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tymay33

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After playing through multiple times, does anyone else feel like they did really bad on your first character now that you think back?

Like for me, being a mage I relied on AOE's way to much and i couldn't play past normal or i'd kill my whole party in 5 seconds (Storm of the Century). The high dragon and Flemyth took multiple attempts and to be completely honest i had to switch to easy to actually kill the archdemon.

But on my second playthrough as a warrior, I immediately switched to hard as normal seemed to easy. My party consisted of 1 caster, 1 ranged, and two melee. And now that i know more about the game i can easily micromanage alongside using tactics. Flemyth and the high dragon only took one try to kill and the archdemon about 3 but i kept it on hard and it wasnt to bad.

And because of this i am really tempted do delete my first character and replay him all over.

What about you how do you think you did your first time? (haha sounds naughty:happy:)

Modifié par tymay33, 12 janvier 2010 - 08:34 .


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Sloth Of Doom

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Your thread is called 'Your first time' which made me giggle because I am immature.



Your thread contains spoilers which made me angry, because this is the no spoilers board.




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tymay33

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Ok that was my bad, but it is moved now

Modifié par tymay33, 12 janvier 2010 - 08:35 .


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My first ever playthrough was as a City Elf and now that I think about it,I had NO idea what I was doing the first time I played DA.I re-played the same character again immedietely after finishing the game and did just about every side quest out of addiction. D:

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I think I did okay for myself the first time around - I was a mage that ended up being the healer, so there was a bit of tactics I had to figure out. Each time I've tried to be drastically different so that the fighting is something new to learn each time.

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I'm definitely seeing a difference. My first play-through was as a mage, and I generally went with a rogue, a warrior, and two mages. One mage, (Morrigan), focusing on disables, and the other on direct damage. I just remember my character dying about 4 or 5 times before finishing Ostegar, including one time my entire party dying, and having to reload.



To be honest, the hardest fight to me was the Broodmother. I have no idea how I'm going to kill her with a single mage in my party.



Playing through again, as a dual-wielding rogue, well, I haven't died yet. Same difficulty level.



Edit: Oh, I forgot that I killed Wynne the first time through, never realized she was a potential companion. I guess I can have Wynne and Morrigan.

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Thane19

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I'm definitely seeing a difference. My first play-through was as a mage, and I generally went with a rogue, a warrior, and two mages. One mage, (Morrigan), focusing on disables, and the other on direct damage. I just remember my character dying about 4 or 5 times before finishing Ostegar, including one time my entire party dying, and having to reload.



To be honest, the hardest fight to me was the Broodmother. I have no idea how I'm going to kill her with a single mage in my party.



Playing through again, as a dual-wielding rogue, well, I haven't died yet. Same difficulty level.



Edit: Oh, I forgot that I killed Wynne the first time through, never realized she was a potential companion. I guess I can have Wynne and Morrigan.

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First play through was on a rogue. I took the talent to allow your cunning to be used instead of strength then went into dual wield to the talent that would allow two larger weapons to be dual wielded then when I started to get decent longswords I realised they all had fairly high strength requirements on them so I wound up boosting my strength anyways =P

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Mt first time.....lol, I actually bought all of Morrigans shapeshifting abilities and bought everyones specialisation talents because I thought, "They're specializations, your supposed to get them", this despite the fact that I realised halfwa through that I wasn't using them. Then there's the fact that I didn't use my specializations of my main charecter, even the ones that I now know are useful.

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DJ0000 wrote...

Mt first time.....lol, I actually bought all of Morrigans shapeshifting abilities and bought everyones specialisation talents because I thought, "They're specializations, your supposed to get them", this despite the fact that I realised halfwa through that I wasn't using them. Then there's the fact that I didn't use my specializations of my main charecter, even the ones that I now know are useful.


YES i was so mad that i invested in shapeshift for morrigan, only to not use it at all

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My second playthrough was so much easier, I went from Human Noble Warrior to City Elf Rogue. After a while of upping the dexterity and Duelist stats and specs, I was blocking or dodging 50-75% of attacks and had become a DPS powerhouse. It was incredibly entertaining dropping the Archdemon on hard in under 2 minutes at level 19.

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My first playthrough was a dual-wielding rogue, and I really think when it came to the early talent choices I didn't quite no what I was doing. Dual-striking was less then useful, why did I put off getting Momentum for so long. I muddled along until I got to a point where I finally started to be effective.



I also didn't build my companions as well as they could have been, particularly the mages. They didn't even have mana clash.

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Xandurpein

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First play through I was very lucky. I played a Knight/Tank and it was pretty straght forward, having played online games like WoW, but I didn't quite know which spells to buy for my mages, So more or less by chance I decided to let Morrigan get ice spells and stumbled early on Cone of Cold - one of the best mage spells in the game.

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I have played RPG's for as long as I have played games. I have played NW, Icewind, Baldaurs, KOTOR etc, and to me the character skills/talents/spells etc in this game are very simplified in comparison.



Lots of the skills to me were useless by description, if u wanted to be an archer u pick the archer skills, want to be a dps mage pick the damage skills



My first play through I was an archer/ranger, I picked wanted to be a dual weapons at first so I started on that path but then changed it after only putting a skill point or two into it, so I wasn't screwed. Ranger thankfully is also easily attainable so I didn't wast points while looking for this class.



I got my companions fairly early on so they were low lvl, so I could lvl them up myself without the computer putting in points for me (the companions match your lvl when u meet them so the computer lvls them up itself to that point)



I used Shale as a dps/tank skill selection was easy for her

Ali was a tank, points were easy for him, all sword and board skills and warrior basic ie taunt

and then used Morrigan as mage dps, went all fire with drain life spells so she could keep herself alive



I would just switch between chars and pop pots if needed for healing.



I saved the elves my first play through so I had an unlimited supply of elfroot so I could make all the health potions I needed.



I also only played it on normal my first play time so I didn't need to be more specific in spell/skill selection, had some room to move.



all in all first time through for me was cake, im sure I got lucky in some situations, but damage was always high and consistant and I rarely died, only one who really died was Morrigan.




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My first playthrough was really bad! I went for a Dwarven Noble, but went for rogue as I thought I might go down the bard route. From a role playing perspective I realised it wasn't working for me- I ended up being a duelist, simply because my character really should have been a warrior.



Fights seemed so hard because... being stupid... I didn't actually set *any* tactics for the game. They were on auto. I literally just ran in to things and bashed them. Ridiculous.

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I jumped on my first ever character just a couple of nights ago to check an ending dialogue for a friend. My PC still had the Formari Tome in her backpack and Alistair, her constant companion, was in Medium Armour (I'm more familiar with the old DnD Fatigue system and those red numbers spelled doom to my character).

I was a bit embarassed and not a little amazed to wonder how I made it all the way through the game, only turning the difficulty down once for the Branka battle.

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Thane19 wrote...
To be honest, the hardest fight to me was the Broodmother. I have no idea how I'm going to kill her with a single mage in my party.


I wouldn't spoil it for you, unless you ask, but I've killed her four times now.
Once with Morrigan, once with Wynne and twice with neither of them in the party.

So you can do it with one mage, make take a few tries but you can.

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My first playthrough I mainly used a party of three mages including PC, and Leliana. Every mage had cone of cold, everyone had heal, and two had the full spirit healing line. Talk about spamming certain spells and having utterly standardized tactics for every battle. Leli scout ahead, draws enemies back to group, PC casts glyph of repulsion in door, Morrrigan casts cone of cold on stopped ones, rinse and repeat until all are dead.



Second time through getting a different viewpoint using 3 rogues and a dog and totally eschewing magic. (I have a third start with 3 mages only on nightmare.)

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tymay33 wrote...

After playing through multiple times, does anyone else feel like they did really bad on your first character now that you think back?

Like for me, being a mage I relied on AOE's way to much and i couldn't play past normal or i'd kill my whole party in 5 seconds (Storm of the Century). The high dragon and Flemyth took multiple attempts and to be completely honest i had to switch to easy to actually kill the archdemon.

But on my second playthrough as a warrior, I immediately switched to hard as normal seemed to easy. My party consisted of 1 caster, 1 ranged, and two melee. And now that i know more about the game i can easily micromanage alongside using tactics. Flemyth and the high dragon only took one try to kill and the archdemon about 3 but i kept it on hard and it wasnt to bad.

And because of this i am really tempted do delete my first character and replay him all over.

What about you how do you think you did your first time? (haha sounds naughty:happy:)


I've already deleted my first character. I made him all wrong, and he was funny looking, to boot! ;)

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Yeah - I realised my first character was all messed up by about halfway through the game. So I deleted her. And I completely messed up my companions builds.



I'm better at it now, but still got lots of room for improvement, I'd guess.

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My first character was a warrior. I thought I'd start simple, in case the difficulty curve would be too steep if I played as a mage or rogue. Ha.

Modifié par Colenda, 12 janvier 2010 - 10:28 .


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I did really BAD on the my first playthrough. I played on easy and had trouble defeating the final boss. On my second playthrough I looked at advise on how to build characters. I started on normal but switched to Nightmare Plus (A mod that makes nightmare much harder) after 1/3 of the game. While there were some challenging fights, most of the game was easier than my first playthrough. I also didn't Pause on my second time through and no offensive spells.



So yes there is a HUGE HUGE difference between my 1st and 2nd playthrough.

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I was pretty inexperienced my first time through, yeah.



And warrior is not a simple class :P I love it. First RPG to make a meaty warrior class.

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First was a rogue who, I think, I butchered. Played on easiest setting mainly because I've never liked this sort of combat gameplay (hate the combat in most other Bioware games too :x), so I'm mainly playing for the story. Eventually when I finally started using tactics, to a limited degree, I ended up leaving my PC to her own devices and taking control of Morrigan myself. Magic is so much fun hehe. Made both a mage, who just dinged 7 and got Arcane Warrior, aswell as a human warrior now. Also put the difficulty on normal, yay.



I'm improving though at least, maybe by time I finish the game for the second time I'll consider myself relatively good at it. <.<;

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My actual first character was Neria, Elf Mage (elementalist). However, I found out that I could gain the title Queen by playing a Human Noble, so I changed characters, and the first complete play-thru was Elyndra Cousland, Sword & Shield Noblewoman.



Killed Connor, unwilling to risk the village further attacks (And I didn't know that killing off the Undead would totally spare the village further). You can bet Alistair wasn't too happy, but by being properly appologetic, I still managed a 7-point boost at the end.



Didn't do too many side-quests. but further play-thrus I did more. But 1 thing I will not do: Enable the Reaver specialization. I will NOT destroy a holy relic for an evil power (It was too easy to do the Blood Mage one, but IMO it's too long to do for the Reaver, plus Korgrim is too easily riled up).



She DID become queen, however. Only wishes that she could have persuaded Morrigan to share a part of that ritual. The childbirth part.