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#51
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KillTheWiseOne wrote...

The reason so many people are complaining is, well, this is it. No more, the end of the line. Shep is done, FOREVER. How do they send him/her off, with a clone battle. A clone boss battle. I thought boss battles were video gamey (not complaining, I love boss fights, just pointing out BioWares hypocrisy). I don't know, I wanted this to be good. I wanted to think BioWare still cared. Wanting rarely meets reality I guess. Oh, did I mention Shep is done forever, never to show up ever again in anything. Yeah, it sucks.

The video gamey statement was referring to the scrapped reaperized Illusive Man boss battle, not all boss battles.

Modifié par phillip100, 05 mars 2013 - 06:15 .


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Final feedback: It sucked. Really? A clone? As if the premise of this DLC wasn't ludicrous enough (hosting a party during a galactic invasion), the bad guy ends up being a clone? This is the crap that late night Sci-Fi movies are made of. Just awful.

After watching this DLC, I will not be buying it (as I haven't bought a single piece of ME3 DLC either) and will never be touching a Bioware title ever again. Did you fire all the good writers or something? Because I just cannot wrap my head around how poorly ME3 and it's DLC was written.

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This is a question for Ashleymancers.
Do we have time in this DLC with her as LI?
Thanks a lot in advance.

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Velocithon wrote...

Final feedback: It sucked. Really? A clone? As if the premise of this DLC wasn't ludicrous enough (hosting a party during a galactic invasion), the bad guy ends up being a clone? This is the crap that late night Sci-Fi movies are made of. Just awful.

After watching this DLC, I will not be buying it (as I haven't bought a single piece of ME3 DLC either) and will never be touching a Bioware title ever again. Did you fire all the good writers or something? Because I just cannot wrap my head around how poorly ME3 and it's DLC was written.

All of the 8 BioWare Edmonton writers were working on this DLC.

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How were the ME2 squad mates handled guys?

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Ralen1 wrote...

Just finished watching a livestream of the entire DLC. The squad, as always, are exceptionally well-written. Fantastically so, but this is no real surprise to anyone. A little too much circle-jerking and everyone patting eachother on the back for my liking, as other posters have already mentioned it's really, REALLY cheesy, but it's excusable.

The main plot is complete tripe, and it's kind of clear it's aimed at people having a random, light-hearted adventure with their squad. As someone above also said, it probably would have blown contented fans away as a post-ending romp through the mass effect universe.

Not a single shred of worthwhile interaction with those skyscraper size baddies the series was about at one time though, the R...R-somethings? The big robot-squid-y things that play second fiddle to Cerberus and the glow in the dark toddler?

The overall impression? It still gives the feeling that the Mass Effect universe is this rich, vibrant world - but one you guys have no clue where to go with anymore. As if people are aware they've written themselves into a complete corner by standing their ground, fingers-in-ears going "La La La" about just how much the ending and their handling of it ****ed things; so the best thing to do is just spin out a few stand-alone tv episode style DLCs until the next game allows for a reboot.


agreed, to an extent, ive come to terms with everything and can still put it all together and like it but nonetheless something has been lost, something obviously went wrong/changed at some point, some of the magic is gone , the reliabilty of great story, character and lore and a sense of true original and complelling ideas and characters from bioware and a certain standard of quality and detail, its been diminished some {the attitude and lies did not help and wont be forgotten}

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phillip100 wrote...

Velocithon wrote...

Final feedback: It sucked. Really? A clone? As if the premise of this DLC wasn't ludicrous enough (hosting a party during a galactic invasion), the bad guy ends up being a clone? This is the crap that late night Sci-Fi movies are made of. Just awful.

After watching this DLC, I will not be buying it (as I haven't bought a single piece of ME3 DLC either) and will never be touching a Bioware title ever again. Did you fire all the good writers or something? Because I just cannot wrap my head around how poorly ME3 and it's DLC was written.

All of the 8 BioWare Edmonton writers were working on this DLC.


What team is working on MEnext again?

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I like this DLC, at least it is better than Omega.

However, the party will be more make sense if it's a victory party, after beating Reapers and all / most crew survive, isn't it?

In my opinions, BioWare you finally made a perfect ending players wanted, you just did not acknowledge it is the original ending should be.

If the timeline got some modified, and the beginning of the DLC is "after the war is over, Reapers are gone and Anderson is sarcificed, according to his will, he left this apartment to Shepard", and then the story begins....then the DLC is 10/10 to me.

Modifié par BoneCarlos Lee, 05 mars 2013 - 06:25 .


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KillTheWiseOne wrote...

phillip100 wrote...

Velocithon wrote...

Final feedback: It sucked. Really? A clone? As if the premise of this DLC wasn't ludicrous enough (hosting a party during a galactic invasion), the bad guy ends up being a clone? This is the crap that late night Sci-Fi movies are made of. Just awful.

After watching this DLC, I will not be buying it (as I haven't bought a single piece of ME3 DLC either) and will never be touching a Bioware title ever again. Did you fire all the good writers or something? Because I just cannot wrap my head around how poorly ME3 and it's DLC was written.

All of the 8 BioWare Edmonton writers were working on this DLC.


What team is working on MEnext again?

BioWare Montreal. Why do you ask?

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Doubt post, sorry.

Modifié par BoneCarlos Lee, 05 mars 2013 - 06:22 .


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Nice idea to go back to the RPG roots, but the ending still burns the series to the ground. You can claim whatever you want about the endings, but I can't go past london if I even play to london. Sitting through the whole citadel travesty is a nightmare. Not a spec of game play. The worst ending to a game ever. So anti climactic and if you think this DLC will salvage anything, you all need some serious rehab because clearly BW has been drugging you.

Edited to add: It's really sad that I play the two games through, loving them to bits and then when I play the third and the ending comes, I feel sad because it just falls so flat. At least with a TV series I wasn't so invested in all of it. At least I don't go back and play it over and over. That's the problem here. People still love ME1 and ME2 but are left with garbage for ME3 so you can play the first two and know how it ends and never really play the third.

From the videos I've seen though, it looks like you did a nice job. Still a lot of relying on cut scenes, but understandable to some degree, though that was also a down side of ME3 - too many cut scenes. But again, I will say it looks like it will at least bring in something to redeem the lack of RPG and that's a good thing. If only they did an alternate ending (since no ending is cannon) where it all makes sense and we get to have an actualy fight that ends in the destruction of the reapers rather than a chat that ends in picking a box.

Modifié par starlitegirlx, 05 mars 2013 - 06:27 .


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KillTheWiseOne wrote...

phillip100 wrote...

Velocithon wrote...

Final feedback: It sucked. Really? A clone? As if the premise of this DLC wasn't ludicrous enough (hosting a party during a galactic invasion), the bad guy ends up being a clone? This is the crap that late night Sci-Fi movies are made of. Just awful.

After watching this DLC, I will not be buying it (as I haven't bought a single piece of ME3 DLC either) and will never be touching a Bioware title ever again. Did you fire all the good writers or something? Because I just cannot wrap my head around how poorly ME3 and it's DLC was written.

All of the 8 BioWare Edmonton writers were working on this DLC.


What team is working on MEnext again?


Montreal, I think. But Walters & Hudson still take some part in it, so don´t get your hopes up.

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BoneCarlos Lee wrote...

I like this DLC, at least it is better than Omega.

However, the party will be more make sense if it's a victory party, after beat Reapers aemollient / most crew survive, isn't it?

In my opinions, BioWare you finally made a perfect ending players wanted, you just did not acknowledge it is the original ending should be.

If the timeline got some modified, and the beginning of the DLC is "after the war is over, Reapers are gone and Anderson is sarcificed, according to his will, he left this apartment to Shepard", ans the story begins....then the DLC is 10/10 to me.


This would have fixed so many problems! A clone is bad, but does not make the whole DLC bad, just that part of it. I could have easily forgotten the clone if this was how it was written. 

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When will this be available on PC?

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Nerevar-as wrote...

KillTheWiseOne wrote...

What team is working on MEnext again?


Montreal, I think. But Walters & Hudson still take some part in it, so don´t get your hopes up.

I don't think Walters is involved in it, but Hudson is still the Project Director.

Modifié par phillip100, 05 mars 2013 - 06:24 .


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DLing it now, hope to not be dissapointed, as Omega and Leviathan literally took me about and hour and a half each to run through on Insanity. Hoping for some actual lengthy content this time seeing as Citadel is taking up a whoping 3.99 gigs

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DLing it now, hope to not be dissapointed, as Omega and Leviathan literally took me about and hour and a half each to run through on Insanity. Hoping for some actual lengthy content this time seeing as Citadel is taking up a whoping 3.99 gigs

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MrFuddyDuddy wrote...

DLing it now, hope to not be dissapointed, as Omega and Leviathan literally took me about and hour and a half each to run through on Insanity. Hoping for some actual lengthy content this time seeing as Citadel is taking up a whoping 3.99 gigs


Its even shorter then omega actually. Most of the stuff are the party after and the files for the arena combat most likely.

Modifié par Smeffects, 05 mars 2013 - 06:32 .


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Codename_Code wrote...

This is my last post on BSN. I loved the saga for years, I support the indoctrination theory, and my Shepard is waking up in London with the reapers out there, leaving me in a cliffhanger nightmare I can never wake up from, this is my punishment for trusting Bioware writers and getting engaged in this story.

Citadel DLC is a stinky cheesy TV episode of normady : high school days, an obvious post ending victory DLC shoved up in the middle of the game with one liners and references that took that side of me that admired the sophistication and touch Bioware was known about in their stories and broke it down to dust. Im talking now to any of the genius and fabulous writers from ME1 and ME2, the ones that built this beautiful world : Why you let this happen, why you let them kill mass effect with non-sense. Was it arrogance ? so unfortunate.

In this DLC they took my beloved comander shepard and turned her into a partying ******, who doesnt care about the ongoing reaper war or the reapers, a shamelest fanservice fest with Shepard and crew taking part on a script more worthy of charlies angels. Talking about an impostor shepard.

Time to leave ME behind, the awkening never arrived, the nonsense prevails, and Bioware have new "improved" fans with less demanding quality.

Good luck bioware, you are going to need it.



I figured it would be like this. I ALMOST spent the money to download the dlc but I think I'll just trade in my mass effect copies for Tomb Raider/Sim City and call it a day. I refuse to allow my Shepard to go down like this. Hope my collector's edition ME2 and ME3 bring in something good!

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I can't wait to play this! It is not on PSN yet, it would appear. I have tried manual search and going from the DLC link in the game menu. But no Citadel yet. Will search again later this evening!

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BoneCarlos Lee wrote...

I like this DLC, at least it is better than Omega.

However, the party will be more make sense if it's a victory party, after beat Reapers aemollient / most crew survive, isn't it?

In my opinions, BioWare you finally made a perfect ending players wanted, you just did not acknowledge it is the original ending should be.

If the timeline got some modified, and the beginning of the DLC is "after the war is over, Reapers are gone and Anderson is sarcificed, according to his will, he left this apartment to Shepard", ans the story begins....then the DLC is 10/10 to me.


Maybe of MEHEM happy ending mod whould do it?) Just start this mission "after" credits) And some voice modifining like in "mass effect poop" videos.

BTW DLC IS GREAT!

And to haters - shepard could have some free time. For example time to recharge core drive, or just routin maintaince of Normandy. Whole ME3 timeline IS NOT 30+ hours what it takes to complete the game from leaving Earth till shot the red tube.   Bilding a crucible is about from 1-2 to 6-8 months for me. And Shepards missions are showing to us 2-4 weeks of action. What the hell shepard should do all other time?

In real life wars there is also some "free time". Reconing, buiding defences, checking equipment - all needs time and soldiers (who shepard is) cant be "in action" all the time.

Modifié par Sporozoa, 05 mars 2013 - 06:54 .


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Just finished (added some points after thinking about the playthrough, so i'm reposting once more here). 

Pros:

-some of the dialogue is hilarious, i laughed out loud several times (esp. with kasumi's random appearances at the party)
-silversun strip is gorgeous, the enviroment in the DLC is so colorful that time just flew by when i was exploring it
-mordin's message...good god, the tears did flow
-attention to detail, both visually and in banter dialogue
-the scene toward the end with shepard overlooking the normandy; in my playthrough, kaidan says something like "it's been the biggest challenge, but also the biggest reward" or something to that effect and i was genuinely moved to tears
-soundtrack was nice. i would personally have preferred different party music, but the combat and romance music was good
-the ability to interact with each character separately at various points throughout the DLC was nice
-fighting in the normandy = well done
-extra effort was put into LI contact overall, which is very much appreciated
-some of the in-game combat varieties were nice (e.g., having to disable cameras at the casino)

Cons:

-main mission was short- not sure how long it took other people, but it took me about 3 hours to finish it (i'm not complaining about how much the DLC cost, just saying that i think it could have been expanded more)
-though i'm not personally *that* turned off by the shepard clone, it did feel somewhat cliche/abrupt/unexplained (cerberus did what with her genes and made what? why?)
-brooks' character felt rushed..by the time that she was introduced and i was just starting to like her, she turns to a completely different personality and i had a hard time swallowing the switch
-the "come to my apt." scene with kaidan (my LI) was...awkward and short. i haven't seen any other LI scenes, though i'm guessing from even just the trailer that some of them are more interesting (in general, i felt like kaidan and shepard were acting more like comrades or military buddies during that particular scene than romantic partners).
-this is really nitpicky, but i would have liked at least one alternate casual outfit for shepard...that short black dress was grating my eyes after a few hours
-i had several glitches on my playthrough...e.g., calling up Tali but then having Liara show up after I tried to call Liara earlier and failed.
-in general, the inviting people up mechanism was confusing--when i would try to invite someone up pre-party, glyph would try to start the party. when i'd tell him no i'm not ready, people would come in and (as far as i could tell) reference the party happening before it happened. weird.
-autodialogue continues...a lot. to the point where in romance scenes i found myself thinking, "what? i wouldn't say that! she's being such a b***!"
-some of the personal character moments came off as awkward. the one that comes to mind is garrus' and liara's moments (my two favorite non-LI characters)...my free time with garrus turned into me playing cupid with a female turian (which doesn't make sense bc he ends up with tali anyway) and my free time with liara was a 2-minute interaction where she played three notes on the piano and then said she had to go....what?
-my final and, now that i think about it, main con pertains to the ending (yes, the taboo discussion that is the ending)...if this would have been post-ending, it would have been absolutely pheomenal. but stuck in the middle of the war, it felt awkward and off at times (the party amidst the reapers). similarly, when i reached the end, the party aftermath felt "quiet," as Liara says...just sort of melancholic. i think at some point she even said that..."probably our last one [party]"...that line really struck a chord with me. if it had been "the last party," but had the tone of "hurrah we won the war!" i think the DLC would have looked quite different. as it stands, it's incredibly bittersweet. i don't mind bittersweet as long as the bitter makes sense or has meaning/purpose or SOMETHING, but the way the ending is now...it just seems like it had so much potential to be a really wonderful closer, but instead was bogged down by so much bitterness for no reason. 

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I'm tempted to buy the DLC, but my disc two broke, so I'm worried if I buy it I won't even be able to access it. I already have a completed game, but I can't remember if the access point before the Cerberus HQ is on one disc one or two.
Can someone let me know?

And no, I'm not going to buy another disc, I just want to finish this last DLC and let Mass Effect be.

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I very much enjoyed it. I almost died of laughter with Traynor and her toothbrush.

edit: and the space chess showdown

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kobayashi-maru wrote...

I seriously don't understand the hate. It all about character relationships and they can't fight constantly they need breather occasionally. It's fun, entertaining and the dialogue is the best in the trilogy. Have finished mission and wandering around finding all the Easter eggs now, greatly enjoyable.


Cool then you helped me make up my mind if that's all the DLC is. I enjoy playing games, if I want to listen to the dialogue I'll watch the dialogue on Youtube for free no reason to pay $15 for that.