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KlownSnypr wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

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All guns and powers in MP should be equivalent to the SP guns and powers. Nuff said no more nerfing just lots of buffing to all the nerf'd to death weapons.


LOLOLOLOLOL. several of the guns in SP are game breakingly OP if they were pushed into MP. 4 mrk X Adas ARs on TGIs. It'd be like the Krysae GI's all over again.

And there have been more buffs than nerfs in MP too.


Don't care   *snip* 


You see, this is where your credibility stopped.

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... This post i dedicated to those that think we are trying to destroy your game. We are not. In fact we are trying to save it even while you can’t see it.


LOL! Who on earth are you to decide what is good for me?

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billy the squid wrote...

KlownSnypr wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

KlownSnypr wrote...

All guns and powers in MP should be equivalent to the SP guns and powers. Nuff said no more nerfing just lots of buffing to all the nerf'd to death weapons.


LOLOLOLOLOL. several of the guns in SP are game breakingly OP if they were pushed into MP. 4 mrk X Adas ARs on TGIs. It'd be like the Krysae GI's all over again.

And there have been more buffs than nerfs in MP too.


Don't care   *snip* [/b][b]


You see, this is where your credibility stopped.



And that is where your benevolence and pseudo superioty come into play. I can think of someone else that thought he knew better than anyone else as well. Ended up killing 6 million people just because they were different.

Simple solution, if you don't like the guns don't use them. Don't like the game you're in because of said guns leave and find a new one. Your attitude is as such like the atheists removing god from all things public including the pledge of allegience. I'm sorry atheism is a lack of relegion and the constitution only protects your right to relgion not from it. But yet the majority have to bend to the will of the extreme minority.

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Why should i use a common weapon such a char? And why i shouldn't add upgrades for gold and platinum. Do u listen even to urself? Insulting, really? Direct primitive insults? Wow, u have my respect, NOT!



Pffffft. when I need your respect I'll.... forget it. I don't.  The utter failure to realise that stacking equipment on an UR weapon to boost it's damage by upwards of 100% and then put it on a character and say it's OP boggles the mind. 


What you have essentially said is" My high lvl UR, with lvl 3 and 4 consumables and lvl 5 gear lets me kill things to so fast the character is OP" even though it has nothing to do with the character and everything to do with the loadout you just used. By that reasoning if I put that combo on the destroyer, the destroyer should also be nerfed. Daft isn't it.

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KlownSnypr wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

KlownSnypr wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

KlownSnypr wrote...

All guns and powers in MP should be equivalent to the SP guns and powers. Nuff said no more nerfing just lots of buffing to all the nerf'd to death weapons.


LOLOLOLOLOL. several of the guns in SP are game breakingly OP if they were pushed into MP. 4 mrk X Adas ARs on TGIs. It'd be like the Krysae GI's all over again.

And there have been more buffs than nerfs in MP too.


Don't care   *snip* [/b][b]


You see, this is where your credibility stopped.



And that is where your benevolence and pseudo superioty come into play. I can think of someone else that thought he knew better than anyone else as well. Ended up killing 6 million people just because they were different.

Simple solution, if you don't like the guns don't use them. Don't like the game you're in because of said guns leave and find a new one. Your attitude is as such like the atheists removing god from all things public including the pledge of allegience. I'm sorry atheism is a lack of relegion and the constitution only protects your right to relgion not from it. But yet the majority have to bend to the will of the extreme minority.


Lol, and we have reached the point of Godwin's Law! When you are utterly defeated and have no basis for you reasoning, compare the person you're replying to, to Hitler. Well done. 

Just when I thought you couldn't discredit yourself further, you out did yourself. You did well son.

Edit:

You do realise that the first amendment of your constitution has something to say about that too you know. Seroiusly read it, especially regards to any law dictating the establishment of an enforced religion. The first Ammendment and Pledge are legally incompatible if interpreted properly.

I find it amazing I know more about your legal system and constitutional law than you.

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tCruzin4lyfe wrote...

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AIU is overpowered but so is the GI, and GI wasn't nerfed into the ground. Fancy that.

Does the GI have infinite autorevives that are superior to medgel? Nuff said.

Severe nerf needed. The only thing this kit does is to teach bad players to keep bad habits. Ramboing around without to fear any consequences is one thing. Hitting a lobby and immediately ready up without even take a look at the other kits/setups/ map/enemy settings is all I see from Reegar AIU's. Surest way to earn a kickvote.


oh please, "infinite revives" lmao. Every game I played that had had a AIU in it has gone down plenty and didn't get right back up. They either ran out of RM or it went out just as they were getting shot at. It cracks me up people think this kit is so Op that anyone can just jump from bronze and solo gold with it. She is not even the best Infiltrator. Also having a teammate that can get up on their own is a good thing. That way others don't have to risk going down as well trying to revive. Simple solution, don't like the kit, don't play the kit. If one joins the lobby, leave or kick. 


There is a fair bit of challenge in risking ones self to revive a team mate.  It ia a shame that challenge is made meaningless.

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billy the squid wrote...

KlownSnypr wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

KlownSnypr wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

KlownSnypr wrote...

All guns and powers in MP should be equivalent to the SP guns and powers. Nuff said no more nerfing just lots of buffing to all the nerf'd to death weapons.


LOLOLOLOLOL. several of the guns in SP are game breakingly OP if they were pushed into MP. 4 mrk X Adas ARs on TGIs. It'd be like the Krysae GI's all over again.

And there have been more buffs than nerfs in MP too.


Don't care   *snip* [/b][b]


You see, this is where your credibility stopped.



And that is where your benevolence and pseudo superioty come into play. I can think of someone else that thought he knew better than anyone else as well. Ended up killing 6 million people just because they were different.

Simple solution, if you don't like the guns don't use them. Don't like the game you're in because of said guns leave and find a new one. Your attitude is as such like the atheists removing god from all things public including the pledge of allegience. I'm sorry atheism is a lack of relegion and the constitution only protects your right to relgion not from it. But yet the majority have to bend to the will of the extreme minority.


Lol, and we have reached the point of Godwin's Law! When you are utterly defeated and have no basis for you reasoning, compare the person you're replying to, to Hitler. Well done. 

Just when I thought you couldn't discredit yourself further, you out did yourself. You did well son.


Can only work with what you give me. And when you act a certain way and have a rather nonchalant and cavalier attitude go figure people have a problem with that.

Seeing how I am not the only feeling this way apparently I am not so defeated afterall. No you can sit here and defend your socialist ideals all you want. I am going to go enjoy the game while you sit here and fume and try to come up with a proper retort.

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is it too much to say stop fighting guys, and treat each other with respect? This is exactly what we criticize our politicians for, and yet we seem to be afflicted with the same stuff. We can't get anything done because of our differences and each side resorts to insulting the other. We only hurt our common cause, and that should be to have a fair and stimulating game with team work against the reapers and win! We are becoming the joke of the video game community guys.

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@happy
1. Juggernaut, in which way he is balanced? There is no chance to get him down if u give him a cyclonic modulator, except u have a realy moronic gamestyle or when u play the first time a game.

2. I don't care if bioware balances, if bioware does it just from ingame-feedback. But I care if players demand the nerfs, by players who are not even gold-capable, by players who have not even maxed out rares, or ask for a weapon nerf while they don't have this weapon, yet.

3. GI is still much too powerfull. Invite me (if u play on pc) on gold on platinum while i use a javelin on it. I promise, u will not make much kills, i really promise and i promise, i barely will go down, because enemies don't come even really close to me.

Like i said, bioware has set wrong priorities.

I am really curios how much the RM will be nerfed, since i love the playstyle with her (i am doing well with any char, just invite me to proove), but i didn't see any point in nerfing her, for example.

But what really annoys me, is the fact, that the lancer will be nerfed by 10 %, while it is clearly not too strong. Harrier is still "much" more effective tbh and the harrier will never get touched, probably because its a private toy of an dev or something like that.


1. Can't take cover or run. Also, the 15% damage decreased if you choose evo 6b which makes him arguably "invincible". No power that does high damage or drastically increases damage done (only exception is Hex Shield 6a).
He might be stronger than other kits, but there is no need to nerf him.

2. Does this also mean we can't ask for buffs? Again, if you disagree with how BioWare balances their game, that's not a problem for me. Make a thread and give them constructive criticism. But as long as you want to have the buffs, you have to deal with the nerfs. Don't overestimate the influence of BSN, we don't have that power or (for example) the Harrier would've been nerfed a long time ago. Hell, even suggested buffs to the crappiest weapons/powers (Raptor/Incisor/Sabotage) took weeks if not month to get implemented.

3. GI is still too powerful because he can't/won't be nerfed without damaging other kits. GE, GT or all the other Proxy Mine users would suffer much more than the GI would. Same with the TGI (Havoc, Overload kits).

Fortunately for you, the AIU is not different. Which means she'll still be an awesome kit to play. The auto-revive feature will most likely stay because a patch would be required to change it.

Eric didn't say anything about the Lancer. So i suppose there won't be a nerf, maybe even a buff. And please, how often do i have to say it? Individual player skill has nothing to do with game balance. Nobody cares how awesome or horrible you are at this game (no offense).

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KlownSnypr wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

KlownSnypr wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

KlownSnypr wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

KlownSnypr wrote...

All guns and powers in MP should be equivalent to the SP guns and powers. Nuff said no more nerfing just lots of buffing to all the nerf'd to death weapons.


LOLOLOLOLOL. several of the guns in SP are game breakingly OP if they were pushed into MP. 4 mrk X Adas ARs on TGIs. It'd be like the Krysae GI's all over again.

And there have been more buffs than nerfs in MP too.


Don't care   *snip* [/b][b]


You see, this is where your credibility stopped.



And that is where your benevolence and pseudo superioty come into play. I can think of someone else that thought he knew better than anyone else as well. Ended up killing 6 million people just because they were different.

Simple solution, if you don't like the guns don't use them. Don't like the game you're in because of said guns leave and find a new one. Your attitude is as such like the atheists removing god from all things public including the pledge of allegience. I'm sorry atheism is a lack of relegion and the constitution only protects your right to relgion not from it. But yet the majority have to bend to the will of the extreme minority.


Lol, and we have reached the point of Godwin's Law! When you are utterly defeated and have no basis for you reasoning, compare the person you're replying to, to Hitler. Well done. 

Just when I thought you couldn't discredit yourself further, you out did yourself. You did well son.


Can only work with what you give me. And when you act a certain way and have a rather nonchalant and cavalier attitude go figure people have a problem with that.

Seeing how I am not the only feeling this way apparently I am not so defeated afterall. No you can sit here and defend your socialist ideals all you want. I am going to go enjoy the game while you sit here and fume and try to come up with a proper retort.


Yes run from the evil socialist. What a terible thing.... even though your country is already a quasi socialist capitalist state. *facepalm*

Fume? The RM is getting nerfed, it's been established. If you want to say, the nerfers have won this round. Will it be like the Krysae? No idea.

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How do we know the RM is getting nerfed? Just because of the immense amount of whining?

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While in the past it could kinda be believed that in game stats were used for nerffs due to overuse compared to other things. What could possiblly be the reason for this one? Not enough time has passed to ignore the new toy syndrome and personally i have seen far more juggs/krolords, hell i have seen far more collector adepts than aiu's.
To me it looks like they have listened to the vocal minority this time and i find that a terrible way to balance a game. That is a way to make me think twice about touching a bioware mp game again and i fikin love this game(almost 700hrs mp)

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Hausner85 wrote...
This post i dedicated to those that think we are trying to destroy your game. We are not. In fact we are trying to save it even while you can’t see it. 



Really? Then let's talk about the Krysae Sniper Rifle.  I LOVED this weapon. I used it all the time. Then the nerfers came along & tried to "save my game". Now I NEVER use the Krysae. It's a worthless piece of crap now.

So thank you, all you stupid ****ing nerfers!  You saved my game!  I don't know how I could survive without you. You took one of my favorite guns & saved it so I never even look at it anymore. Nice job!

I didn't want your ****ing help!  I didn't need your ****ing help! And I wish you would get lost. Go drown or play in the middle of freeway traffic or something. Just get the hell out of here. Friggin douchebags!

i didnt even get the krysea until after its first nerf. I still had a lot of fun with it, until the next nerfs came along......

go away nerfers, you are boring and everything you touch becomes boring. and this is a game. lol

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farjeffery wrote...

is it too much to say stop fighting guys, and treat each other with respect? This is exactly what we criticize our politicians for, and yet we seem to be afflicted with the same stuff. We can't get anything done because of our differences and each side resorts to insulting the other. We only hurt our common cause, and that should be to have a fair and stimulating game with team work against the reapers and win! We are becoming the joke of the video game community guys.


Respect is earned.

There exists one side, where I have stated why it is that way and given reasons. And there exists the otherside, which has effectively said, No it isn't and I don't care what you say, because disagreeing is treason and you're Hitler if you do.

Yeah conducive discussion died with the people I've replied to at the outset of the conversation. I'm much happier to simply deride them now for being dense.

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born2beagator wrote...

How do we know the RM is getting nerfed? Just because of the immense amount of whining?


It's been established by Fagnan. How much we don't know, not really to worried by it. 

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Hausner85 wrote...

N7 Shadow SR2 wrote...

xtorma wrote...

N7 Shadow SR2 wrote...

Hausner85 wrote...
This post i dedicated to those that think we are trying to destroy your game. We are not. In fact we are trying to save it even while you can’t see it. 



Really? Then let's talk about the Krysae Sniper Rifle.  I LOVED this weapon. I used it all the time. Then the nerfers came along & tried to "save my game". Now I NEVER use the Krysae. It's a worthless piece of crap now.

So thank you, all you stupid ****in nerfers!  You saved my game!  I don't know how I could survive without you. You took one of my favorite guns & saved it so I never even look at it anymore. Nice job!

I didn't want your ****ing help!  I didn't need your ****ing help! And I wish you would get lost. Go drown or play in the middle of the freeway or something. Just get the hell out of here. Friggin douchebags!


Don't hold back brother.



You have no idea how much I despise the friggin nerfers.  They're like Mass Effect multiplayer's cancer or a really nasty STD.  Toilet scum that you just can't get rid of.

pfft......."save the game".  Biggest load of crap I've seen on this forum so far.


Well what a polite and smart things you have to say. You know that the Krysea was nefer bye Bioware not nerfers and you know why?

I give you a hint:

N7 Shadow SR2 wrote..
I LOVED this weapon. I used it all the time


Your just the type of player that I'm fighting against: a scrub who can play only if he was overpower weapon/kit and who will refuse to use anything else. And when you toy is taken away from you blame others for your failures not your lack of skill. Also if you were smarter you would know that the thing that really broken finally Krysea was removing of the charge mechanics to fight missile glitching. After playing 1200 hr you really should be able to understand why OP kit/weapons are bad for game. And that for example Krysea was absurdly broken having more power then black widow, no need to aim and killing multiple enemies at once..

you know what darwinian evolution is? yeah, civilization was an attempt to get away from that. media entertainment even more so. you are a moron.

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billy the squid wrote...

born2beagator wrote...

How do we know the RM is getting nerfed? Just because of the immense amount of whining?


It's been established by Fagnan. How much we don't know, not really to worried by it. 


Oh.  Whiners get what they want I guess.<_<

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KlownSnypr wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

KlownSnypr wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

KlownSnypr wrote...

All guns and powers in MP should be equivalent to the SP guns and powers. Nuff said no more nerfing just lots of buffing to all the nerf'd to death weapons.


LOLOLOLOLOL. several of the guns in SP are game breakingly OP if they were pushed into MP. 4 mrk X Adas ARs on TGIs. It'd be like the Krysae GI's all over again.

And there have been more buffs than nerfs in MP too.


Don't care   *snip* [/b][b]


You see, this is where your credibility stopped.



And that is where your benevolence and pseudo superioty come into play. I can think of someone else that thought he knew better than anyone else as well. Ended up killing 6 million people just because they were different.

Simple solution, if you don't like the guns don't use them. Don't like the game you're in because of said guns leave and find a new one. Your attitude is as such like the atheists removing god from all things public including the pledge of allegience. I'm sorry atheism is a lack of relegion and the constitution only protects your right to relgion not from it. But yet the majority have to bend to the will of the extreme minority.

i agree with your thinking, and yes there are extremists on both sides, but publicly those are about equal. you know about westboro right? and creationists? there are these on both sides. but we are on the same side in this thread.

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born2beagator wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

born2beagator wrote...

How do we know the RM is getting nerfed? Just because of the immense amount of whining?


It's been established by Fagnan. How much we don't know, not really to worried by it. 


Oh.  Whiners get what they want I guess.<_<


Yeah because the Harrier has been nerfed into the ground right? If the whiners here got their own way then that gun would be the GPR 2.0

As it stands the AIU is too powerful when looking at it's power combinations. In terms of damage AND survivability. That's the problem it gets both. And Inf with one of the best tech powers in the game, tac cloak boost, and a power which revives, increases speed, gives DR, can boost restore shields in cloak and has excelent manuverability.

How they'll deal with the RM I don't know, nor care too much. If you think BioWare takes that much notice of what is said here then you've made a mistake. It simply confirms what those of us have said. 

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billy the squid wrote...

farjeffery wrote...

is it too much to say stop fighting guys, and treat each other with respect? This is exactly what we criticize our politicians for, and yet we seem to be afflicted with the same stuff. We can't get anything done because of our differences and each side resorts to insulting the other. We only hurt our common cause, and that should be to have a fair and stimulating game with team work against the reapers and win! We are becoming the joke of the video game community guys.


Respect is earned.

There exists one side, where I have stated why it is that way and given reasons. And there exists the otherside, which has effectively said, No it isn't and I don't care what you say, because disagreeing is treason and you're Hitler if you do.

Yeah conducive discussion died with the people I've replied to at the outset of the conversation. I'm much happier to simply deride them now for being dense.


and respect is lost. If only people had respect for all things in this world without it being earned like a paycheck. If I don't have your respect then what am I to you? Some one to manipulate, someone unfit for your sympathies?  

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Poor DPS? I use him with AR AMP 3, Warpammo 4 and Partical Rifle. Yea, thats a ****ing poor DPS, NO JOKE!!!. I speak not about silver or bronze, since in silver or bronze actually everything is overpowered.

And about that the lancer has slightly more dps than partical rifle, this is no argument for me, it is a freakin UR-Weapon, too, and if u have a ton of luck, u need just 112 psps to get it to X... like any UR weapon also.


Now do the SAME thing with a regular Human Soldier with Adrenaline Rush (or the BF3), or a Turian Soldier with Marksmanship, or a Destroyer (Devastator Mode), Quarian Marksman (MM + Tac Scan) or Geth Trooper (HM); OK, the Kroldier gets only the passive boosts to weapon damage as well but he's got Inferno Grenades and Carnage for Fire Explosions everywhere. The BatSol has Inferno Grenades and Ballistic Blades and the Vorcha has a friggin' flamethrower!

Yes, the Geth Juggernaut has poor DPS - relatively speaking, lowest of all the Soldier classes... especially if you go full tanky and take 6b in Hardened Platform.


But if you really want to see how bad his DPS is, just go Drell Adept with Grenade Capcity V and Adrenaline Mod III ... Reave + Cluster bomb combos (and 6 Cobra missiles) at light speed around the map. Everything dies before the Juggernaut can really bring his gun into play.

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I didnt ask for respect. I gave him respect (sarcasm) for poor insults. Insulting is a proof of social stupidity.

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farjeffery wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

farjeffery wrote...

is it too much to say stop fighting guys, and treat each other with respect? This is exactly what we criticize our politicians for, and yet we seem to be afflicted with the same stuff. We can't get anything done because of our differences and each side resorts to insulting the other. We only hurt our common cause, and that should be to have a fair and stimulating game with team work against the reapers and win! We are becoming the joke of the video game community guys.


Respect is earned.

There exists one side, where I have stated why it is that way and given reasons. And there exists the otherside, which has effectively said, No it isn't and I don't care what you say, because disagreeing is treason and you're Hitler if you do.

Yeah conducive discussion died with the people I've replied to at the outset of the conversation. I'm much happier to simply deride them now for being dense.


and respect is lost. If only people had respect for all things in this world without it being earned like a paycheck. If I don't have your respect then what am I to you? Some one to manipulate, someone unfit for your sympathies?  


Honestly, I really have no preconception of who you are, so I don't know how I'd respond to you yet, it'd be based on how you act. I certainly have no compunction in telling people they're being stupid, when they're being utterly dense and they resort to silly points or can't make a reasoned response. 

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Impius wrote...

I didnt ask for respect. I gave him respect (sarcasm) for poor insults. Insulting is a proof of social stupidity.


You gave me nothing, and I responded in kind. I don't need your respect just as you don't need mine. You were being daft, and it got pointed out to you.