?
What if Harby had gotten there fifty seconds later, and half of a company of soldiers got through?zed888 wrote...
Or not even Anderson...what if Major Coats or James or somebody had been "the first to make it this far"? Would he get the same Chosen One choices as Shepard?CosmicGnosis wrote...
What would have happened if Anderson had jumped into the beam?
CosmicGnosis wrote...
HYR 2.0 wrote...
My answer to this in Sync-Compendium is E = mc^2.
Energy is mass * a catalyst for conversion (to energy).
Organic energy = Shepard's body into the current running through the Crucible.
What would have happened if Anderson had jumped into the beam?
DeinonSlayer wrote...
What if Harby had gotten there fifty seconds later, and half of a company of soldiers got through?zed888 wrote...
Or not even Anderson...what if Major Coats or James or somebody had been "the first to make it this far"? Would he get the same Chosen One choices as Shepard?CosmicGnosis wrote...
What would have happened if Anderson had jumped into the beam?
Or better yet...
:innocent:
He could have pulled one of these on Kai Leng while he was at it:Steelcan wrote...
@Deinon, it would have been very awkward for TIM
DeinonSlayer wrote...
He could have pulled one of these on Kai Leng while he was at it:Steelcan wrote...
@Deinon, it would have been very awkward for TIM
*snip the epic .gif*
Glorious...
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