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Well good luck in your future endeavors OP!

Word of advice though....NEVER take a property you have no creative control over TOO seriously :) More often than not it'll just lead to let down. Enjoy the property sure, be a fan of it, of course! But never take it too seriously to the point where if something changes in your perspective to no longer be the ideal, it ruins it for you.

This holds true for TV/Games/Movies/Comics/Books etc.

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Legion of 1337 wrote...

Every time I see one of these threads I copy and paste this from a thread I made months ago. Because it still applies.

To quote myself:
"There is, friend, a very big reason why so many people are still pissed about the ending. There is a reason why they don't get over it, why they constantly come on here and complain. It's not about being a hater, it's not about trolling, and it's not about being part of some great righteous cause - the reason you feel like that is in fact due to Bioware's writing talents.

What, you say? Writing talents? The guys who wrote this ****ty ending? Well, first off, the two guys who wrote that little diddy didn't write much else, that was done by others. And it was those others that make you so passionate to criticize the ending constantly and demand a better one.

People like Mass Effect for one main reason: the character interaction, not the plot. If everyone came for the plot, ME2 would not be seen as a shining jewel of games. Mass Effect stands among a very select few games (along with The Walking Dead and Journey, personally) that have made players emotionally attached to and invested in the characters, something that most games don't do. Mass Effect is special for that reason - it's why you love it so.

Now, I can understand disliking the ending from a critical perspective for all its thematic leaps, plot holes and contrivances, and that's all fine. But people have a lingering, passionate hatred for this ending, and that is not simply the result of a badly written ending. We've all seen movies and read books that were ****, we lamented that they wrecked a perfectly good series or premise, but we get over it because it's just a story. But Mass Effect is different because of the character focus. At the end, the characters (including Shepard himself) are shoved off to the side so as to focus entirely on the plot and explain what is happening. Coupled with bad writing, the ending simply does not give us our emotional closure and connection to the characters we love so much, so we leave the ending not only thinking that the ending itself was bad, but also that we are emotionally unfulfilled because we no endgame character interaction to bring everything full circle and provide closure. We are left feeling empty - and this is why we continue to hate it.

If you forget your love of the characters and simply look at the ending, you should realize that, yeah, it's just another stupid Gainax Sci Fi ending. Nothing new there. Tons of them. Just a **** up by a couple of idiots who thought this would be cool. You'll laugh at it - because it's dumb.

So instead of continuing to rave on about the ending, just look at it for what it is ( a classic big dumb sci fi ending) and praise Mass Effect for what makes it so good - the characters we all know and love. Surely all that good stuff that makes up the remainder of the game and indeed the series should not be permanently tainted by a dumb ending - it's dumb, you should laugh at it, not rage.

Be grateful that it went that long before something retarded came up. Most sci fi doesn't last halfway."

TLDR: Laugh instead of rage.


Well said, friend. Well said.

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Cainne Chapel wrote...

Well good luck in your future endeavors OP!

Word of advice though....NEVER take a property you have no creative control over TOO seriously :) More often than not it'll just lead to let down. Enjoy the property sure, be a fan of it, of course! But never take it too seriously to the point where if something changes in your perspective to no longer be the ideal, it ruins it for you.

This holds true for TV/Games/Movies/Comics/Books etc.


Its not my fault for being deeply invested in the characters and their future.

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I'm deeply invested in the characters as well (Hell love 99.9% of the characters in the series to the point where i know a lot of dialogue by heart).

I'm just saying its good never to get TOO invested into something you have no control over, especially if you're prone to anger and/or sadness when something doesn't go your way or turn out how you wanted it too.

Hell i've put more hours into this series than anyone I know, I've completed all 3 games near 100 times (lost count long...long ago) and i was, yes, a bit dissapointed by the ending admittedly, but i've long since gotten over my initial dissapoint and still enjoy all 3 games to this day.

and hell, i even loved the citadel DLC quite a bit.

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Greylycantrope wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Jadebaby wrote...

Wait, you're moving "on" to games like Baldur's Gate? That seems like a step backwards to me. That BioWare is gone friend, you have to accept that.

Personally, I'm still undecided about this dlc, i've actually thought about getting it... I soon might. But yes, the ending sucks and will always suck. Thank god Mr. Fob could do what BioWare couldn't.



It's hilarious so far, it's like watching a chessy 90's action movie written by the Mass Effect team.

It has Stargate Sg-1 written all over it, I love that show.

Jade I got the DLC and enjoyed the hell out of it, it was silly and ridiculous and made me laugh my ass off. It let me experiance a bit of the universe I've been fighting for. My renegade femshep finally got to slap Jacob for two timing her too.


What? I have to see this.

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Can I have your stuff?

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Goodbye! Didn't read your rant, but still, bye!

Modifié par SomeKindaEnigma, 06 mars 2013 - 08:20 .


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Auld Wulf wrote...

And the general misanthropy of BSN dropped one notch that day.

Yay, can't wait to see how this place looks like when only positive and nice folks like yourself are left! Image IPB

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Kastrenzo wrote...

Seriously the game's ending is little different from the Batman movie, and you don't hear anyone complaining their lungs out about that


Batman had to choose between genocide, slavery and genetic rape or everyone died?

Modifié par Bill Casey, 06 mars 2013 - 08:45 .


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If I haven't already said good riddance, then good riddance! Bye! I do wonder about something, though - do all you people hire the same ghostwriter to create these ridiculous and melodramatic exit threads? Actually, don't answer that - just leave, kkthxbye!

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thepringle wrote...

Legion of 1337 wrote...

Every time I see one of these threads I copy and paste this from a thread I made months ago. Because it still applies.

To quote myself:
"There is, friend, a very big reason why so many people are still pissed about the ending. There is a reason why they don't get over it, why they constantly come on here and complain. It's not about being a hater, it's not about trolling, and it's not about being part of some great righteous cause - the reason you feel like that is in fact due to Bioware's writing talents.

What, you say? Writing talents? The guys who wrote this ****ty ending? Well, first off, the two guys who wrote that little diddy didn't write much else, that was done by others. And it was those others that make you so passionate to criticize the ending constantly and demand a better one.

People like Mass Effect for one main reason: the character interaction, not the plot. If everyone came for the plot, ME2 would not be seen as a shining jewel of games. Mass Effect stands among a very select few games (along with The Walking Dead and Journey, personally) that have made players emotionally attached to and invested in the characters, something that most games don't do. Mass Effect is special for that reason - it's why you love it so.

Now, I can understand disliking the ending from a critical perspective for all its thematic leaps, plot holes and contrivances, and that's all fine. But people have a lingering, passionate hatred for this ending, and that is not simply the result of a badly written ending. We've all seen movies and read books that were ****, we lamented that they wrecked a perfectly good series or premise, but we get over it because it's just a story. But Mass Effect is different because of the character focus. At the end, the characters (including Shepard himself) are shoved off to the side so as to focus entirely on the plot and explain what is happening. Coupled with bad writing, the ending simply does not give us our emotional closure and connection to the characters we love so much, so we leave the ending not only thinking that the ending itself was bad, but also that we are emotionally unfulfilled because we no endgame character interaction to bring everything full circle and provide closure. We are left feeling empty - and this is why we continue to hate it.

If you forget your love of the characters and simply look at the ending, you should realize that, yeah, it's just another stupid Gainax Sci Fi ending. Nothing new there. Tons of them. Just a **** up by a couple of idiots who thought this would be cool. You'll laugh at it - because it's dumb.

So instead of continuing to rave on about the ending, just look at it for what it is ( a classic big dumb sci fi ending) and praise Mass Effect for what makes it so good - the characters we all know and love. Surely all that good stuff that makes up the remainder of the game and indeed the series should not be permanently tainted by a dumb ending - it's dumb, you should laugh at it, not rage.

Be grateful that it went that long before something retarded came up. Most sci fi doesn't last halfway."

TLDR: Laugh instead of rage.


Well said, friend. Well said.


Ohhh, I like this!  It's not so polarizing.

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He'll be back on here tomorrow. No doubt.

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N7Gold wrote...

Cainne Chapel wrote...

Well good luck in your future endeavors OP!

Word of advice though....NEVER take a property you have no creative control over TOO seriously :) More often than not it'll just lead to let down. Enjoy the property sure, be a fan of it, of course! But never take it too seriously to the point where if something changes in your perspective to no longer be the ideal, it ruins it for you.

This holds true for TV/Games/Movies/Comics/Books etc.


Its not my fault for being deeply invested in the characters and their future.


When you off?

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Goodbye.

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N7Gold wrote...

Cainne Chapel wrote...

Well good luck in your future endeavors OP!

Word of advice though....NEVER take a property you have no creative control over TOO seriously :) More often than not it'll just lead to let down. Enjoy the property sure, be a fan of it, of course! But never take it too seriously to the point where if something changes in your perspective to no longer be the ideal, it ruins it for you.

This holds true for TV/Games/Movies/Comics/Books etc.


Its not my fault for being deeply invested in the characters and their future.


Wonderful advice, Cainne Chapel!

And OP, some of us were just as invested. But we had control over ourselves. And if we didn't like something, we moved on. It has nothing to do with how invested you are and how much of a slave to emotion one is.

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So long, and thanks for all the scale itch.

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Whatever...

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Severyx wrote...

Don't let the door hit you on the way out. I'm going to go stand over there with the silent majority.


I think you got that backwards. Most people that hate the game and or ending to ME3 are no longer here making the haters(at least most of us) the "silent majority"!

Most of the fans that Ive seen long before ME3(like 98%of them) are long gone after the EC was released.

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yeah, so you guys hate the ending and do nothing about it? well, i actually kind of wish i had been doing something before the extended cut. i don't want to see this is the way it ended in 10 years.

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I kid. I hope you stay.




:devil:

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N7Gold wrote...

Cainne Chapel wrote...

Well good luck in your future endeavors OP!

Word of advice though....NEVER take a property you have no creative control over TOO seriously :) More often than not it'll just lead to let down. Enjoy the property sure, be a fan of it, of course! But never take it too seriously to the point where if something changes in your perspective to no longer be the ideal, it ruins it for you.

This holds true for TV/Games/Movies/Comics/Books etc.


Its not my fault for being deeply invested in the characters and their future.


op, its ok. i am invested too, and i just hold out hope that this kind of change could happen if not now, but in a few years. if we get a mass effect: enhanced ending addition, i hope we could both be satisfied.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

Image IPB


I kid. I hope you stay.




:devil:


should have known evil chris would show up to the party. kind of wish the "never trust priestly" phrase could have been true. you know, i would actually be satisfied with just some post ending explanations. i really don't need a new ending, but it wouldn't hurt.

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EntropicAngel wrote...

N7Gold wrote...

Cainne Chapel wrote...

Well good luck in your future endeavors OP!

Word of advice though....NEVER take a property you have no creative control over TOO seriously :) More often than not it'll just lead to let down. Enjoy the property sure, be a fan of it, of course! But never take it too seriously to the point where if something changes in your perspective to no longer be the ideal, it ruins it for you.

This holds true for TV/Games/Movies/Comics/Books etc.


Its not my fault for being deeply invested in the characters and their future.


Wonderful advice, Cainne Chapel!

And OP, some of us were just as invested. But we had control over ourselves. And if we didn't like something, we moved on. It has nothing to do with how invested you are and how much of a slave to emotion one is.


I'm trying to move on, but its hard to knowing that no matter what I did, no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't secure the freedom of every sentient being in the ME series, allowing them to create thier own destiny without some giant machine hybrids and a deluded shackled AI dictating the course of evolution, being afraid of what might happen out of their control.

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abch4 wrote...

N7Gold wrote...

Cainne Chapel wrote...

Well good luck in your future endeavors OP!

Word of advice though....NEVER take a property you have no creative control over TOO seriously :) More often than not it'll just lead to let down. Enjoy the property sure, be a fan of it, of course! But never take it too seriously to the point where if something changes in your perspective to no longer be the ideal, it ruins it for you.

This holds true for TV/Games/Movies/Comics/Books etc.


Its not my fault for being deeply invested in the characters and their future.


When you off?


I'll still be around today, but starting tomorrow, you won't see me here or on multiplayer anymore.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

Image IPB


I kid. I hope you stay.




:devil:


Why would I? For me, the fight is over. Don't get me wrong though, I LOVED the Citadel DLC. In my opinion, it's better than Lair of the Shadow Broker, but I'm done with Mass Effect and anything related to it, I'm sorry.

I feel like the clone Shepard right now. Why would I take your hand when there's nothing for me to live for?

Modifié par N7Gold, 06 mars 2013 - 10:00 .