"Organic energy"
#176
Posté 03 août 2013 - 02:00
#177
Posté 03 août 2013 - 02:00
Modifié par David7204, 03 août 2013 - 02:01 .
#178
Posté 03 août 2013 - 02:01
#179
Posté 03 août 2013 - 02:02
#180
Posté 03 août 2013 - 02:02
A human brain deprived of oxygen WILL decompose to a point where recovery of memory is impossible and restoration of function is impossible, not because of some "special spark" or "vitalism" but biology, well technically organic chemistry.David7204 wrote...
I find it rather irritating that so many people (rightfully) complain about Synthesis but then go right on and complain about Lazarus using basically the same points they whine about Synthesis using - Vitalism. It's a human brain, not a machine. It's special. You can't restore function to it or replicate pieces of it, because it has a special spark that other matter doesn't.
Modifié par Steelcan, 03 août 2013 - 02:04 .
#181
Posté 03 août 2013 - 02:03
DeinonSlayer wrote...
For the love of all that is holy, David, let's NOT start THAT debate again...
The cycle cannot be broken.
#182
Posté 03 août 2013 - 02:04
#183
Posté 03 août 2013 - 02:05
The timeline for the brain is amatter of minutesDavid7204 wrote...
Pretty much everything 'decomposes' on a long enough timeline.
#184
Posté 03 août 2013 - 02:07
#185
Posté 03 août 2013 - 02:07
#186
Posté 03 août 2013 - 02:08
Just like evolution is hogwash and heliocentrism heresy?David7204 wrote...
These conversations could actually go somewhere if you and people like you weren't so insistent on posting information that obviously has no basis.
#187
Posté 03 août 2013 - 02:08
David7204 wrote...
Pretty much everything 'decomposes' on a long enough timeline.
David Bowie made a pact with Satan so this won't happen.
#188
Posté 03 août 2013 - 02:10
#189
Posté 03 août 2013 - 02:12
#190
Posté 03 août 2013 - 02:16
David7204 wrote...
Also, if you could stop making crazy and totally ridiculous conclusions. Like saying "I guess you hate role playing" when I talk about class interrupts. Or saying I "totally changed my argument" because I replaced literally one word with a synonym.
now you are changing the subject.
Or as a friend so eloquently puts it, "moving the goalposts"
#191
Posté 03 août 2013 - 05:26
Modifié par noobcannon, 03 août 2013 - 05:31 .
#192
Posté 03 août 2013 - 05:17
KaiserShep wrote...
David7204 wrote...
Pretty much everything 'decomposes' on a long enough timeline.
David Bowie made a pact with Satan so this won't happen.
So did Christopher Lee, apparently.
#193
Posté 03 août 2013 - 05:23
Oh I already replied on page 3.
Modifié par Robosexual, 03 août 2013 - 05:26 .
#194
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Posté 03 août 2013 - 05:26
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#195
Posté 03 août 2013 - 05:33
iakus wrote...
Plus there are two cooling corpses right below...
"Okay Illusive Man, you wanted to control the Reapers? Wish granted!"
Plus Shepard is bleeding. If a DNA sample is all that's needed...
These endings really weren't thought out very well at all.
Bioware doesn't understand science. Just look at Quarian "biology". Or what they think AI is (Spock hivemind, apparently).
#196
Posté 03 août 2013 - 05:37
In Exile wrote...
Bioware doesn't understand science. Just look at Quarian "biology". Or what they think AI is (Spock hivemind, apparently).
Aside from the Dextro-based DNA, what's wrong with quarian physiology?
By "hive mind", I assume you mean the geth. The geth aren't AIs.
#197
Posté 03 août 2013 - 05:50
The "having to be in suits even on their own ships" doesn't really make a great deal of sense, not does the description of how they get ill so easily (although that came from Tali who admitted she doesn't really understand it properly).o Ventus wrote...
In Exile wrote...
Bioware doesn't understand science. Just look at Quarian "biology". Or what they think AI is (Spock hivemind, apparently).
Aside from the Dextro-based DNA, what's wrong with quarian physiology?
By "hive mind", I assume you mean the geth. The geth aren't AIs.
Don't see what's wrong with the geth.
#198
Posté 03 août 2013 - 06:00
o Ventus wrote...
Aside from the Dextro-based DNA, what's wrong with quarian physiology?
Immunlogy doesn't work that way. First, we're told they have no functional immune systems, and their suits are a method of quarantine. Next, we're told that they do have functional immunes systems, because they apparently are actually hyper-alergic to everything. With her as an LI, we're told that Tali is taking antibiotics to boost her immune system (antibiotics do not do that).
By "hive mind", I assume you mean the geth. The geth aren't AIs.
By any sensible IRL standard, Geth are AI (so is Avina). In fact, comically, creating something like Avina would be considered the greatest breakthrough in AI research of all time. While Bioware may have wanted to write her as an input/output machine, the kind of reasoning she engages in is pure AI.
Edit:
As for what's wrong with the geth, despite the Stark Trek idea of Spock, emotions are actually fundamental to a great deal of reasonign that we engage in. Things like "getting the Geth to not stand around and decay" would require effectively replicating core emotions like fear.
Modifié par In Exile, 03 août 2013 - 06:01 .
#199
Posté 03 août 2013 - 06:03
#200
Posté 03 août 2013 - 06:22
In Exile wrote...
As for what's wrong with the geth, despite the Stark Trek idea of Spock, emotions are actually fundamental to a great deal of reasonign that we engage in. Things like "getting the Geth to not stand around and decay" would require effectively replicating core emotions like fear.
That's not true. You don't need to fear death to realise it's illogical to let yourself break down if you wish to continue.





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