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Pavs719 wrote...

Thats thanks to all the idiots who asked for the nerfs, great another class ruined.

It won't be ruined, repair matrix will still regen shields while cloacked, will still put you back on your feet. I'm pretty sure they will only reduce its duration and maybe the amount of shields regenerated.

Modifié par Cohen le Barbare, 05 mars 2013 - 10:16 .


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Maybe the usual sniper/assault damage number, but with melee instead of shotgun damage?

I can get with that.


I was thinking maybe changing the 6b tac cloak evo to something like +10% shotgun damage and +15% (or even 20%) power damage. Would still be an overall nerf to her damage since Snap Freeze doesn't make up much of it even when you use it every cloak cooldown, but it would also maybe encourage more speccing into Snap Freeze on her.

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Rebel_Raven wrote...

Holy-Hamster wrote...

League of Legends does this all the time.

If you think about it, it's a really smart / although somewhat lame imo business tactic.

Release new heroes who are OP? Why are they OP? Because to develope a new character that is unique, new style of gameplay, new powers etc takes waaaaay too long. So what's the easiest and fastest way to get people interested in new characters? Simply make them more powerful. People will jump all over them, because they're more powerful, not necessarily because they're more fun to play. But then you have the issue of power-creep. If you keep doing this, without adjusting it, then eventually game balance goes out of whack. So you release a new hero, its OP, let everyone play with it for a while. Let them spend their money on custom skins (aka League of Legends), buying the champ, buying packs to get the hero. And then you nerf it, so game balance isn't completely flopped. People complain that it got nerfed, but eventually everyone realizes that it was indeed OP and is good for the game.

I hardly think the designers of this game did not real how powerful these combinations are. And granted, it's the last DLC so might as well make a crazy OP character just for fun...but still. That's the stategy.

Step 1) Release OP char
Step 2) Watch everyone spend money / credits buying those characters
Step 3) Let them play with it for a while
Step 4) Nerf it because it was made OP to begin with, and nerf it down to the level it should have been released at, but wasn't

Everyone's happy again, until the next new OP char is released and it starts all over again.

Bioware isn't quite as blatant about it as Riot is with League of Legends most of the time, but I still think they do it.

Unfortunately it doesn't really work this way with BSN. People are still complaining about the GI, nevermind the TGI.
No one gets to be happy!


Well BSN is going to complain no matter what happens.  That's pretty much a given :P

That's basically a given for ANY video game forum.  Forum users are the minority.  Most people play the game and never take the time to post on forums.  If they don't like it, they just stop playing.  It's really the minority that comes here and discusses the game.

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Holy-Hamster wrote...

League of Legends does this all the time.


LoL is much, much worse. Riot has less of a clue on how to balance a game than BW does, and Riot has been doing it for longer. LoL is way more dependant on microtransactions than this game considering it's free to play and ME3 is not. BW already has your money from originally buying the game. Riot also nerfs anything good into the ground. You can count on one hand (and still have fingers left) the amount of times BW has done that.

Also, ME3 is fun, LoL isn't.

Modifié par BeardyMcGoo, 05 mars 2013 - 10:19 .


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Parallax Demon wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

_BlackWolfBG_ wrote...
Considering the OP is so happy that the Repair Matrix will be nerfed I'm going to guess that he gets topped a lot by this awesome kit while he doesn't even want to put some effort and taste the awesomeness of the kit. But well, there will always be people that just wont stop crying about something. I still can't realise why people want this nerf so much. It doesn't harm you in ANY way.. actually it's exactly the oposite, it makes the game a little bit easier for the team as a whole.

OP is one of the better players on BSN so highly doubtful.

Not doubtful at all. This is the typical reaction of the so called elite players when they get (almost) outscored by any kit when they are running around with any Volus on Plat with a common gun.
Don't forget; according to BSN it's not about teamplay but all about that freaking scoreboard at the end of the match, hence the ammounts of posts of people mentioning their score when starting/replying in a thread.


Hello, you must be new here. If you'll take the time to search or read you'll quickly discover why both of these points are incorrect.
1. "BSN only cares about scoreboard". Any time anyone here says points or scoreboard mean anything at all they are routinely shouted down and called an idiot and/or a noob. 
2. "People who recommend nerfs are all just mad they were outscored". If you read one, even ONE, serious balance thread about EDI you will quickly realize no one says she's overpowered because of points. Its her unlimited medigels that do not contribute to points. 

I cannot think of any way one could actually peruse the BSN at all and come up with these points. 

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BeardyMcGoo wrote...

Holy-Hamster wrote...

League of Legends does this all the time.


LoL is much, much worse. Riot has less of a clue on how to balance a game than BW does, and Riot has been doing it for longer. LoL is way more dependant on microtransactions than this game considering it's free to play and ME3 is not. BW already has your money from originally buying the game. Riot also nerfs anything good into the ground. You can count on one hand (and still have fingers left) the amount of times BW has done that.

Also, ME3 is fun, LoL isn't.


Oh I already said Riot was much more blatant about releasing OP characters simply for the sake of sales.  But I don't think Bioware is above doing that either.  I think there's been some pretty obvious examples of them doing it.  

I was simply using the example of LoL to make my point.  I don't like the game all that either, but for a different reason.  LoL's community makes BSN look like saints.

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mmmmmmm

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Holy-Hamster wrote...

BeardyMcGoo wrote...

Holy-Hamster wrote...

League of Legends does this all the time.


LoL is much, much worse. Riot has less of a clue on how to balance a game than BW does, and Riot has been doing it for longer. LoL is way more dependant on microtransactions than this game considering it's free to play and ME3 is not. BW already has your money from originally buying the game. Riot also nerfs anything good into the ground. You can count on one hand (and still have fingers left) the amount of times BW has done that.

Also, ME3 is fun, LoL isn't.


Oh I already said Riot was much more blatant about releasing OP characters simply for the sake of sales.  But I don't think Bioware is above doing that either.  I think there's been some pretty obvious examples of them doing it.  

I was simply using the example of LoL to make my point.  I don't like the game all that either, but for a different reason.  LoL's community makes BSN look like saints.


Go play Tetris.

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Heri wrote...

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Not doubtful at all. This is the typical reaction of the so called elite players when they get (almost) outscored by any kit when they are running around with any Volus on Plat with a common gun.

Don't forget; according to BSN it's not about teamplay but all about that freaking scoreboard at the end of the match, hence the ammounts of posts of people mentioning their score when starting/replying in a thread.


Then would you be okay with a class that could just one-shot any enemy instantly at the touch of a button? After all it's just a team game, so who cares?

Or how about a missile that wipes out every enemy on the map? Again, as long as you're winning the match what's the big deal, right?

So you can see why the "it's a co-op game, who cares" line of thinking is really quite dumb.

Also I don't hate EDI because I get outscored by her, I hate her because I feel BAD for my teammates when I use her. I break 200k on platinum without using missiles easily with her. And that's in plat matches that last ~20 mins, so it's not like I'm playing with mouthbreathers either.

The class is insanely OP and needed a reasonable nerf. End of story. If all you want is an I WIN button, go design your own game where you can win everything with no work required.


As far as I know she can't kill any bosses with one shot from any weapon except a Cobra missile, and all she has going for her is the instant revive when downed.

Good players don't need the instant revive but will use DM for offensive means and bad players will rush into spawns use DM once and get killed two seconds after it.

On Gold+, the Kroguard and Ghost give you a better survivability and the only big plus of this kit is the buff to the best guns in the game. But nobody is talking about that for some strange reason.

And 200k on Plat isn't really that much when you play with randoms, who don't really know what they are doing, which is 90% of the case. Image IPB

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Tetris is above my skill level. :(

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Holy-Hamster wrote...

 LoL's community makes BSN look like saints.


Exactly the reason LoL is no fun.  I'd rather play Halo with 10 year olds screaming at me over voicechat than play LoL.

I don't believe BW releases OP things and then nerfs them just so people will spend $$ on packs. Do they want your money from the MT's? Of course. But I think balance changes, whether it be nerfs or buffs, don't have much of an impact on the amount of cash they get from MT's.

Modifié par BeardyMcGoo, 05 mars 2013 - 10:27 .


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doozerdude wrote...

Lucifuture wrote...
JK nobody can cry like a nerfer.



Your post points to the contrary.

What part of my post did you read as whiny rather than playful and lighthearted? You might be projecting ;)

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I'm shocked that the Op is salivating over a new upcoming nerf. LOL, ok not really that surprised.

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BeardyMcGoo wrote...

Exactly the reason LoL is no fun.  I'd rather play Halo with 10 year olds screaming at me over voicechat than play LoL.


I'd put up with that and hear how GAY I'm being rather than play League of Lulzords for an extended period.

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Ehhh, whatever...-_-

Modifié par Amusingthree93, 05 mars 2013 - 10:45 .


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COLZ7R wrote...

Really any nerff wont effect the good players , it will only effect the "little people/scrubs) who are doing better than normal,right? So who cares! Mission sucsses!!!!


QFT.

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Ultner wrote...

COLZ7R wrote...

Really any nerff wont effect the good players , it will only effect the "little people/scrubs) who are doing better than normal,right? So who cares! Mission sucsses!!!!


QFT.


One could argue the exact opposite of this. =/

A good player will notice a 5% change, a baddie won't.

The difference being a good player will adapt, a baddie will... reroll.

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As long as immortality stays, absolutely NOTHING matters.

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Parallax Demon wrote...

As far as I know she can't kill any bosses with one shot from any weapon except a Cobra missile, and all she has going for her is the instant revive when downed.


Actually, I'm 95% sure that she can kill an Atlas in one shot if you do things right :whistle:

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Alright. I just unlocked the Sexbot, and I'll get to try it out this weekend. Can't wait to try a new character or item pre-nerf for the first time. Wait, what? What??

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Stimpo wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Why so serious? If you survived the Stimpack nerf, you will be able to survive the Repair Matrix nerf. And its not like she gonna be ruined anyway because dat 20% shotgun boost.


But that's using reason, and reason doesn't let us rage out on video game forums. LEAVE EDI ALONE Q___Q


I honestly don't think using the Stimpack nerf for the Havoc is a legitimate way of reasoning.

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Annomander wrote...

Pavs719 wrote...

Thats thanks to all the idiots who asked for the nerfs, great another class ruined.


More, more! They taste delicious, give them all to me!

:devil:


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Modifié par joker_jack, 05 mars 2013 - 10:57 .


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Ahhhhh, at last...

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What was the purpose of this post? It doesn't appear constructive to me.

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Deerber wrote...

Parallax Demon wrote...

As far as I know she can't kill any bosses with one shot from any weapon except a Cobra missile, and all she has going for her is the instant revive when downed.


Actually, I'm 95% sure that she can kill an Atlas in one shot if you do things right :whistle:


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