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[GriM_AoD]

caineghis2500 wrote...

TazMonkey2011 wrote...

But I can see where you are coming from OP because some people only play one class and never do well with the other Kits.

Not to mention boasting about topping score with their crutch class:unsure:

That can be kind of irritating, yes. I guess that has happened recently to you, hence this thread?

Either that or just to set up the regular ermahgherdinfisare4nubsandarewayOP****storm

Modifié par GriM_AoD, 05 mars 2013 - 02:35 .

[Ziegrif]

You having fun?
Bad, good, doesn't matter as long as there's fun to be had.

If you're not doing it for the fun then.

Modifié par Ziegrif, 05 mars 2013 - 02:39 .

[Zorinho20_CRO]

GongStar wrote...

If someone is unable to beat gold with any other character than an Infiltrator then I'd say that's a bad player.

Funny thing is,I beat solo Gold (and some Platinum) with many kits,but never with Infiltrator.

[ParatrooperSean]

I doesn't mean you suck, but it does mean you lack versatility.

[NuclearTech76]

Sometimes yeah.

I think there is a mental thing there though. I used to think I had to be an infiltrator to survive Platinum but it's really not necessary. If I'm off host and there is any lag usually I'll play one or a tanky character but a good player is a good player. I think more accurately playing a couple of particular infiltrators only like the TGI and AIU is a bad habit because it can teach bad tendancies.

[Esrever]

I think well balanced and sucking are 2 different things entirely.

Although I like to vary my character usage, usually I have a phase where I use just 2-4 or 5 characters on rotation, for a long time (currently EDI, Human Soldier, Drell Infil, Asari Huntress and trying out the Cabal Vanguard but at the moment I do, in fact suck with her). That doesn't count as just 1 class, but I do it coz it's what I find fun.

Sucking just has to do with performance. Balance, well maybe if you really only use 1 class forever then definitely you are not well balanced. But who cares, right? As long as you're not glitching and are playing well with the team, knock yourself out.

[lktalon22]

I prefer to use sniper rifles. Does this make me a bad player?

[TazMonkey2011]

caineghis2500 wrote...

TazMonkey2011 wrote...

But I can see where you are coming from OP because some people only play one class and never do well with the other Kits.

Not to mention boasting about topping score with their crutch class:unsure:

Exactly. I hardly ever top the score board and I try to play every class evenly. (just look at my manifest, I am currently working on Sentinals) But like I said I think it depends on the player.

in the end I agree that to be a well balanced player you need to be good with all classes. But some people do not want Balance they want to be top of the board.

[Caineghis2500]

lktalon22 wrote...

I prefer to use sniper rifles. Does this make me a bad player?

Not at all I think the majority of BSN'ers use sniper rifles. It's the crutch classes that is the main theme

[TommyNg]

Of course suck , its easy to master another class , there are only 3 powers for each character , something is wrong if one only know infiltrator.

[Deucetipher]

That depends. Which infiltrators? If a player is good with every infiltrator kit, I'd be suitably impressed. If she only did well with the TGI/AIU, less so.

The game rewards high dps over any other playstyle, so it is rational to stick to the kings of dps.  That being said, I'd get bored.

Modifié par Deucetipher, 05 mars 2013 - 02:40 .

[WarGriffin]

caineghis2500 wrote...

I hear this too many times in lobbies and thought I asked you guys.
I don't have much to say about it but I would like the community to comment on this matter:wizard:

Sounds like someone whining that those "stinky Snipers keep getting all the kills!"


Look if they can drop guys quickly and effectively... IDC  play what they want. Maybe if there was a competitive scene i could get the idea of branching out but there isn't.


Skill is subjective, If I'm good  playing mutliple classes yet You're excellent using Vanguards, We are both skilled players... You have just simply specializd more in on area then me.

[khankar]

Dracian wrote...

Personnally, I really don't care if a someone only plays with infiltrators as long as we get a mission successful at the end of a match.

This.

I dont care what kit someone uses, as long as they pull their weight and we get extraction at the end.

Also, TC is over hyped. Its not nearly as good as some people think it is...i should know because i play a lot as an infiltrator. But i find it more enjoyable playing gold with other classes. 

[Cloaking_Thane]

Well not use 5/6 classes would mean you are not well balanced, but you could still be good.

[ISHYGDDT]

Nope, but only being decent with an infiltrator means, they're not well-rounded. I'm not sure that really matters, though.

[etm125]

I think pre-Earth DLC you might have been able to say that. BW has done a great job (mostly. Except for the TGI, AIU, maybe juggernaut) of releasing kits that help make the other classes just as devastating. The change to how fire/cryo explosions work alone shifted the balance back away from the infiltrators.

When you get kits with AF, Flamer, snap freeze, PD, etc people can often keep pace with an infy's swath of destruction.

That being said, the 2 best kits in the game are still infiltrators.

[Dark Tlaloc]

Depends on how good you are with an infiltrator; if you’re leading the scoreboard by 100,000 points, you’re probably just good, period, and happen to be at your best playing as arguably the most powerful class in the game.

But if by “good” you mean “can top the scoreboard or at least come in 2nd in a decent PUG” then yeah, it’s possible that the kit is responsible for a lot of your “skill” as a player.



I personally don’t have an issue with people who prefer infiltrators; my favorite kit is the Drell Assassin, but up until him, I wasn’t a big infiltrator fan personally; they just didn’t vibe well with me. With that being said, I’m a compulsive reviver, to the point of dying way more than I should reviving teammates, so having a super-fast invisible character to fly around the map with works really well for me.

[3XT3RM1N4TUS]

The only infiltrator I can play well is the shadow because of her gameplay, also melee AIU. I'd take a soldier any day over a infiltrator.

Modifié par 3XT3RM1N4TUS, 05 mars 2013 - 02:42 .

[N7Dropout1]

Hmm... Wouldn't say suck, but you're definitely not a well-balanced player if you can't win without an infiltrator.

[Ronnie Blastoff]

Does it mean your not a well balanced player?

Hell yea, what do you think well balance indicates? Surely my well balanced diet isn't solely full of 1/2 lb cheeseburgers with 12 strips of bacon. Why would you concider someone who is only good with an infiltrator a well balanced player.

Now that doesn't meant they aren't a "good" player. But if they are only good with an infiltrator, then it can be a pretty sure bet they aren't good at the game period. As said above, infiltrators at least in this game, don't get shot as often and shoot back really hard.

And I noticed someone said something about scoreboard... Its nothing but XP....if you think its something beyond XP, your vivid imagination is pouring over into reality. And until bioware actually changes the scoreboard to reflect actual work put into the game, say like the debuff you get from a tac scan or a volus shield boost, rather than who has the biggest gun, it will always be that way. If your playing as a level 20 and are worried about score, your even more lost and should really play another game.

[MajorStupidity]

Even with TC being mechanically OP (they just need to make it so weight actually matters to infiltrators) no. This is a video game that we play to have fun. Some people enjoy the aspect of being able to run around invisible with glass cannon kits (AIU laughs at that), or maybe they just really enjoy snipers.

If you are physically incapable of doing well without Infiltrators then yes you probably are not the best player in the world, but does it really matter? People can play what they enjoy and ignore the opinion of others. Even if the kit is OP people should still have the choice to play it all they want without other random anonymous people on the internet condemning them.

[UngodlySnipes]

Being skillful and being a well balanced player are two different things entirely. Playing with one class type doesn't make you a well balanced player, nor does it in any way say anything about your skill level.

[Caineghis2500]

WarGriffin wrote...

caineghis2500 wrote...

I hear this too many times in lobbies and thought I asked you guys.
I don't have much to say about it but I would like the community to comment on this matter:wizard:

Sounds like someone whining that those "stinky Snipers keep getting all the kills!"


Look if they can drop guys quickly and effectively... IDC  play what they want. Maybe if there was a competitive scene i could get the idea of branching out but there isn't.


Skill is subjective, If I'm good  playing mutliple classes yet You're excellent using Vanguards, We are both skilled players... You have just simply specializd more in on area then me.

Topping the scoreboard consistantly without an Infiltrator isn't an issue for me at all. With that said I wasn't referring to that. I just wanted the communities point of view on the subject matter.

Modifié par caineghis2500, 05 mars 2013 - 02:52 .

[SilentStep79]

i think everyone likes the overpoweredness of the infiltrator class now and then. but if it's the only class you can be effective with, then yes, as it was stated earlier, there's an unbalance there.

that is, if you're worried about that sort of thing.

[Dimlor]

Dracian wrote...

Personnally, I really don't care if a someone only plays with infiltrators as long as we get a mission successful at the end of a match.

Agreed, I just want my damn credits and have fun.