The Nerfers love this game more than you do.... and they trying to protect it for you (Wall of text)
#301
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 03:47
This post i dedicated to those that think we are trying to destroy your game.[/quote]
I think you are personally, now the enemeis are super powered because they get buffed while we get nerfed. Maps get modified because people farm them which is ****ing stupid, we're taking advantange of a choke point, that's what you do at war, you entrench and destroy the enemies when theyr'e coming at you, that way you don't show your back to them or waste energy.
[quote]Hausner85 wrote...
Well imagine that you just started you first MP game. You have Avenger I on your Hsol level I. Then three Drell Assassins (lev 20) with Black Widow X and Drill Round III come to you Bronze lobby.[/quote]
That's not relevant, three different lvl 20s as any species in a bronze with a high powered gun and drill roudns will kill everything before a level 1 with an avenger, that's not changed from you ****ing classes are too strong. That's not even a worth a **** comparison.
[quote]Hausner85 wrote...
This is what OP kit/weapons do to the game. They make playing other kit/weapons frustrating and unrewarding.[/quote]
It is rewarding, they get the same benefits, other than medals that they would have gotten for actually fighting. If anything they're being rewarded for doing nothing, which isn't by choice hopefully. People like you complaining makes every kit mediocre, in real life not every soldier is the same, but all the nerfing in this game has effectively made them the same, their stats may be different from each other in different areas, but really, they're all just mediocre crap shacks now.
[quote]Hausner85 wrote...
I know I’m exaggerating here but not very much. If there are overpowered kit/weapons in the game all (but the very best) players are forced to use them.[/quote]
No one is forced to do anything, I have almost never played one of the OP kits, I rarely use OP weapons unless I'm doing a platium matches, and *le gasp* I'm not one of the best players, I'm not even sure I really rank as mediocre yet. People play with what they're good at, it doesn't matter how OP something is, if you suck with it, it's OPness is null because you still SUCK.
[quote]Hausner85 wrote...
Very soon the best thing about ME3MP it’s variety will be dead.[/quote]
You mean like making every class mediocre as hell?
[quote]Hausner85 wrote...
They will always hurt your gaming experience.[/quote]
That's moronic, having OP classes hurt you no more than playing with people who are better than you at the game. You're going to run into it, deal with it.
[quote]Hausner85 wrote...
The OP kit/weapons take you where you shouldn’t be.[/quote]
Like to awesome and win?
[quote]Hausner85 wrote...
You’re not ready to play Gold but with them you can.... [/quote]
Sounds like your goddamn ready to me. If you can play Gold with them then OBVIOUSLY you are ready to play it. Just because someone can't play Gold with ever single character doesn't mean they're not ready for Gold, even thinking that is so moronic it hurts my head.
[quote]Hausner85 wrote...
after 50-60 you want to switch to something else. You do..... Only to find yourself being completely unable to play with it.[/quote]
That's likely to happen period, another ****** comparison. If you play as only a single character and class for a long period of time then you change it, you're not going to do well until you get use to it.
[quote]Hausner85 wrote...
and you're always consistently outscored by almost every one[/quote]
Not everyone gives a **** about that stuff, I'm usually 3rd or 4th in my games, I play Plat and Gold only. There aren't OP classes due to people like you, so I know by your stupid concepts I'm ready for them.
[quote]Hausner85 wrote...
This kit is promoting stupid and reckless behavior even on gold.[/quote]
It also promotes stupid topics, key and point here. You do realize you're ****ing because you don't like how other people play, you should focus on your own play style and leave them the hell alone, you talk about how the game needs varity yet you want everyone to play the same, you want all the weapons and characters to be really worth about the same, which is ****.
[quote]Hausner85 wrote...
I cannot see why there should be classes/weapons that allow everyone to play Gold without effort. Also i cannot why everyone should be able to play gold.[/quote]
Because what is little effort for you may be a lot for someone else.
You mentioend something about how it's not about skill, I call bull****. lots of people use snipers, that requires skill, I'm mostly blind, I can't do it, trying **** like that requires skill, just because you don't see it as skill doesn't make it not skill. It makes you a moron.
#302
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 03:59
and never, ever leave it? after a year?
and i'm being honest, i cannot use the vanilla adept with any proficiency whatsoever.
Modifié par Caldari Ghost, 07 mars 2013 - 04:01 .
#303
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 04:04
Modifié par farjeffery, 07 mars 2013 - 04:11 .
#304
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 04:09
it's nice to see that driver just wanted to keep in touch.farjeffery wrote...
this is a great article about respect for everyone by NPR. I just want to share this with anyone here reading this: http://www.npr.org/t...toryId=10228634
Modifié par Caldari Ghost, 07 mars 2013 - 04:11 .
#305
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 04:13
I know! It's amazing how nice people are when you just treat them with respectCaldari Ghost wrote...
it's nice to see that driver just wanted to keep in touch.farjeffery wrote...
this is a great article about respect for everyone by NPR. I just want to share this with anyone here reading this: http://www.npr.org/t...toryId=10228634
Modifié par farjeffery, 07 mars 2013 - 04:15 .
#306
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 04:17
billy the squid wrote...
Yes run from the evil socialist. What a terible thing.... even though your country is already a quasi socialist capitalist state. *facepalm*
Fume? The RM is getting nerfed, it's been established. If you want to say, the nerfers have won this round. Will it be like the Krysae? No idea.
back from inbetween plats.
You seem to be a faily intellignet person and should know more than anyone the the government does not directly represent all the people it is suppoosed to represent. But that is the fault of the people not reigning in the yahoos on capital hill or in your case parlimant.
The first amendment does protect against the people from an enforced relgion but also protects against prohibiting the free excercise of relgion. Seeing how atheism is not a relgion but a lack thereof the only thing they have to complain about is having religion being forced upon them. Which it isn't anywhere even at public buildings where god may be listed or in that one instance having the ten commandments removed from some court house. But why stop there and not raze churches as those are an absolute sign of imposing religion in a public space? Ah first amendment...
Back to my point, the Pledge of Allegiance wasn't formally recognised by the Supreme Court until 1942 and "under god" wasn't added until 1954. In 1940 the Supreme Court ruled on the Gobitis decision giving schools the power to compel students to recite the pledge which was later overturned in 1943. However "under God" is rather vague and can refer to any sort of deity but people assume that because the United States was founded upon Christian ideals that "under God" is refering to the Christian God.
But yes religion is totally forced upon our young people who must recite the Pledge of Allegiance. Oh wait... they don't have to therefore aren't having any religion enforced upon them. It gets a little crazy when a athiest enrolls their child into a private christian school and demands god and bible readings being removed from the curiculum. Won't say names but that **** was dumb and expecting a private school, let alone christian, to give into her demands is beyond stupid. But we all know the media tells nothing but the truth and never leaves out any critical details such as private vs public.
Back to Mass Effect, I can care less about what the developrs do but I do have a problem when people go out of their way to make the game suit their playstyle when it directly affects, often negatively, other peoples playing style. So yes I have problem when a group of individuals think they know best for a community and state it as such all the while maintaining their own hidden agenda. Benevolence my ass.
#307
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 04:22
please dont group all athiests into those who oppose churches, and I wont group all christians into those who rant for creationism and disrespecting warfighter's funerals, while claiming they are the only people in the world who are good enough for heaven.KlownSnypr wrote...
billy the squid wrote...
Yes run from the evil socialist. What a terible thing.... even though your country is already a quasi socialist capitalist state. *facepalm*
Fume? The RM is getting nerfed, it's been established. If you want to say, the nerfers have won this round. Will it be like the Krysae? No idea.
back from inbetween plats.
You seem to be a faily intellignet person and should know more than anyone the the government does not directly represent all the people it is suppoosed to represent. But that is the fault of the people not reigning in the yahoos on capital hill or in your case parlimant.
The first amendment does protect against the people from an enforced relgion but also protects against prohibiting the free excercise of relgion. Seeing how atheism is not a relgion but a lack thereof the only thing they have to complain about is having religion being forced upon them. Which it isn't anywhere even at public buildings where god may be listed or in that one instance having the ten commandments removed from some court house. But why stop there and not raze churches as those are an absolute sign of imposing religion in a public space? Ah first amendment...
Back to my point, the Pledge of Allegiance wasn't formally recognised by the Supreme Court until 1942 and "under god" wasn't added until 1954. In 1940 the Supreme Court ruled on the Gobitis decision giving schools the power to compel students to recite the pledge which was later overturned in 1943. However "under God" is rather vague and can refer to any sort of deity but people assume that because the United States was founded upon Christian ideals that "under God" is refering to the Christian God.
But yes religion is totally forced upon our young people who must recite the Pledge of Allegiance. Oh wait... they don't have to therefore aren't having any religion enforced upon them. It gets a little crazy when a athiest enrolls their child into a private christian school and demands god and bible readings being removed from the curiculum. Won't say names but that **** was dumb and expecting a private school, let alone christian, to give into her demands is beyond stupid. But we all know the media tells nothing but the truth and never leaves out any critical details such as private vs public.
Back to Mass Effect, I can care less about what the developrs do but I do have a problem when people go out of their way to make the game suit their playstyle when it directly affects, often negatively, other peoples playing style. So yes I have problem when a group of individuals think they know best for a community and state it as such all the while maintaining their own hidden agenda. Benevolence my ass.
not everyone's an extremist.
#308
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 04:22
#309
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 04:25
Caldari Ghost wrote...
please dont group all athiests into those who oppose churches, and I wont group all christians into those who rant for creationism and disrespecting warfighter's funerals, while claiming they are the only people in the world who are good enough for heaven.KlownSnypr wrote...
billy the squid wrote...
Yes run from the evil socialist. What a terible thing.... even though your country is already a quasi socialist capitalist state. *facepalm*
Fume? The RM is getting nerfed, it's been established. If you want to say, the nerfers have won this round. Will it be like the Krysae? No idea.
back from inbetween plats.
You seem to be a faily intellignet person and should know more than anyone the the government does not directly represent all the people it is suppoosed to represent. But that is the fault of the people not reigning in the yahoos on capital hill or in your case parlimant.
The first amendment does protect against the people from an enforced relgion but also protects against prohibiting the free excercise of relgion. Seeing how atheism is not a relgion but a lack thereof the only thing they have to complain about is having religion being forced upon them. Which it isn't anywhere even at public buildings where god may be listed or in that one instance having the ten commandments removed from some court house. But why stop there and not raze churches as those are an absolute sign of imposing religion in a public space? Ah first amendment...
Back to my point, the Pledge of Allegiance wasn't formally recognised by the Supreme Court until 1942 and "under god" wasn't added until 1954. In 1940 the Supreme Court ruled on the Gobitis decision giving schools the power to compel students to recite the pledge which was later overturned in 1943. However "under God" is rather vague and can refer to any sort of deity but people assume that because the United States was founded upon Christian ideals that "under God" is refering to the Christian God.
But yes religion is totally forced upon our young people who must recite the Pledge of Allegiance. Oh wait... they don't have to therefore aren't having any religion enforced upon them. It gets a little crazy when a athiest enrolls their child into a private christian school and demands god and bible readings being removed from the curiculum. Won't say names but that **** was dumb and expecting a private school, let alone christian, to give into her demands is beyond stupid. But we all know the media tells nothing but the truth and never leaves out any critical details such as private vs public.
Back to Mass Effect, I can care less about what the developrs do but I do have a problem when people go out of their way to make the game suit their playstyle when it directly affects, often negatively, other peoples playing style. So yes I have problem when a group of individuals think they know best for a community and state it as such all the while maintaining their own hidden agenda. Benevolence my ass.
not everyone's an extremist.
agreed, easy to generalize when focusing on certain points rather than all points. my bad
#310
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 04:26
#311
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 04:27
it's understood and alright.KlownSnypr wrote...
agreed, easy to generalize when focusing on certain points rather than all points. my badCaldari Ghost wrote...
please dont group all athiests into those who oppose churches, and I wont group all christians into those who rant for creationism and disrespecting warfighter's funerals, while claiming they are the only people in the world who are good enough for heaven.KlownSnypr wrote...
billy the squid wrote...
Yes run from the evil socialist. What a terible thing.... even though your country is already a quasi socialist capitalist state. *facepalm*
Fume? The RM is getting nerfed, it's been established. If you want to say, the nerfers have won this round. Will it be like the Krysae? No idea.
back from inbetween plats.
You seem to be a faily intellignet person and should know more than anyone the the government does not directly represent all the people it is suppoosed to represent. But that is the fault of the people not reigning in the yahoos on capital hill or in your case parlimant.
The first amendment does protect against the people from an enforced relgion but also protects against prohibiting the free excercise of relgion. Seeing how atheism is not a relgion but a lack thereof the only thing they have to complain about is having religion being forced upon them. Which it isn't anywhere even at public buildings where god may be listed or in that one instance having the ten commandments removed from some court house. But why stop there and not raze churches as those are an absolute sign of imposing religion in a public space? Ah first amendment...
Back to my point, the Pledge of Allegiance wasn't formally recognised by the Supreme Court until 1942 and "under god" wasn't added until 1954. In 1940 the Supreme Court ruled on the Gobitis decision giving schools the power to compel students to recite the pledge which was later overturned in 1943. However "under God" is rather vague and can refer to any sort of deity but people assume that because the United States was founded upon Christian ideals that "under God" is refering to the Christian God.
But yes religion is totally forced upon our young people who must recite the Pledge of Allegiance. Oh wait... they don't have to therefore aren't having any religion enforced upon them. It gets a little crazy when a athiest enrolls their child into a private christian school and demands god and bible readings being removed from the curiculum. Won't say names but that **** was dumb and expecting a private school, let alone christian, to give into her demands is beyond stupid. But we all know the media tells nothing but the truth and never leaves out any critical details such as private vs public.
Back to Mass Effect, I can care less about what the developrs do but I do have a problem when people go out of their way to make the game suit their playstyle when it directly affects, often negatively, other peoples playing style. So yes I have problem when a group of individuals think they know best for a community and state it as such all the while maintaining their own hidden agenda. Benevolence my ass.
not everyone's an extremist.
#312
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 04:35
#313
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 04:37
born2beagator wrote...
How the freak did this get turned into a religious debate.
#314
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 04:38
#315
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 04:39
Caldari Ghost wrote...
born2beagator wrote...
How the freak did this get turned into a religious debate.same basic conflicting principles, only where they are applied is.... again resembling those basic attributes of a religious debate. up to debate.
Whatever. Can we please keep it out of a gaming forum? If I want religion I will got to the bible or church.
Modifié par born2beagator, 07 mars 2013 - 04:39 .
#316
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 05:41
Hausner85 wrote...
avenging_teabag wrote...
To be frank, Juggs annoy me a lot more, and serve as a crutch for bad players a lot more often. They are a lot more prevalent in lobbies too. With the Sexbot, you at least have to stay mobile, to look for the best angle to maximize your damage, to look out for sync-killers. Juggs literally just stand there and high-five everything. Bleh.
Just had a match that i ended on 220k (Gold) with two juggies doing nothing but surviving everything and choking enemies. Must i say that i took 28 min to finish? Yep juggie is broken to.
I outscored two of them on gold last night too. With a level II Collector SMG wielding Volus Engineer. Not to mention when I took my Human Adept... So yeah... I haven't even unlocked the guy but I can't imagine how it can be fun to play with it.
On the plus side, I was just messing around for this week's challenge so I took a kit I'm terrible with into a plat pug. Me and other guy were just dying all the time and out of gels by wave 5.
Waves 6, 7, 8 and 10 were pulled off by a jugg and a volus sticking by its side. The lil volus was just going cloaked and spamming shield boost for the big guy, and doing heavy melee for DR when in cooldown. So they just tanked all the things for 45 minutes
Back in the lobby, none of them was above N7 600, and yet they made their way through platinum and earned my respect.
#317
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 05:46
Caldari Ghost wrote...
i cant handle platinum, gold, or even silver with the vanilla adept, should i stick with bronze?
and never, ever leave it? after a year?
and i'm being honest, i cannot use the vanilla adept with any proficiency whatsoever.
Why? He's really good. Singularity + warp all the things!
#318
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 05:46
#319
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 06:41
you want to see how bad I am with him? I tried to solo silver cerberus/glacier and didn't last 2 minutes. I didn't kill a single trooper either. i know it is a very good class, but I would need to make some major adjustments to my playstyle to do well enough not to kicked even in bronze. it's mostly singularity, but still.........FateNeverEnds wrote...
Caldari Ghost wrote...
i cant handle platinum, gold, or even silver with the vanilla adept, should i stick with bronze?
and never, ever leave it? after a year?
and i'm being honest, i cannot use the vanilla adept with any proficiency whatsoever.
Why? He's really good. Singularity + warp all the things!
#320
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 06:59
You love the game more? How did you come to that conclusion? Was there a love meter that displayed this? And, to quote Tina Tuner, what does love have to do with it? Because you think you like the game the devs should bend to your will and "protect us from yourselves".
You ask us to be civil in this thread yet you can't see how condescending you come off.
Guess what? I love this game much much more than you. And I think the devs should leave things alone because I heart them so much. Because they made good classes as a farewell gift. Because they made classes for the noobs to do something other than die and get ****ted on in the forums. Because winning is fun, and making you butthurt over a CO-OP game is just icing on the cake.
#321
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 07:05
I think the main combo is singularity and shockwave for multi BEs and thru wall BEs. The vanilla engineer is the real weak link.FateNeverEnds wrote...
Caldari Ghost wrote...
i cant handle platinum, gold, or even silver with the vanilla adept, should i stick with bronze?
and never, ever leave it? after a year?
and i'm being honest, i cannot use the vanilla adept with any proficiency whatsoever.
Why? He's really good. Singularity + warp all the things!
#322
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 07:19
I hate shockwave and its stupid screenshake. I personally exit lobbies with shockwave spammers, especially if sniping. I think it's a n00bproof power just like biotic slash is. I recall spamming it through walls on FBW on my early MP days. Sad times.samb wrote...
I think the main combo is singularity and shockwave for multi BEs and thru wall BEs. The vanilla engineer is the real weak link.FateNeverEnds wrote...
Caldari Ghost wrote...
i cant handle platinum, gold, or even silver with the vanilla adept, should i stick with bronze?
and never, ever leave it? after a year?
and i'm being honest, i cannot use the vanilla adept with any proficiency whatsoever.
Why? He's really good. Singularity + warp all the things!
Modifié par FateNeverEnds, 07 mars 2013 - 07:19 .
#323
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 07:59
I understand the balance of some things like the missile glich,.. overpowered launch day krysae, etc.. but destroying the fun of some characters like the N7 destroyer, typhoon reduced to trash and Stimulant packs HUGE nerfing made the turian Havok go from fun and interesting to obsolete and not interesting character anymore.
Also part of my anger was the Retaliaton new kits, apart from volus and jet turians, all the rest were recycled characters with no new powers-abilities, but thats another story that they listened and fixed with reckoning.
well i just hope they dont nerf the new stuff; instead they should buff the talon mercenary and cabal that absolutely suck in gold and platinum. Also Adas Rifle isnt what it used to be in SP.
#324
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 08:12
Yeah all this nerfing made me quit for a while until retailiation came out. I used to buy 1-2 packs with MS points every week, but after they nerfed cloak I just stopped. "Why spend money on something that could be destroyed on a whim?" is my current thinking. I just don't want to support a company that willfully devalues my purchases.The Shadow Broker wrote...
I dont know if the tittle is trolling or not, but the nerfers and the devs nerfing cool stuff were the reason i left for almost 3 months untill new stuff arrived again.
I understand the balance of some things like the missile glich,.. overpowered launch day krysae, etc.. but destroying the fun of some characters like the N7 destroyer, typhoon reduced to trash and Stimulant packs HUGE nerfing made the turian Havok go from fun and interesting to obsolete and not interesting character anymore.
Also part of my anger was the Retaliaton new kits, apart from volus and jet turians, all the rest were recycled characters with no new powers-abilities, but thats another story that they listened and fixed with reckoning.
well i just hope they dont nerf the new stuff; instead they should buff the talon mercenary and cabal that absolutely suck in gold and platinum. Also Adas Rifle isnt what it used to be in SP.
#325
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 08:13
Saying that - if you believe your own drivel op, you are deluded and full of it.




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