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[Abreu Road]

 I would not mind control if Shepard did not became a god. Just took Reapers away or destroy each other in deep space and leave the galaxy alone and dying in the process. I don't mind.

But to make her a god? No. This deeply offends me. As do synthesis, even with EDI emotional monologue on this ending.

Destroy+headcannon is the only option for me. Using EDI and the Geth to force players to sacrifice themselves trough godhood or jesus-like sacrifice or just to have a "bad" and selfish ending was very low.

Modifié par Abreu Road, 06 mars 2013 - 07:46 .

[Urdnot Amenark]

D.Shepard wrote...

FlyinElk212 wrote...

Because there's no way in hell I'm changing the galaxy . Over my dead body after seeing this DLC.

I've totally fallen in love with my little family I've created. The squadmates of past and future have combine to create some of the tightest friend units I have ever seen. Not only do they prove that this galaxy is worth saving as it is, but the comradery and cooperation of different races proves that there IS hope for this version of the galaxy's future, with little to no Reaper influence along the way.

Destroy's no option. After Citadel DLC, EDI's proven synthetics deserve better.
Synthesis's no option. After Citadel DLC, I can't alter galactic status quo when this one can prove to be civil and stable.
And don't even get me started on Refuse.

So I used to be an avid Destroy fan. But after seeing this DLC, I don't think I'll ever choose anything other than Control. If sacrificing my life means I'll be able to keep this version of the galaxy in tact, then my sacrifice will be worth it. If not for the galaxy, then for my little family I've created.

I was under the impression Control ending does not kill Shepard but turns it into,  let's call it, a new entity....

Technically, that is what happens, since Shep's conscious is pretty much uploaded directly into the Reaper's collective.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

FlyinElk212 wrote...

Because there's no way in hell I'm changing the galaxy . Over my dead body after seeing this DLC.

I've totally fallen in love with my little family I've created. The squadmates of past and future have combine to create some of the tightest friend units I have ever seen. Not only do they prove that this galaxy is worth saving as it is, but the comradery and cooperation of different races proves that there IS hope for this version of the galaxy's future, with little to no Reaper influence along the way.

Destroy's no option. After Citadel DLC, EDI's proven synthetics deserve better.
Synthesis's no option. After Citadel DLC, I can't alter galactic status quo when this one can prove to be civil and stable.
And don't even get me started on Refuse.

So I used to be an avid Destroy fan. But after seeing this DLC, I don't think I'll ever choose anything other than Control. If sacrificing my life means I'll be able to keep this version of the galaxy in tact, then my sacrifice will be worth it. If not for the galaxy, then for my little family I've created.

No. No. No....... Play it post Destroy ending. They're all alive. EDI is alive. You don't sacrifice her that way. She's there. It's the series finale. HEAD CANON. HEAD CANON.

If you're on a PC use MEHEM. You'll be good. <3

[Persona RED]

Step One) Recover Shepard Clone's Body

Step Two) Toss him into the beam to create Synthesis ending.

[Blooddrunk1004]

FlyinElk212 wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Hm.  Perhaps I'll just leave that little bit of sexual tension unresolved.

Speaking of which, I REALLY wish there was a way to get everyone at this party just, INSANELY hammered. Then the next morning, they show the same clip of different couples waking up next to each other, then going, "OH SH**!!"

Shep & Javik
Cortez & Traynor
Garrus & Zaeed
Samara & a huge dogpile of James, Kaidan, Joker, Jacob, and Kasumi
Grunt & Eezo, Jack's Varren
Tali & the corpse of Kal Reegar

That would be pure gold 

[FlyinElk212]

Persona RED wrote...

Step One) Recover Shepard Clone's Body

Step Two) Toss him into the beam to create Synthesis ending.

Step 1) Recover Shepard Clone

Step 2) Have Clone pull Control handles. Reapers become gigantic dead idiot bugs

[Knight of Dane]

I can live with the sacrifice of EDI and the Geth to escape the two wrong endings.

[CronoDragoon]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

 I've actually been leaning more and more towards Control as the best ending as well though not just because of this DLC.  And the principle reason for it was that I'm about 95% sure the geth and EDI will continue to exist peacefully with organics and they will pave the way for any AI that follows them.  If they all die then the companionship has to be rebuilt from scratch with new AIs and it won't be the same because those AIs won't have helped defeat Reapers. The absolute number one thing I want to do is prove that Catalyst ****** wrong and Control seems increasingly like the best way to do that.  It obviously wants me to pick Synthesis but I think it anticipates Destroy will be a likely "kill the threat!" organic response.  Control actually seems to be the choice the farthest afield of what the Catalyst wants.  

Good points, but I disagree that Control is farther afield of the Catalyst's wishes than Destroy, if only because the Catalyst also preserves synthetic life in Reaper form via his words, and with Destroy the culture and minds of the geth are lost.

[Legbiter]

Pinocchio and the toasters still get it in my Shepverse.

[CronoDragoon]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I don't actually think the Catalyst values synthetic life over organic life.  If anything it seems the other way around as its express purpose is to preserve organic life.   If it thought it could do that by destroying all synthetics, I think it would.  

What I'm saying is that it while it is attempting to stop synthetics from destroying organics, it values the preservation of synthetic AND organic life over just the preservation of organic life. This combined with the ability of the Shepard-Catalyst to assure that the grand synthetic/organic war never happens, as opposed to the vast uncertainty of the absolute autonomy Destroy represents, means that the Catalyst would prefer Control to Destroy.

Mind you I'm not trying to put down Control with this analysis. Your ending choice shouldn't factor in the degree of compatibility it has with the Catalyst's wishes. Choose what you think is best regardless of what it thinks.

Modifié par CronoDragoon, 06 mars 2013 - 08:59 .

[G Kevin]

I am going with Destroy even more so now.

To me, the entire Citadel DLC happened after destroy. EDI included.

[Bill Casey]

Control is a disgustingly horrible ending...

[webhead921]

Control Shepard forces everyone to party hard 24/7

[CronoDragoon]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
Is there vast uncertainty in the autonomy of destroy?  The Catalyst seems quite convinced in the inevitability of organic life inventing synthetic life which will destroy it.

That's exactly what I mean. There's no safety net preventing synthetics from destroying organics (which the Catalyst believes to be inevitable without a "solution") and hence Destroy is his least favorite.

[Subject M]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...
What I'm saying is that it while it is attempting to stop synthetics from destroying organics, it values the preservation of synthetic AND organic life over just the preservation of organic life. This combined with the ability of the Shepard-Catalyst to assure that the grand synthetic/organic war never happens, as opposed to the vast uncertainty of the absolute autonomy Destroy represents, means that the Catalyst would prefer Control to Destroy.

Is there vast uncertainty in the autonomy of destroy?  The Catalyst seems quite convinced in the inevitability of organic life inventing synthetic life which will destroy it.  It seems to have been the theme of the galaxy before the Reapers (hence, why the Reapers were created) and in all the cycles that have happened since Reaper creation. Even if there really is true autonomy in destroy, I don't think the Catalyst would perceive it that way.  But what has never happened before to my knowledge is a cycle or time in which organics and synthetics have said "we will live together peacefully while remaining unique."   

Yes, it is quite reasonable (to at least speculate) that this is the first time in history where a diverse force of both organics and synthetics have joined forces as allies against the greater threat of the Reapers. If this is so, i is not only a development that is new to the catalyst, but also, if it is the path to future co-existence, a path that the reapers themselves helped to create. Through their interference with the "experiment" that is life, life has adapted to react against those experimenting with their fate. perhaps this what was required to break the cycle of extinction-wars between organics and synthetics.

Modifié par Subject M, 06 mars 2013 - 09:13 .

[Subject M]

CronoDragoon wrote...

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
Is there vast uncertainty in the autonomy of destroy?  The Catalyst seems quite convinced in the inevitability of organic life inventing synthetic life which will destroy it.

That's exactly what I mean. There's no safety net preventing synthetics from destroying organics (which the Catalyst believes to be inevitable without a "solution") and hence Destroy is his least favorite.

On this I agree. "Destroy" does not fix anything from the POV of the catalyst. It exchanges the solution of the catalyst with no solution at all besides "we will manage somehow"

[CronoDragoon]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I concede this point and will just reword my inclination to pick Control by saying Control is the option I think is most likely to prove the Catalyst wrong. 

Fair enough, and I edited an earlier post to make sure no one believed I was putting Control down by suggesting the Catalyst isn't totally against it.

[Ieldra]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
Is there vast uncertainty in the autonomy of destroy?  The Catalyst seems quite convinced in the inevitability of organic life inventing synthetic life which will destroy it.

That's exactly what I mean. There's no safety net preventing synthetics from destroying organics (which the Catalyst believes to be inevitable without a "solution") and hence Destroy is his least favorite.

I concede this point and will just reword my inclination to pick Control by saying Control is the option I think is most likely to prove the Catalyst wrong.

It is not the point of the ending choice to prove the Catalyst wrong. It is the point to create a good future for the galaxy.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

 I've actually been leaning more and more towards Control as the best ending as well though not just because of this DLC.  And the principle reason for it was that I'm about 95% sure the geth and EDI will continue to exist peacefully with organics and they will pave the way for any AI that follows them.  If they all die then the companionship has to be rebuilt from scratch with new AIs and it won't be the same because those AIs won't have helped defeat Reapers. The absolute number one thing I want to do is prove that Catalyst ****** wrong and Control seems increasingly like the best way to do that.  It obviously wants me to pick Synthesis but I think it anticipates Destroy will be a likely "kill the threat!" organic response.  Control actually seems to be the choice the farthest afield of what the Catalyst wants.  

I like this post.

I like to think that In destroy the catalyst dies shaking his head. In synthesis he dies believing himself to be vindicated. But in control he gets his toys ripped from him and he gets oblitirated from existence while he watches Shepard sacrificing himself for the sake of his supposedly inevitable enemies.