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[ThorXxX]

Praetorians need a flying sound. Would solve the majority of the problems i have with collectors...

Modifié par ThorXxX, 05 mars 2013 - 03:14 .

[hong]

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[Uchimura]

hong wrote...

Uchimura wrote...

He didn't say easiest, he said rate of success or most completed extractions on silver, probably because most people wanted something new to play against, but thought were too hard on gold and plat.

No, that really is what he said, "easiest" based on their data. My interpretation was that the mission success rate might be the highest against Collectors, but this would be due to other factors eg readiness to use consumables, most people except the skilled players avoiding them, etc.

Again, pretty sure it was silver he was talking about. Also pretty sure they intended Collectors to be tough and to keep it that way.

[N7-RedFox]

Collectors are wall hacking bastards. Namely the Praetorians. The scions have crazy damage and impeccable aim but what really whinds me up is thier plasma cannon and its stunlock. I mean, I thought Geth were the perpetual stunlock faction. They didn't need to give it to the Collectors too.
And those insta-stomps from troopers are cheap. Seeker Swarms are a big pain too. They have so much health and their movement is totally irratic. Ugh... hate Collectors.

Anything that stops my gun reloading makes me rage

Modifié par N7-RedFox, 05 mars 2013 - 04:26 .

[OuterRim]

Collectors are not that hard on higher difficulties. Those big heads are easy to pop. I find Cerberus harder on Gold then Collectors. That Phantom/Dragoon combo on a couple of the waves can be killer at times.

On Plat I find them all pretty much the same.

On Silver I think Collectors are the hardest.

On Bronze they are all about the same.

On the annoyance meter though, I'd rate them: Geth (stunlock, glitches), Collectors (power blocking, swarms), Reapers (Ravengers, Brutes/Mauraders that spawn right behind you), then Cerberus.

[N7 Panda]

PinkiePipes wrote...

They are pretty easy really, just annoying
Cerberus arent hard either
Reapers are a joke
Geth are just cheats ._.

I fix.

[hong]

Uchimura wrote...

hong wrote...

Uchimura wrote...

He didn't say easiest, he said rate of success or most completed extractions on silver, probably because most people wanted something new to play against, but thought were too hard on gold and plat.

No, that really is what he said, "easiest" based on their data. My interpretation was that the mission success rate might be the highest against Collectors, but this would be due to other factors eg readiness to use consumables, most people except the skilled players avoiding them, etc.

Again, pretty sure it was silver he was talking about. Also pretty sure they intended Collectors to be tough and to keep it that way.

No, there was no qualification about silver or gold or anything that I recall. It was a pretty clear-cut statement: collectors are "easiest based on the data".

[capn233]

Collectors are totally the easiest. All I play is Destroyer w/ PPR + Piranha, tbh.

[CaballoGallo]

How are they hard? The only time I have problems with them is with randoms because they panic. I have a harder time playing Geth with randoms then Collectors. If people find them hard they should stay that way. So the people on struggle street have an enemy faction to aim for.
Collectors are allot easier now then what the used to be when they came out now that combos actually do damage. Play them like you play Reapers, you'll be fine.

[masleslie]

ollpet wrote...

Collectors are the hardest one then geth and cerberus and dead lasr Reapers.

This!

Been stepping up to Gold recently & it only confirmed my opinion. Hardest to easiest & why...

Collectors - have the exploding bad guys, bugs that can render you incapable of defending yourself properly, walking artilery that can shoot the wings off a gnat from 300 yards without warning, sudden unxpected grenade dumps & a giant space crab that desperately wants to give you a hug.

Geth - have stunlock, hoards of drones to pin you down for pulse cannons, flying tin cans with grenade diarrhea, flamethrower dudes hunting in packs, invisible dudes hunting in packs & rocket dudes hunting in packs.

Cerberus - have turrets, lots of turrets. They also have space ninjas with more gadgets than Batman and giant robots firing rockets that seem to defy the laws of physics.

Reapers - have a noisy skinny lass with long nails, a big playful child that doesn't know his own strength & some ugly pregnant things that are kind enough warn you when they are thinking of shooting at you.

Did I miss anything?

[Stinja]

Collectors still crash PS3 games (unrecoverable hard freeze, or thrown back to XMB).

I like playing against them more than Geth, but ^^^ yeah...

[Uchimura]

hong wrote...

Uchimura wrote...

hong wrote...

Uchimura wrote...

He didn't say easiest, he said rate of success or most completed extractions on silver, probably because most people wanted something new to play against, but thought were too hard on gold and plat.

No, that really is what he said, "easiest" based on their data. My interpretation was that the mission success rate might be the highest against Collectors, but this would be due to other factors eg readiness to use consumables, most people except the skilled players avoiding them, etc.

Again, pretty sure it was silver he was talking about. Also pretty sure they intended Collectors to be tough and to keep it that way.

No, there was no qualification about silver or gold or anything that I recall. It was a pretty clear-cut statement: collectors are "easiest based on the data".

Actually I'm pretty sure he had a breakdown of what faction was what for each difficulty. If not him, some other dev.

[Tallgeese_VII]

They are not easy.

They can never be easiest faction because of objectives.
(2 possesed scions throwing multi-cluster grenade from high ground while Praetorian blocks entire view and tanking? Pooh)

[Uchimura]

hong wrote...

No, there was no qualification about silver
or gold or anything that I recall. It was a pretty clear-cut statement:
collectors are "easiest based on the data".

BSN, you tire me.

Eric Fagnan wrote...

According to our player data based on completion rates, the Collectors are slightly harder than other factions on Gold, but about the same as other factions on other difficulties. On Silver, they are the easiest faction.

http://social.biowar...3909/3#15287343

Modifié par Uchimura, 05 mars 2013 - 04:55 .

[Scam_poo]

Actually. They are the second easiest faction.

Cerberus, Geth, Collectors, Reapers.

Though it all comes down to personal preference and to what character you are using.

[Grumpy Old Wizard]

hong wrote...

So, a while back, Eric Fagnan posted that the Collectors were the easiest faction which was why they hadn't received any nerfs. Just wondering if  Bioware still holds that position?

NAH, that is not what he said.  He said Collectors have a only a slightly higher fail rate than other factions.  Based on my experience they have a much higher fail rate on gold and a much higher consumable use rate.

Modifié par Grumpy Old Wizard, 05 mars 2013 - 05:08 .

[Clearly Balkan]

Maybe when you play with 3 friends & you communicate with each other.

Playing Collectors with PUGs is nightmare, although there are exceptions.

Usually those exceptions ends up with sending FR to that person.

[Reizo Ryuu]

cerb > geth > collectors > reapers.

[Googleness]

unclemonster wrote...

IMO:
If we talk platinum, Cerberus is hands down the easiest
If we talk gold, Reapers are the easiest
Bronze & Silver, Geth is the easiest

NOWHERE are Collectors the easiest

[palmof40sorrows]

Hakumen wrote...

InTheZone wrote...

Ahh, communication has come so far to the point where we used stupid meme's to describe how we feel. Neanderthal. 

ON TOPIC, I have no points on topic. 

Ahh, communication has come so far to the point where people with no opinions on the topic still waste their time to make a useless posts just to feel better about themselves and get a little attention. Pathetic.

I thought your Dr. Evil was awesome and I got a nice chuckle out of it, plus I haven't seen that round these parts, so double plus good. Hey InTheZone, I used an Orwell reference, do I get to sit at your lunch table?

[Saans Shadow]

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[FeralJester616]

unclemonster wrote...

IMO:
If we talk platinum, Cerberus is hands down the easiest
If we talk gold, Reapers are the easiest
Bronze & Silver, Geth is the easiest

NOWHERE are Collectors the easiest

Pretty much this, Only I'd say Reapers are easist on Plat/Gold, Geth on Silver and Cerberus on Bronze.

[TheImmortalBeaver]

You could describe every Collector unit like so: "{Insert Collector unit here} is slightly more dangerous than its Reaper counterpart - except when {insert Collector unit here} is possessed, at which point you're screwed." So, at base level, I'd consider them more dangerous than Reapers, but when you throw in possession, they quite easily become the most difficult faction in the game, irrespective of what difficulty you play on.

[Mendelevosa]

If by easiest, you mean agonizingly painful and difficult, then yes. They are definitely the easiest.

[Xaijin]

hong wrote...

So, a while back, Eric Fagnan posted that the Collectors were the easiest faction which was why they hadn't received any nerfs. Just wondering if  Bioware still holds that position?

No he didn't. He posted that the failure rate against Collectors was only marginally higher than other factions.

Fake assertion is full of fake.