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[RilantheFirebug]

Then don't buy it? Wait for it to eventually go on sale (year+ from now)?

[Kondorr]

I think there never was a sale on DLCs... but meeen... this one is worth it...

I believe in Harvey De...

eee...

I believe in the Citadel DLC

[squee365]

RilantheFirebug wrote...

Then don't buy it? Wait for it to eventually go on sale (year+ from now)?

Except that won't happen. ME2's DLCs are still the same price. 

[SimonTheFrog]

I can see OP's point that BioWare is really not giving out solid information about what we can expect for our 15$.

But that's their strategy.

I have to agree this time that it's BioWare decision to put a ridiculous price on the DLC if that's what they think is the clever thing to do.
And it's also their decision to not give out information on the content other than vague "it's awesome and it contains characters from the trilogy".

They offer and we decide whether we want or not.

[Zuzu Mumu]

squee365 wrote...

RilantheFirebug wrote...

Then don't buy it? Wait for it to eventually go on sale (year+ from now)?

Except that won't happen. ME2's DLCs are still the same price. 

exactly

[TheRealJayDee]

Siran wrote...

TheRealJayDee wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

If you don't think so, LOL, then don't.

No one is LOL forcing you to buy it. It is optional content for those who want it. LOL. Some LOL people will see it as somethign they LOL want. If you LOL don't, then don't buy it and use the $15 for a nice lunch, put towards some other cool game or DLC or just use it for teh LOLs.

Joker venom?

He is making fun of the immature and incoherent way the OP stated his rant.

Hm, you may have a point. Then again... I still kinda believe Evil Chris looks something like this now:

[Cainne Chapel]

Zuzu Mumu wrote...

Demonhoopa wrote...

Considering that all multiplayer content has been free, I'm not complaining

Many people never once played multiplayed and they still won't , multiplayer is no excuse for singleplayer dlc.
Simply because they are patching multiplayer to keep the game alive and no other reason. 
And the proof to that is that most of what you get in multiplayer has nothing to do with singleplayer. At the end of the day ME3 multiplayer is just another shooter. How much can you do about a shooter? Take Borderlands for example , it has 1000000000 weapons , but who cares it's just a shooter. The multiplayer content is free and a LOT of people all ready stated they wouldn't have paid for any MP content anyway even if they charged for it. 
I played Mass Effect trilogy for years , currently im 2000+ hours total played but do you want to know how much multiplayer i have played? 5-6 hours , and that was only to upgrade a single class in order to bring it in singleplayer galaxy war map for 75 resources that's all. A shooter is nothing but a shooter no matter how many dlcs and add ons and multipacks and expansions you add.

and yet Borderlands and other shooters sell tons because people like them... strange that huh?

The answer is simple, you dont like the price? Dont buy the DLC, its just an extra, nothing more, nothing less, nothing to get worked up over if its not worth it to you.  No sense in arguing the matter.  Makes about as much sense as arguing over the price of new games now a days (never mind the fact that games as a whole have maintained more or less the same price over the last 25 years, taking into account inflation and what not)

[Bizantura]

Like you I put a lot of hours in the game since ME1 got out. I have played I few games until the end but always return back to the ME series.

Steam is easy and there sales always tantalising. I counted 39 games, played 5 games on there until the end. To be honest I wasted more money on buying games I though might be good and interesting.

So for a trilogy I still put many hours in en enjoy immensely I allready had my moneys worth. Personally I found that seeing a dlc played on youtube or playing it yourself is not the same, playing it yourself sucks you differently into the game so the experience is more satisfying.

For me Omega dlc was worth every penny for story aswell gameplay.

The pricing of dlc's compared to the whole game is indeed often more costly and the addons of yesterday where a better deal. But I rather buy a Bioware product I have 80% chance of liking then a full game for the same price I will only play for 15 minutes and sit in nice portofolio to stare at.

[PSUHammer]

Holy whining, Batman.

[wolfsite]

Kondorr wrote...

I think there never was a sale on DLCs... but meeen... this one is worth it...

I believe in Harvey De...

eee...

I believe in the Citadel DLC

Actaully they just had a Dead Space  sale which included all games and DLC/Microtransaction items on Origin so they do indeed have sales on it.

[Derp88]

Zuzu Mumu wrote...

squee365 wrote...

RilantheFirebug wrote...

Then don't buy it? Wait for it to eventually go on sale (year+ from now)?

Except that won't happen. ME2's DLCs are still the same price. 

exactly

I belive they do have sales on DLCs from time to time. I remember most of the ME2 DLCs being 50% off at one point. You must have missed it.

[lady_v23]

Zuzu Mumu wrote...

I just lol-ed at the price , the whole game , Mass Effect 3 cost 18-20$ Brand New and Sealed. 
And this DLC 15$ ? I don't think so LOL .
EA must be nuts.

I am concerned and quite honestly very worried about this dlc , mainly because we don't have enough information about it. Since the last big DLC Omega , where everyone got pretty much less than they expected (and that is putting it mildly can you blame me?

I am a customer and i have the right to argue the quality and the content of what i am expected to pay for , so , ->
This is not a post complaining about the price. This is a post that asks a simple question and that is , why is this dlc worth 15$ ? Because Omega sure wasn't , and all the reviews stand as proof to that. 
By the way , i own everything on the market related Mass Effect universe , from all the games and all their dlc on all possible platforms including Android , also books , audio books , magazines , soundtracks , figurines , posters , clothing , most of them limited edition. I am a huge collector and very few people have spent 2000+ hours playing the trilogy as i have. So spare me the brainless comment "hey if you can't afford it don't buy it , if it costs too much for you" because that's evidently not the case. Arguing the quality or a product is no way in hell the same as saying it costs too much for you. I shouldn't even be telling you this but since you completely missed the point , here , i actually went and explained it to you. 

Asch Lavigne wrote...

You are just now becoming aware of this?

Given the content most people seem ok with the price, as opposed to Omega.

Yeah but the problem is we don't really know what the content is?
what if the whole DLC is 4 hours long and out of that you get 90 minutes of conversations , transitions and movies playback?

It's not like they said anything about the length or what exactly we will be getting.
They didn't say "hey u will get all the characters from me1 and me2 and team up with them as in get them as squad mates in missions" or "you get to romance anyone any time and cheat on your romance twice a day" either , or "you get to train virtually and work on those abs and those cheeks" or "make prank calls to your team and play the comedian for a while"


also :

devSin wrote...

Yup. Sign of the times.

Not much to be done for it. If you're not sure you'll get your money's worth, I'd recommend waiting for reviews and user comments before deciding to purchase Citadel.

I am not sure i want to do that any more , some people gave big time spoilers in the "No Spoilers" section , about the game play , story and the ending of Omega which put me right off buying it. I never bought it because i knew everything that was ever going on in Omega dlc from one single sentence those no brainer posted on forum that ruined my whole day. Was so excited about it but ended up not buying that dlc.

and : 

MonkeySeeker wrote...

So what, you expected them to put all the work in on it, pay all the voice actor cast to come back for it and charge a fee based on the reduced price you paid for the base game?

It is a 4GB download compared to the <2GB downloads of previous DLC, it's safe to say it's going to have more content than previous DLC.

What are you talking about dear? Previous DLC was Reckoning and it was 198 Megabytes.
Also , since you want to go there , yes , if 50 hours of voice acting cost 18-20$ , then why would 4-6 hours cost 15$?

finally :

rdnanez wrote...

Stop being such a cheap ass. $15 is nothing to me and will gladly give it to bioware

I spent thousands of dollars on games and dlc's so far. You should see my Steam account worth 2300$ or better yet my PSN account. Or my physical collection of games. Cheap ass you say? Again , I call it my right as a customer to argue the quality and content of what im expected to pay for.

thank you for speaking what i was thinking :

XyleJKH wrote...

Stop being so condescending priestly. this guy has every right to be concerned. BioWare didn't address the ending, which a majority of the fans hated and felt betrayed (myself)
Maybe this dlc will be good, but the track record of the way things have been going is a sign of the quality we can expect
To me it's not worth it when all roads lead to the atrocious endings Casey Hudson created

P.S

Nobody gives a damn the dlc is 4GB , you want to know why? Because there's alot of "crap" that can reside in 4GB. 
Not saying there is "crap" in Mass Effect related content but there is potential for filling large amounts of data with not so good content. Here's an example, Divine Divinity , is a game that is much worse than diablo 1 and it has 4 gb so don't give me this "omg is 4 gb" ok? Even Rayman games are 4 gb and they are platformers for kids that you can complete in 2 hrs. Size of the data is completely irrelevant , especially here simply for the fact that from all that 4 GB , 3 of them is audio data recorded for characters. I can give you a ton of examples of how much nonsense you can fit in 4GB worth of data and most of them cost one or two bucks , because when you sell 1 million products worth 1$ you still end up with the amazing 1 million dollars. Price is never a barrier no matter how low because you will not sell 10 products , most likely hundreds of thousands or more.

Just Don't buy it.  Simple.  You complaining about the price will help in...? or change what..?

[Capt. Pancake]

ho hum, more useless rhetoric

[Tim Skijwalker]

you don't have to buy it.

i would get it anyways cause im a stupid silly fanboy 

[xlI ReFLeX lIx]

Chris Priestly wrote...

If you don't think so, LOL, then don't.

No one is LOL forcing you to buy it. It is optional content for those who want it. LOL. Some LOL people will see it as somethign they LOL want. If you LOL don't, then don't buy it and use the $15 for a nice lunch, put towards some other cool game or DLC or just use it for teh LOLs.

best post ever

[hwf]

The DLC preview video was very interesting.
It'll probably sell as well a Shadowbroker if not better.

Thumbs up for Priestly's post by the way!

[KainrycKarr]

Chris Priestly wrote...

If you don't think so, LOL, then don't.

No one is LOL forcing you to buy it. It is optional content for those who want it. LOL. Some LOL people will see it as somethign they LOL want. If you LOL don't, then don't buy it and use the $15 for a nice lunch, put towards some other cool game or DLC or just use it for teh LOLs.

This is my favorite thing, right here.

[Bfler]

The "don't buy it"- argument to a person, who claims to own all the ME stuff is like saying to a junkie, that he doesn't have to buy the next injection.

[Cloaking_Thane]

Who would buy it for $25? $30? $35? $40?

I see folks throwing around things that are tantamount to "lol you're poor".

I'm not poor and do set aside part of my disposible income for gaming. I'll be buying a new console this year for example.

Sure from a BW perspective cost and production values have increased, but make no mistake the DLC price increases are profit margin driven moreso than simply paying for devs salaries (which is implied in chris's post)

Sure they are a business, but it's not particularly consumer friendly.

I'm genuinely curious at what price point others would be like...no, because to me we are rapidly approaching that even for a 3-4 hr dlc with presumed replay value.

There are also other companies that release large scale DLC for free, presumably their costs have increase consistently along with biowares.

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Actually its quite valid. you've even stated that $40 is too much for you, i imagine it's lower than that.

Inflation hasn't increased by super amounts in the past 5 years (thanks big banks failing!), but this DLC increase represents a full 50% mark up from LOTSB (2011? I forget) if I'm not mistaken, aka much more than simple salary and or dev costs etc.

If you don't envision the next logical step creeping towards $20+ for what amounts to the same content you're mistaken.

The "don't like it don't buy it" argument is naturally flawed, of course I will make up my own mind, I find pedantic to the nth degree.

We as consumers would like to purchase the content at a reasonable price, other companies produce content on par with BW DLC and release it for free. As long as that large schism remains, you better believe other factors are at play.

Was Omega worth $15? based on numerous reviews I read it wasn't, it wasn't quality at all and humourously glitchy, yet many people paid the price of admission for it.

Everyone does have a micro limit, but that doesn't excuse the practice of gouging on a macro level. There are several laws against such practices, granted they are usually essential goods and not luxury items, but the principle is the same.
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I'll just repost in this thread as well. Because I do believe $15 is too high

[BAOBAB_AOTEAROA]

KainrycKarr wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

If you don't think so, LOL, then don't.

No one is LOL forcing you to buy it. It is optional content for those who want it. LOL. Some LOL people will see it as somethign they LOL want. If you LOL don't, then don't buy it and use the $15 for a nice lunch, put towards some other cool game or DLC or just use it for teh LOLs.

This is my favorite thing, right here.

I find the answer of Chris quite rude actually.

The OP made his thoughts clear in a precise and rational manner, no offending was involved.
Chris on the other hand was not professional at all and he mocked his customer.
I hope the DLC is made more professionally. 

[MuhidinSaid]

Let's face it, pretty much all of the mass effect 3 dlc should've been included in the main game, bioware and ea are just greedy and care more about making money than they do bringing out quality content, Chris's reply to the OP just reinforces this. If anything the generally crappy game that is me3 will just force more players to buy dlc in the hopes that their beloved franchise will be redeemed, case in point why Leviathian killed it in sales.

Don't expect any apologetic attitudes from the devs here, I think the vast majority of players think the dlc is overpriced, and the price should be lowered.

The problem is that bioware knows no matter how expensive the dlc is, they know the average mass effect fan will shrug their shoulders and buy it anyway, that's consumerism.

I'm not prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt as I thought Omega was very overpriced and From Ashes should've been included in the main game, that being said, I'll still buy the dlc.

But I will make a big stink about the price and grill bioware for it, deal with it.

Modifié par MuhidinSaid, 05 mars 2013 - 05:32 .

[MuhidinSaid]

BAOBAB_AOTEAROA wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

If you don't think so, LOL, then don't.

No one is LOL forcing you to buy it. It is optional content for those who want it. LOL. Some LOL people will see it as somethign they LOL want. If you LOL don't, then don't buy it and use the $15 for a nice lunch, put towards some other cool game or DLC or just use it for teh LOLs.

This is my favorite thing, right here.

I find the answer of Chris quite rude actually.

The OP made his thoughts clear in a precise and rational manner, no offending was involved.
Chris on the other hand was not professional at all and he mocked his customer.
I hope the DLC is made more professionally. 

Well said, his reply was predictable and unprofessional, but it's no secret here that the moderators on here jump down the throats of anyone who dares to criticize mass effect, dlc or otherwise.

[MuhidinSaid]

SimonTheFrog wrote...

I can see OP's point that BioWare is really not giving out solid information about what we can expect for our 15$.

But that's their strategy.

I have to agree this time that it's BioWare decision to put a ridiculous price on the DLC if that's what they think is the clever thing to do.
And it's also their decision to not give out information on the content other than vague "it's awesome and it contains characters from the trilogy".

They offer and we decide whether we want or not.

They know we'll buy it, mass effect is essentially the crack of video games, hence the dlcs getting a higher price every time.

[MuhidinSaid]

Demonhoopa wrote...

Considering that all multiplayer content has been free, I'm not complaining

Lol, what a poor analogy, multiplayer dlc mostly consists of new characters, maps refurbished from single-player, powers and weapons, why the hell shouldn't it be free? Bioware just doesn't want to split the player base.

If the multiplayer dlcs came with new game modes, I would probably consider buying it, but not simply for new characters.

[hau101]

Chris Priestly wrote...

If you don't think so, LOL, then don't.

No one is LOL forcing you to buy it. It is optional content for those who want it. LOL. Some LOL people will see it as somethign they LOL want. If you LOL don't, then don't buy it and use the $15 for a nice lunch, put towards some other cool game or DLC or just use it for teh LOLs.

A fitting response to OP, I guess. OP, if you want to express your genuine criticism of price, you'd refrain from LOL'ing and ridiculing Bioware like that. Cuz you know, the above is what you'll get and how you come off as.

In the same sense, you might as well complain about $200 jeans, $8 coffee, $15 movie tickets, $15 Mordin figure that's painted horribly, etc. In the end, best you can do is wait for reviews or not buy if if you think it's too much. Otherwise complaining just makes you sound like some cheap douche (don't care if you spent XXX amount already). If it's really too expensive for the market, it'll likely come down in price later. Like how the trilogy goes for $60..