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Dear BW Team: can we please get an official word on the Talon Key Binding Issue?


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#176
unclemonster

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BACON4BREAKFAST wrote...

unclemonster wrote...

BACON4BREAKFAST wrote...

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you mean adjusting like PS3 users have to where Vorcha flamer is on the trigger and then the geth trooper flamer  flamer is on the triangle button?
again l2adjust it is not too hard
my brain can handle more than 1 setting

what do you do if you play another game and the keys aren't able to be mapped the same as ME3?
look at playing the Talon like it is a different game with different keys
l2adapt!


I have 600 hours on console, It's really not hard as I said. Also if you can claw like a pro (see 5) it's super duper easy.

PC games are supposed to have remappable controls we get to "Have it Our Way". Any AAA title (and most indies) have remappable controls (even back to the 90's). Some people use ESDF for movement and not WASD, some people use Ergonomic or DVORAK keyboards that are laid out differently. Some people use fancy shmancy mice and some use walmart-type.

Also you called us whiny girls yet you complain about not being able to remap console controls:huh:


Uh... where did I call you "whiny girls" please show me, as this is not true
I stated that we never had customizable control options (button mapping would have been very nice, but instead it was a PC exclusive option. I wasn't whining about it, just stating facts of pc perks)
You DO have customizable options
you DO still have the option of playing the Talon (using default controls)
you just have to be able to adapt to handle the change for 1 kit...it doesn't sound like much of a problem to me
it definitely isn't gamebreaking enough to require an patch when the kit works with the default control scheme
I'll say it ONE more time, PS3 Collector freeze is a MUCH WORSE problem that won't be fixed and I have accepted this (even if it kills my machine). IMO, theTalon issue is very minor in comparison. That is my point.


I mixed you up with another person, you still did say whining though :D

You said "PS3 users cannot map any buttons" so it obviously is an issue for you.

The issue of keybindings makes the character unplayable for most, If you had a character that moved all the buttons around randomly I would asume there would be a thread wanting it fixed.

Again we are talking about the keybindings not everything wrong with your PS3. If you want to bring up your collector issue, then I will bring up Orgin.

Also on an unrelated note, does anyone know what causes the inability to use Thermal clip packs? I just played a game with him and could not use any.


while we cannot map buttons, we CAN change to a left hand control scheme
the Talon breaks this, so it IS broken for consoles as well

#177
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Eric Fagnan wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

High Lord Fagnan has addressed the powers of the Talon, namely that changes are coming. Can he or some other developer please comment on whether or not solutions to the key binding issue on the Talon are actively being sought? Thank you.


We've looked into the key binding issue and we won't be able to fix it without a patch. Unfortunately, we don't have another patch planned at this time.


Ouch, the key binding issue was driving me nuts, I happened to try a different keyset configuration when it was my first time using the Talon. (Terrible coincidence) 

I thoroughly appreciate the free content you guys have given us so far and it has definitely prolonged the shelf life of me3. I just think that ending the support for the game with a final patch might be a better last huurah than leaving whilst the last dlc has caused more issues.

Resources or lack their of without a reasonable rate of return is understandable. I mean what are ya gona do twist the arm of the people in accounting? :P

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No patch planned??? This truly upsets me to no end. It looks like MP will forever be broken :(.

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Eric can i ask you, this is really over for you devs working on multiplayer with patchs, balances or new maps-kits etc; or you got still plans for multiplayer and running this longer?

I would love you guys would keep here with us bringing more stuff maps etc, tell your bosses i said so lol we want you guys to stay

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social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/16166516/1
How to fix keybindings for PC
+1 master race


Still testing the thermal clip bug so watch out for that.
So far my best guess is that If you take both arrow powers you cannot take rank 2 in passives. If you only take one arrow power you can take everything fine.

Modifié par BACON4BREAKFAST, 07 mars 2013 - 08:37 .


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unclemonster wrote...

ClockworkSpectre wrote...

Eric Fagnan wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

High Lord Fagnan has addressed the powers of the Talon, namely that changes are coming. Can he or some other developer please comment on whether or not solutions to the key binding issue on the Talon are actively being sought? Thank you.


We've looked into the key binding issue and we won't be able to fix it without a patch. Unfortunately, we don't have another patch planned at this time.


That is disapointing considering how much is still wrong with the game. 

But, considering this is a PC only issue why can't it be fixed without a full patch.  Couldn't you just push out a fix over origin and be done with it?


It is NOT pc only
console players using left handed control scheme are also affected by this, so it wouldn't be fair to fix one without fixing them all


It is unlikely there will be another patch. It costs money to patch things through PS3 or xbox while they could do it for free on Origin. However they only do patches for everything to keep it "fair".
Thankfully we can solve our own problems, except I still don't know what causes the thermal clip bug.

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BACON4BREAKFAST wrote...

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/16166516/1
How to fix keybindings for PC
+1 master race


Still testing the thermal clip bug so watch out for that.
So far my best guess is that If you take both arrow powers you cannot take rank 2 in passives. If you only take one arrow power you can take everything fine.


HAH, awesome I totally missed that thread.  Probably due to my limited interest in the Talon Merc. 

On a side note it is beyond irritating about the keeping things "fair" with this game being on 3 platforms, and the charges incurred just to put out a patch.  It is just another reason to dislike consoles for holding games back.

Modifié par ClockworkSpectre, 07 mars 2013 - 09:02 .


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Wow just...wow honesty meets ineptitude- do you have any idea the extent eric that you and the bioware team constantly light the fuse that blows up in your face? Honestly, i do not endorse abuse or attacks but how can you expect pple to discipline their anger to you if you do NOT meet them half way?

Honestly no more patches? is like saying it 'too damn hard to have reworked the ending' and you watch eric? the same theme is connected.

The source of people's anger is your oversight of major issues- major issues that so many care about.

Whether it about mplayer or splayer glitches people want the major ones fixed.

This is a dismal failure of the trust that you expect your fans to give to you loyally but what bioware clearly fail to understand over and over is that the loyalty you get from the fans is earned- not bought- not something your loyal fans give you automatically for so many stuff ups. And the TALON keybinding no thermal clip issue in matches is your final insult to your loyal fans.

There is NO JUSTIFICATION NO EXCUSE THAT ANY OF YOU AT BIOWARE CAN HIDE BEHIND WHY MAKE AVAILABLE THE TALON MERC IF YOU DO NOT FIX IT? SURE THERE ARE OTHER KITS BUT THE IDEA OF RELEASING 6 KITS AND NOT 5 IS SO PPLE CAN FREELY CHOOSE FROM ALL 6. inc the talon a lot of love for the talon merc. and you disregard it blatantly, recklessly why?

yes you done some great balance changes esp recently but if you want to stamp out the majority howls of discontent with what bioware does be consistent for our benefit and yours. Free stuff is cool but many have seen since mplayer as nothing more than a cheap way to really bribe us into accepting the numerous shortcomings. The oversights and the Talon merc represents your folly now. It represents your failure to properly gage what really needed what tyhe priority concerns are for mplayer game fans.



TBH i never expected you to release another patch but the fact is the ENTIRE game needs a patch and none of us will accept your rational or anyones at bioware as you failed to explain to your loyal fans many of whom today may feel you hold in contempt for why you have this 'only 5 patch policy' it outrageous and i be expanding on this issue across the forum. it unacceptable for the years so many have followed you so loyally. for so long.

For the majority thankyou's the realityis the negatives are HUGE and pple will not forget anytime soon your failure to do the simple things and prioritize the thigns that need fixing.social.bioware.com/2222735/polls/44212/

Modifié par visionazzery, 14 mars 2013 - 03:30 .


#184
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This just sucks. I don't use default key bindings so basically this character will be forever unplayable for me. Very disappointing.