You know mages really get screwed! Yes yes, I know....we'ere uber powerful. Yes yes I know....arcane warriors can wade amongst mass carnage eating a snickers and playing poker and still not get hit.
I get it...
No really.
But wtf I save the world as a male or female, then I should rule! Not Anora and her wanna be princess Lea hair do. Alistair is fine but not without me...or by myself.
Its a conspiracy. and wrong. /sniffle (thanks Dragon age writers! - dont expect a Christmas gift from me)
I'm a human mage and I should be King/Queen!
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Posté 12 janvier 2010 - 04:06
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Is anyone really surprised? My mage character overheard a gossip dialogue somewhere early in the game, maybe Lothering, where the rabble was saying all mages should be eliminated. Made her feel really good about saving their damn hides.
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Posté 12 janvier 2010 - 04:09
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lol I think of it as most Fereldens think mages are too powerful and should not be in positions of power. I thought that you could be Alistair's Chancellor and rule in his place while he's gone, but that might be another origin.
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Posté 12 janvier 2010 - 04:10
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The elves and the mages should unite against the intolerant, oppressive bureaucracy of Ferelden!
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Posté 12 janvier 2010 - 04:11
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Eruanna Guerrein wrote...
The elves and the mages should unite against the intolerant, oppressive bureaucracy of Ferelden!
Count me in!
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Posté 12 janvier 2010 - 04:14
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No. Mages belong at the side of the throne, pulling the strings.
Don't harden Alistair, make him king, and when he asks for you to help him agree. mwahahaha
Don't harden Alistair, make him king, and when he asks for you to help him agree. mwahahaha
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Posté 12 janvier 2010 - 04:16
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Mages actually relinquish the right to bear a title in Ferelden. The fact that a male mage cannot become king (actually prince consort, you can never become "king") is actually very consistent with Anora's character. She would never "change the rules" to marry someone that's not of noble birth. Despite her father not having been a noble for his whole life, she has lived her whole life as such, and she has a very political mind.
She knows that her blood isn't as noble as it could be, and marrying a commoner would weaken it further in the eyes of the most conservative Banns.
On the other hand, female mages CAN become queen. Alistair has the blood of the royal line, so he can afford marrying a commoner, moreover, character-wise, he couldn't care less about nobility.
So yes, while it's not "fair", it's realistic and consistent with the characters. And that makes it good. Fairness and equal rights don't belong to a medieval world.
She knows that her blood isn't as noble as it could be, and marrying a commoner would weaken it further in the eyes of the most conservative Banns.
On the other hand, female mages CAN become queen. Alistair has the blood of the royal line, so he can afford marrying a commoner, moreover, character-wise, he couldn't care less about nobility.
So yes, while it's not "fair", it's realistic and consistent with the characters. And that makes it good. Fairness and equal rights don't belong to a medieval world.
Modifié par Abriael_CG, 12 janvier 2010 - 04:17 .
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Posté 12 janvier 2010 - 04:17
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Yet Anora is not of noble birth...doesn't matter how she lived her life. Her father was a commoner and I understand her mother was the daughter of a cabinet maker. If she still thinks she's somehow greater than anyone else, it's all the more reason to splatter her father's blood on her face and lock her up in the tower.
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Posté 12 janvier 2010 - 04:20
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Abriael_CG wrote...
On the other hand, female mages CAN become queen. Alistair has the blood of the royal line, so he can afford marrying a commoner, moreover, character-wise, he couldn't care less about nobility.
So yes, while it's not "fair", it's realistic and consistent with the characters. And that makes it good. Fairness and equal rights don't belong to a medieval world.
Eh, actually, if you're anything but a female human noble the best you can hope for, if Alistair is king, is to be his mistress. He will talk to you after the Landsmeet if you make him king and say he has to break it off with you for the good of Ferelden because 1. You're not a noble and 2. he needs to make babies.
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Posté 12 janvier 2010 - 04:21
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Eruanna Guerrein wrote...
Yet Anora is not of noble birth...
Actually no. Anora is not of noble blood, but she's of noble birth. She's born when his father was already Theyrn and she has been raised and educated as a noble.
Her political and practical mind tells her very clearly that marrying a noble would strenghten her blood and line, appealing the most conservative nobles and strenghtening the right of her future sons to rule. Marrying a commoner would severely jeopartdize the authority of her descendants.
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Posté 12 janvier 2010 - 04:23
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Who cares about Anora or Alistair? There should be an option to put my own self on the throne as a queen without any of them. And then off with their heads. Both.
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Posté 12 janvier 2010 - 04:24
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OnionXI wrote...
Eh, actually, if you're anything but a female human noble the best you can hope for, if Alistair is king, is to be his mistress. He will talk to you after the Landsmeet if you make him king and say he has to break it off with you for the good of Ferelden because 1. You're not a noble and 2. he needs to make babies.
Gotcha. I had read in a few sources that being noble wasn't required. But yeah, what said above still kinda does. Ferelden is a feudal country, and the power of noble blood is very important to keep the litigious banns united. That's why you need to be noble to become queen/prince consort.
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Posté 12 janvier 2010 - 04:28
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Defect to the Tevinter Imperium! They let even let mages in the top position in the Chantry XD
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Posté 12 janvier 2010 - 04:34
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Cybercat999 wrote...
Who cares about Anora or Alistair? There should be an option to put my own self on the throne as a queen without any of them. And then off with their heads. Both.
I actually like this idea a lot lol
I wouldn't kill them, well, maybe just Anora, but I'd let Alistair hang out with me.
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Posté 12 janvier 2010 - 04:56
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Oi that would mess up the royal line, Anora might not be of royal blood but she married one who were, which makes her a queen, no matter if the king is dead or if there is no heir. Plus we gotta remember that when she married Calian her father was a hero, so she has a good bloodline, a noble human I suppose you can say.
Alistair is of royal blood (not 100% tho) so that means that he can claim the throne. Since the royal blood runs through his veins.
And then we have the PC, noble or not, there is no royal blood in you and you haven't married a king. If you are noble (just like Anora) you can marry Alistair (or Anora if you are a male noble)
But if you are not a noble, and can just take the throne, then anyone in the game can take the throne. Wynne, Loghain, Sten, Morrigan, and so on, because they helped saving Ferelden too. Or perhaps a poor begger could take the throne?
All in all I am quite happy how it works, would be weird if you could just claim the throne for yourself. Just doesn't seem right. But that is my opinion.
Alistair is of royal blood (not 100% tho) so that means that he can claim the throne. Since the royal blood runs through his veins.
And then we have the PC, noble or not, there is no royal blood in you and you haven't married a king. If you are noble (just like Anora) you can marry Alistair (or Anora if you are a male noble)
But if you are not a noble, and can just take the throne, then anyone in the game can take the throne. Wynne, Loghain, Sten, Morrigan, and so on, because they helped saving Ferelden too. Or perhaps a poor begger could take the throne?
All in all I am quite happy how it works, would be weird if you could just claim the throne for yourself. Just doesn't seem right. But that is my opinion.
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Posté 12 janvier 2010 - 05:16
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I can understand you have to be human....I get it.
A mage king/queen (not consort love slave of Alistair) would be nice.
An inferno wielding King?Queen means you dont need a bodyguard!
A mage king/queen (not consort love slave of Alistair) would be nice.
An inferno wielding King?Queen means you dont need a bodyguard!
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Posté 12 janvier 2010 - 05:22
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Zafireria wrote...
But if you are not a noble, and can just take the throne, then anyone in the game can take the throne. Wynne, Loghain, Sten, Morrigan, and so on, because they helped saving Ferelden too. Or perhaps a poor begger could take the throne?
No they cant. They were just followers who did what they were told. I was the leader and I was the one who saved everyone and raised the army. I should have the option to take my throne as well.
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Posté 12 janvier 2010 - 05:28
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As one of the posts suggests, let's move to Tevinter. They seem to have a healthy tradition of mage rulers up there. I sooooo hope that one of the expansions actually shows the Tevinter capital. If a backwater hole such as Ferelden can have a capital the size of Denerim, what must Minrathous look like. There's a challenge for the art crew.
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Posté 12 janvier 2010 - 05:29
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Seriously, if you guys want to be in a position of royalty, Fereldan isn't the most mage-friendly place to do it. If you tried to pull a coup, there's no way the bannorn would swallow it. I mean, look what happened when Loghain tried to take the regency, and he was way more legitimate than you are. Sure, you raised an army to defeat the Blight, but Loghain led an army for Fereldan's independence, and there were plenty of people who wouldn't swear to his banner.
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Posté 12 janvier 2010 - 06:09
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You can always become chambellain orf whatever of Alistair/Anora. And then, give them all your precious advices/love.
If that's not enough, Blood Control them, godamnit !
It seems that Loghain were right with that whole puppeteer thing, after all.
If that's not enough, Blood Control them, godamnit !
It seems that Loghain were right with that whole puppeteer thing, after all.
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Posté 12 janvier 2010 - 06:15
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I knew someone would comment on that part ;P But yeah I suppose they could do an exception with the hero/heroine of Fereldan.Cybercat999 wrote...
Zafireria wrote...
But if you are not a noble, and can just take the throne, then anyone in the game can take the throne. Wynne, Loghain, Sten, Morrigan, and so on, because they helped saving Ferelden too. Or perhaps a poor begger could take the throne?
No they cant. They were just followers who did what they were told. I was the leader and I was the one who saved everyone and raised the army. I should have the option to take my throne as well.
