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[xgiovedi]

Kerridan Kaiba wrote...

@outlaworacle and SarEnyaDor - I posted the nicest thing possible then started handing the link out for laughs. Sorry girls. I'm not mean. Really.

lol You know, I did the same thing. But I did make a post or two in that thread, expressing my fear.

On a ramdom note, I think after the battle for gay marriage is over, we should start fighting for the right to be able to marry video game characters.
Our hero: http://news.cnet.com...0404956-71.html
/sarcasm

Modifié par xgiovedi, 12 janvier 2010 - 08:39 .

[cinderburster]

Kerridan Kaiba wrote...
Just wait a minute! I always go to the boy's toy section to pick up the female Bakugan characters! Refute that!

And I shudder at the sight of pink and have two shelves' worth of Transformers.  Clearly I am not female and do not, in fact, exist.

[Kohaku]

Cybercat999 wrote...

Oh boy I go get some dinner and this thread grows 5 pages O.o
Lazy to read all........ what happened to mans men? I could use one to do the dishes here if you got any extra left.

It's gotten all kinds of funny in that time. Sit down, take a martini. You're in for a long ride.

[DukeOfNukes]

Obtusifolius wrote...

As a feminist, I do not think that every woman should go out to work and that if she does not then she is letting the team down.

As a feminist I do strongly believe that anyone, male or female, should be free to do whatever they choose with their lives, so long as they are not hurting anyone else.

I can understand and even respect that. However, we do not live in a society of equality. That path, if we even attempted it, would take generations to achieve. Women enjoy freedoms that they don't even consider, while men are still very much boxed in. For example...females are allowed to show emotion at will. I mean, you even have words for all kinds of emotions we've never even heard about. I mean...males basically have 4. Happy, sad, angry, tired. Women have crazy ones like "lethargic" and "depressed".

Personally...I couldn't respect a woman who would choose to NOT work. I mean, sure...maybe if she has kids, she can put it off for a while...but by the time those kids are in school, she should have some kind of job.

[EJ42]

Dahelia wrote...

Our roles are not that different...except I have a period and I can carry children...and you can't...oh and I have boobs but if a man is fat enough he can have them too....we are emotional and think with our emotions sometimes, while men think with one head. As the saying goes "Men have two heads but only enough blood to run one at a time" (No offense to my guy friends). For you to actually think that our roles are so different....is stupid. I'm a woman, I'm in college. I am a minority but a greater minority because I am a hispanic female who is achieving a master degree...

That's great for you.  Get your degree, and start a wonderful and fulfilling career.  Enjoy that all you can up to the point where you decide you want children, then ultimately decide you don't want to return to work after your maternity leave. (Yes, plenty of working moms fill our world, but that's not the point)

Men have had to fight, tooth and nail, for "paternity" leave.  Nobody expects a man to quit his job to take care of the children after his wife gives birth.  It's not unheard of, but it's simply not possible for him to provide the same things a mother can.

This discussion, however, has gone way off-topic beyond anything worth continuing.

The point is that men expect certain things of other men, and they expect certain things of women.  It's the same reason you (a woman) don't wear a suit and tie out to a club when looking for a guy.

Alistair can come across as a very emasculated character to male players.  I suppose that can be appealing to some women.  Well, I'm glad you enjoyed having him in your party.  I was perfectly happy to replace him with Morrigan, Leliana, and Wynne.

I think the most important thing is that the characters in the game, as they were written, appelaled to their target audiences effectively.

[Kohaku]

cinderburster wrote...

Kerridan Kaiba wrote...
Just wait a minute! I always go to the boy's toy section to pick up the female Bakugan characters! Refute that!

And I shudder at the sight of pink and have two shelves' worth of Transformers.  Clearly I am not female and do not, in fact, exist.

Me either. Where are my Jetfire and Jetstorm supposed to go next to my Holiday 2009 Barbie doll?

[Herr Uhl]

xgiovedi wrote...
On a ramdom note, I think after the battle for gay marriage is over, we should start fighting for the right to be able to marry video game characters.
Our hero: http://news.cnet.com...0404956-71.html
/sarcasm

I have said it before and will say it again, god bless Japan!

[cinderburster]

Obtusifolius wrote...

cinderburster wrote...

Kerridan Kaiba wrote...
Just wait a minute! I always go to the boy's toy section to pick up the female Bakugan characters! Refute that!

And I shudder at the sight of pink and have two shelves' worth of Transformers.  Clearly I am not female and do not, in fact, exist.

Same here <_<

Welcome to the club!  We have letterjackets.

Or we would, but sadly the jackets don't exist either.

[Dahelia]

EJ42 wrote...

Dahelia wrote...

Our roles are not that different...except I have a period and I can carry children...and you can't...oh and I have boobs but if a man is fat enough he can have them too....we are emotional and think with our emotions sometimes, while men think with one head. As the saying goes "Men have two heads but only enough blood to run one at a time" (No offense to my guy friends). For you to actually think that our roles are so different....is stupid. I'm a woman, I'm in college. I am a minority but a greater minority because I am a hispanic female who is achieving a master degree...

That's great for you.  Get your degree, and start a wonderful and fulfilling career.  Enjoy that all you can up to the point where you decide you want children, then ultimately decide you don't want to return to work after your maternity leave. (Yes, plenty of working moms fill our world, but that's not the point)

Men have had to fight, tooth and nail, for "paternity" leave.  Nobody expects a man to quit his job to take care of the children after his wife gives birth.  It's not unheard of, but it's simply not possible for him to provide the same things a mother can.

This discussion, however, has gone way off-topic beyond anything worth continuing.

The point is that men expect certain things of other men, and they expect certain things of women.  It's the same reason you (a woman) don't wear a suit and tie out to a club when looking for a guy.

Alistair can come across as a very emasculated character to male players.  I suppose that can be appealing to some women.  Well, I'm glad you enjoyed having him in your party.  I was perfectly happy to replace him with Morrigan, Leliana, and Wynne.

I think the most important thing is that the characters in the game, as they were written, appelaled to their target audiences effectively.

My father did pretty well for a few years....providing for us as a stay at home dad....also my degree will allow me to work from home as well. It is the new day and age, companies are allowing their employees to work from home.

[Cybercat999]

Dahelia wrote...

Cybercat999 wrote...

Oh boy I go get some dinner and this thread grows 5 pages O.o
Lazy to read all........ what happened to mans men? I could use one to do the dishes here if you got any extra left.

Women are suppose to do the dishes...according to someone.....>.>

They are? Wow, really?
I should tell that theory to my husband I am sure he will get few laughs. Or maybe not......

[EJ42]

Dahelia wrote...

Cybercat999 wrote...

Oh boy I go get some dinner and this thread grows 5 pages O.o
Lazy to read all........ what happened to mans men? I could use one to do the dishes here if you got any extra left.

Women are suppose to do the dishes...according to someone.....>.>

Who said anything about dishes?

Women are simply not expected to go out hunting the food.  That says nothing about the preparation of it.  Women are supposed to protect the children while the men go out to bring back dinner.  This is in direct opposition to how things work in the world of lions and some other animals.

I think scientist/engineer women are sexy, but my ideal situation would be one where the children never had to be in daycare.  I think, ideally, I'd like to be able to have an environment where my wife could work at home (have her own art studio, lab, or whatever) while I do whatever it is I have to do to earn money.  If my wife happened to enjoy cooking, then I'd let her, but I think it would be more interesting to spend the time together in the kitchen, cooking as a team.  There's also a major appeal to doing the dishes together.  It's about being a team, and filling the void(s) in each other's lives.

Besides, we all know what marriage ultimately means.  It's finding a person you enjoy eating and watching TV with, who doesn't annoy you too much to drive you away the rest of the time.

[Bullets McDeath]

I... who in the sam hell is still hunting for their food?!

[Digital Supremacy]

is it just me or does EJ42 seem to match Sten as far as personality and beliefs go? 

Modifié par Digital Supremacy, 12 janvier 2010 - 08:52 .

[EJ42]

MrHimuraChan wrote...

EJ, you are single, right? Tell me you are.

Brazil.  Different culture.

[Dahelia]

MrHimuraChan wrote...

EJ42 wrote...

Dahelia wrote...

Our roles are not that different...except I have a period and I can carry children...and you can't...oh and I have boobs but if a man is fat enough he can have them too....we are emotional and think with our emotions sometimes, while men think with one head. As the saying goes "Men have two heads but only enough blood to run one at a time" (No offense to my guy friends). For you to actually think that our roles are so different....is stupid. I'm a woman, I'm in college. I am a minority but a greater minority because I am a hispanic female who is achieving a master degree...

That's great for you.  Get your degree, and start a wonderful and fulfilling career.  Enjoy that all you can up to the point where you decide you want children, then ultimately decide you don't want to return to work after your maternity leave. (Yes, plenty of working moms fill our world, but that's not the point)

Men have had to fight, tooth and nail, for "paternity" leave.  Nobody expects a man to quit his job to take care of the children after his wife gives birth.  It's not unheard of, but it's simply not possible for him to provide the same things a mother can.

This discussion, however, has gone way off-topic beyond anything worth continuing.

The point is that men expect certain things of other men, and they expect certain things of women.  It's the same reason you (a woman) don't wear a suit and tie out to a club when looking for a guy.

Alistair can come across as a very emasculated character to male players.  I suppose that can be appealing to some women.  Well, I'm glad you enjoyed having him in your party.  I was perfectly happy to replace him with Morrigan, Leliana, and Wynne.

I think the most important thing is that the characters in the game, as they were written, appelaled to their target audiences effectively.

EJ, you are single, right? Tell me you are.

This one works better...for that and the other reply he gave me

[EJ42]

outlaworacle wrote...

I... who in the sam hell is still hunting for their food?!

I suppose you think food comes from the grocery store?

[EJ42]

Obtusifolius wrote...

EJ42 wrote...
Who said anything about dishes?

Women are simply not expected to go out hunting
the food.  That says nothing about the preparation of it.  Women are
supposed to protect the children while the men go out to bring back
dinner.  This is in direct opposition to how things work in the world
of lions and some other animals.

I think scientist/engineer
women are sexy, but my ideal situation would be one where the children
never had to be in daycare.  I think, ideally, I'd like to be able to
have an environment where my wife could work at home (have her own art
studio, lab, or whatever) while I do whatever it is I have to do to
earn money.  If my wife happened to enjoy cooking, then I'd let her,
but I think it would be more interesting to spend the time together in
the kitchen, cooking as a team.  There's also a major appeal to doing
the dishes together.  It's about being a team, and filling the void(s)
in each other's lives.

Besides, we all know what marriage
ultimately means.  It's finding a person you enjoy eating and watching
TV with, who doesn't annoy you too much to drive you away the rest of
the time.

When do you turn into Mr Nice Guy? [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/andy.png[/smilie]

Suddenly you are being almost reasonable.

I never claimed to be unreasonable.  I just have an opinion on the way things are "supposed" to be.

I realize that isn't the way things are in society today.  The fact that so many people are tainted by the way things are is why they can't comprehend why we have a problem with Alistair.

Watch the movie Castaway, with Tom Hanks.  When you get outside of our society, you can start to see what really matters in life.

Watch Lost even.  I didn't see too many complaints from the women letting the men be men.  Being a woman isn't about doing the dishes or the laundry.  It's about being provided an environment where they can feel safe enough to do whatever task they feel like doing.  It's a man's job to provide that safety and security.  It's never a woman's job to provide do that for a man.  That man would be a worthless drunk, sitting on the couch all day, wasting space.

Modifié par EJ42, 12 janvier 2010 - 08:57 .

[Cybercat999]

EJ42 wrote...
If my wife happened to enjoy cooking, then I'd let her, but I think it would be more interesting to spend the time together in the kitchen, cooking as a team.  There's also a major appeal to doing the dishes together.  It's about being a team, and filling the void(s) in each other's lives.

To be honest there is no way in hell I would let any man in my kitchen while I cook. You can do the dishes later.

[brownstudies]

EJ42 wrote...

  If my wife happened to enjoy cooking, then I'd let her, but I think it would be more interesting to spend the time together in the kitchen, cooking as a team.  There's also a major appeal to doing the dishes together.  It's about being a team, and filling the void(s) in each other's lives.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. i thought it was about protecting your woman?! You're not a man's man at all! You're more of a sissy than Alistair!