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[KennyAshes]

I honestly don't know what to think about it.
Its played out pretty good but in the first mission of ME2 after you died (the Cerberus spacestation for project Lazarus) all the mechs go berzerk and kill everyone.
Its hard to believe that they would keep a clone for 'spare-parts' on another spacestation. But on the spacestation for project lazarus would noone be left to keep the clone alive during its coma. And right after waking up he/she would have had to fight through an army of mechs that made Jacob - Miranda - Shepard run.
Also Miranda would have known about the clone.

Unless offcourse they (Cerberus) had the clone for cases where Shepard would have needed another emergency 'rebuild' after the first 'rebuild'.

[Obadiah]

As others have said, it could have been WAY more interesting and thought provoking if the dev's hadn't played it mostly for laughs. As it is, it was merely entertaining, and done so we could have more interaction with the crew.

[Enhanced]

Many people are saying that it's cliché. What sci-fi isn't at this point? What matters is that it's new for ME. The Clone is this first antagonist in the trilogy that only wants to kill Shepard for personal reasons and not because not Shepard is ruining the plans to assist the Reapers in some way, take control of a space station, eliminate a group of civilians, etc.

Modifié par Enhanced, 08 mars 2013 - 04:17 .

[garrusfan1]

I thought it was kinda cheesy at first but I ended up liking it. also this dlc was more of a fun dlc then serious. alsoeveryone that wanted an epic boss fight got it cause fighting him on insanity was a pain

[CDR David Shepard]

Enhanced wrote...

Many people are saying that it's cliché. What sci-fi isn't at this point?

Yeah, saying anything is cliche at this point is absurd.

I don't like the clone idea because I simply do not like it. I don't like it in any media or franchise...be it comics or the mass effect universe.

I just do not like there ever being more than one of the main character...whether the clone is evil or not.

There should always only be one.


As far as the DLC...the other content is too good to pass up even with the clone.

Modifié par CDR David Shepard, 08 mars 2013 - 04:33 .

[Legendary Chop Chop]

I don't typically like clones in stuff, but the Mass Effect universe probably needed that trope in it to fit the whole sci-fi platitude that it hits.

I was a little skeptical at first, but it was done damned well. I thought it was pretty cool if you're a pure paragon as the pure renegade is a good collision.

Modifié par Legendary Chop Chop, 08 mars 2013 - 04:24 .

[CronoDragoon]

The clone works for me because it's obvious from the start that his purpose is to meditate on what makes the real Shepard so special. Accordingly I find it to be the perfect final villain, even though he's less a character and more a means to highlight aspects of the real Shepard.

[dsl08002]

just cliche

Could have come up with something better

[Wayning_Star]

Enhanced wrote...

Many people are saying that it's cliché. What sci-fi isn't at this point? What matters is that it's new for ME. The Clone is this first antagonist in the trilogy that only wants to kill Shepard for personal reasons and not because not Shepard is ruining the plans to assist the Reapers in some way, take control of a space station, eliminate a group of civilians, etc.

the story kind of made it that the clone was stupid and relies on that girly girl for inspiration. She says stuff and cloneshep responds in kind..did for me anyways..

I hated the clonewar thingy... off the wall for me.. as in "too"..didn't like the satirical association of it..rhetorical side step from the "meaning of things".. designed to placate, not inspirate.

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[Aurora313]

Ingu wrote...

 I thought it gave some interesting role-playing options. I had headcanoned my Shep a dead identical twin, so the sudden appearence (and death) of an identical clone was a shock and also another heartbreak. Shepherd just can't catch a break.

My Shepard has a fraternal twin (See signature for the fic in-progress). By that point, she actively wanted to save the clone and very nearly did. They manage to pull him aboard, only for Brooks to cap him. Then both Shepards draw guns and resale her as a new kind of swish cheese.

[Nerevar-as]

Is it explained how is the clone aware? I mean, if it was for spare parts how why was it allowed to mature mentally? A fast grown asleep clone should have a baby´s mind.

[LilyasAvalon]

Totally cliche but always a favourite.

Nerevar-as wrote...

Is it explained how is the clone
aware? I mean, if it was for spare parts how why was it allowed to
mature mentally? A fast grown asleep clone should have a baby´s
mind.

The clone said something among the lines of "It's amazing what neural implants can do", so I'm guessing this. Grunt is an example of this if I remember right.

Shepard also proposes another theory in the Cerberus base when bringing up the theory they are (also) a clone "Maybe I'm just a clone with a high tech VI that thinks it's Commander Shepard".

Modifié par LilyasAvalon, 11 mars 2013 - 01:31 .

[AkodoRyu]

Nerevar-as wrote...

Is it explained how is the clone aware? I mean, if it was for spare parts how why was it allowed to mature mentally? A fast grown asleep clone should have a baby´s mind.

Neuro implants of some sort, she was probably educated as much as Maya needed her to know.

Considering how easily she was stripped of her composure during the last fight (if you didn't listened of all Clone's lines, Shepard mocks her to the point of being called a b word), I'd say she's at the level of teenage rebel. Maybe a bit further.

Modifié par AkodoRyu, 11 mars 2013 - 01:35 .

[Nerevar-as]

Thanks for the answers.

Whatever happened to the company who wrote Sun-Li? That was a proper villain...

[Helios969]

Initial reaction was "you've got to be kidding." But it worked well as I play a predominantly paragon Shep. Touches on the longstanding debate of "Nature vs. Nurture." Loved the "what makes you special" line when your companions pull you back up but Brooks leaves taintedShep "hanging."

Really ME from start to finish has drawn from every major piece of scify over the past 50 years...conceptually it is not remotely original...so the clone cliche is just the cherry on the top. ME originality has always been about the characters we interact with...and we got the best companion interaction and feast of humor than anywhere else in the series.

Modifié par Helios969, 11 mars 2013 - 02:01 .